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#2114356 - 07/07/13 08:27 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: keystring]
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Thank you Keystring! Reading through your response and then going back to the piano, I'm inclined to agree. I'd never thought of it that way before! I have listened to lots of recordings on Spotify, but I'll admit that now they all seem in the realm of "Eek, that sounds intimidatingly fast."
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#2114417 - 07/08/13 12:03 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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I adore Grieg and I noticed this thread. What do you mean by recital?

I am learning: Opus 12, No 3. Vektersang (Watchman's song, after Macbeth)

I haven't yet read all 18 pages of this thread. Is there a timeframe or something to finish the pieces? Are you collecting mp3s?

Thanks!
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#2114473 - 07/08/13 02:43 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: AZ_Astro]
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Originally Posted By: AZ_Astro
I adore Grieg and I noticed this thread. What do you mean by recital?

I am learning: Opus 12, No 3. Vektersang (Watchman's song, after Macbeth)

I haven't yet read all 18 pages of this thread. Is there a timeframe or something to finish the pieces? Are you collecting mp3s?

Thanks!


There are different kinds of recitals here in the Adult Beginner Forum (ABF) --- we have quarterly recitals in Feb, May, August and November where members submit mp3 files and (if they want) videos. Open to all, play whatever takes your fancy. The recitals open for submissions on the 1st of the month and the recital is open for listening on the 15th. I believe the last one was the 30th!

The Grieg recital - like the Glass, Satie and Mendelssohn - are "themed recitals" where a body of works by a specific composer is selected, a list is posted, and folks sign up for a specific piece. It is still open to all but on a first come first served basis. There was a scramble at the start for the "easier" pieces, I can tell you!

If you go up a few posts you will see the latest version of the sign up sheet. I've already signed on for the Watchmans Song -sorry frown . We don't have duplicate performances of the same piece in the themed recitals.

The launch date for this recital should be 15 September, and if I have understood correctly, performances are to be video, not mp3.
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#2114481 - 07/08/13 03:11 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Ok, I see now. Thanks for the explanation.

Good luck with the Watchman's Song...

Regards,

Astro
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#2114486 - 07/08/13 03:22 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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I just went and watched one of the videos of the excellent videos from the Satie recital. Great job and a neat idea. I really enjoyed it.
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#2114914 - 07/08/13 10:39 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Originally Posted By: casinitaly
There was a scramble at the start for the "easier" pieces, I can tell you!


No wonder I got stuck … wink

Actually, quite a number of the harder ones got gobbled up quickly as well!
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#2114916 - 07/08/13 10:42 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: casinitaly]
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Originally Posted By: casinitaly

The launch date for this recital should be 15 September, and if I have understood correctly, performances are to be video, not mp3.

We can twin an mp3 with some kind of picture or slideshow on Youtube. I wouldn't be able to do video. I just bought a cable that hooks up the piano to the computer. Previously I used a microphone which produced a lot of distortion.

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#2114937 - 07/08/13 11:50 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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As Sam S pointed out, the only remaining "easy" piece is Op. 12 No. 8, Fedrelandssang (National song), and I think I might be able to do that. But I have a few questions.

So - we send video files to someone by Sept 15, is that right?

What format is recommended for the video file? .mov? .mp4?

I have Ivory 2 loaded on my pc and it will record from my midi keyboard. Is that satisfactory? Or do I need to set up a microphone to record off the acoustic?

The recordings that I saw on the Satie recital thread seemed to show only the hands. Is that what is desired?

Anything else I might need to know?

I'm pretty sure that the piece will take me the better part of a month to learn and partially master. I am still pretty new to the piano so this would be a challenge for me!

Suggestions solicited.


Edited by AZ_Astro (07/08/13 11:50 PM)
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#2114992 - 07/09/13 02:29 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Someone else can tell you about the video format, but as far as content goes, you can film just your hands (most folks like to keep their anonymity)or more if you want. Some make (as was suggested above) a slide show with other pictures.

It is up to you. I've just used windows movie maker in the past --- seems to me it is basically whatever you can load up to youtube.

Glad you found a piece you want to tackle!
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#2115000 - 07/09/13 02:52 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Windows Movie Maker, as well as iMovie if you're more of an Apple person, have options to publish on YouTube. You don't have to worry too much about formats. I don't know about the more advanced video editing software, but you can probably find out about video formats on YouTube.

Good luck, one month is quite short to learn and polish a new piece smile
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#2115006 - 07/09/13 03:45 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: AZ_Astro]
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Originally Posted By: AZ_Astro

So - we send video files to someone by Sept 15, is that right?



No, as already hinted, you need to set up a youtube account if you don't already have one then once you've prepared your video and uploaded it you youtube you need to send the link for that video to either Dipsy or Rostosky.

I believe youtube is very tolerant of video formats so it shouldn't matter what format you choose - or what format your camera chooses for you.

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#2115010 - 07/09/13 04:14 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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AZ, I only started a week ago so we're both a little behind! I intend to make full use of the time until September 15th if I can. :-)
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#2115013 - 07/09/13 04:26 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Welcome AZ Astro! You won't regret joining us - everyone who has taken part before has really enjoyed it.

Though we now have an impressively long list of taken pieces (54), we're not there yet. So here is the current list of the 12 pieces not yet taken (come on folks!). (Later, I'll try to relist the untaken ones alongside youtube clips so you can hear what they sound like if you need help deciding).

UNTAKEN:

OPUS 38
No 5 : Spring Dance
No 8 : Canon

OPUS 43
No 6 : To the spring

OPUS 47
No 7 : Elegy

OPUS 54
No 5 : Scherzo

OPUS 62
No 2 : Gratitude
No 3 : French Serenade
No 6 : Homeward

OPUS 65
No 4 : Salon

OPUS 68
No 2 :Grandmother's minuet
No 6 : Melancholy Waltz

OPUS 71
No 2 : Summer Evening


The list of allocated pieces is:

TAKEN
OPUS 12
No 1: Arietta (AimeeO)
No 2: Waltz (Saranoya)
No 3: Watchman's Song (Casinitaly)
No 4: Elve's Dance (LadyChen)
No 5: Popular Melody (AndyPlatt)
No 6: Norwegian Melody (Piano Dad)
No 7: Album Leaf (Saranoya)
No 8: National Song (AZ Astro)

OPUS 38
No 1: Berceuse (zrtf90)
No 2: Popular Melody (Wayne33yrs)
No 3: Melody (SwissMS)
No 4: Halling (Piano Dad)
No 6: Elegy (Recaredo)
No 7: Waltz (Dipsy)

OPUS 43
No 1: Butterfly (Beric)
No 2: Solitary Traveller (Wisebuff)
No 3: In My Native Country (Allard)
No 4: Little Bird (RagnHild)
No 5: Erotik (Peterws)

OPUS 47
No I: Valse Impromptu (Swissms)
No 2: Album Leaf (Ganddalf)
No 3: Melody (Dipsy)
No 4: Halling (Carlos88)
No 5: Melancholy (Stumbler)
No 6: Spring Dance (Peterws)

OPUS 54
No 1: Shepherd's Boy (Beric)
No 2: Norwegian March (zrtf90)
No 3: March of the Trolls (Rostosky)
No 4: Notturno (Dipsy)
No 6: Bell Ringing (Sinophilia)

OPUS 57
No 1: Vanished Days (dire tonic)
No 2: Gade (Sam S)
No 3: Illusion (PianoStudent88)
No 4: Secret (Beric)
No 5: She Dances (Dire Tonic)
No 6: Home Sickness (RagnHild)

OPUS 62
No 1: Sylph (niluh01)
No 4: Brooklet (niluh01)
No 5: Phantom (Pavel.K)

OPUS 65
No 1: From Early Years (Morodiene)
No 2: Peasant's Song (Wisebuff)
No 3: Melancholy (PianoStudent88)
No 5: Ballad (Rupak Bhattacharya)
No 6: Wedding Day at Troldhauen (Ganddalf)

OPUS 68
No 1: Sailor's Song (ElleC)
No 3: At Your Feet (dire tonic)
No 4: Evening in the mountains (Limefriday)
No 5: Cradle Song (Carey)

OPUS 71
No 1: Once upon a time (AnneH)
No 3: Puck (Farmgirl)
No 4: Peace of the Woods (Valencia)
No 5: Halling (Morodiene)
No 6: Gone (Keystring)
No 7: Remembrances (dynamobt)


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#2115020 - 07/09/13 04:56 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Dipsy]
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Originally Posted By: Dipsy
We So here is the current list of the 12 pieces not yet taken (come on folks!).
UNTAKEN:


OPUS 68
No 2 :Grandmother's minuet


well I would like to join and take this one.
I think it's challanging me but I hope I make it.
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#2115081 - 07/09/13 08:43 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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That's great yester - welcome to our group! I hope you enjoy preparing your piece. Many people prepare their piece privately, but if you want to share any ideas or problems you have about it on this thread, than that's great too!

In my view (and others will have a different views, I'm sure)if your piece wasn't challenging then what would be the point of taking part? I want to grow as a piano player, and choosing a piece I really like, having a deadline, and knowing that if I didn't do it it would let people down, I would not push myself and actually learn it. Of course we do the best we can, but we forgive ourselves and each other if its not perfect, I hope.

Here are the updated lists:

UNTAKEN (11):

OPUS 38
No 5 : Spring Dance
No 8 : Canon

OPUS 43
No 6 : To the spring

OPUS 47
No 7 : Elegy

OPUS 54
No 5 : Scherzo

OPUS 62
No 2 : Gratitude
No 3 : French Serenade
No 6 : Homeward

OPUS 65
No 4 : Salon

OPUS 68
No 6 : Melancholy Waltz

OPUS 71
No 2 : Summer Evening


The list of allocated pieces is:

TAKEN (55)
OPUS 12
No 1: Arietta (AimeeO)
No 2: Waltz (Saranoya)
No 3: Watchman's Song (Casinitaly)
No 4: Elve's Dance (LadyChen)
No 5: Popular Melody (AndyPlatt)
No 6: Norwegian Melody (Piano Dad)
No 7: Album Leaf (Saranoya)
No 8: National Song (AZ Astro)

OPUS 38
No 1: Berceuse (zrtf90)
No 2: Popular Melody (Wayne33yrs)
No 3: Melody (SwissMS)
No 4: Halling (Piano Dad)
No 6: Elegy (Recaredo)
No 7: Waltz (Dipsy)

OPUS 43
No 1: Butterfly (Beric)
No 2: Solitary Traveller (Wisebuff)
No 3: In My Native Country (Allard)
No 4: Little Bird (RagnHild)
No 5: Erotik (Peterws)

OPUS 47
No I: Valse Impromptu (Swissms)
No 2: Album Leaf (Ganddalf)
No 3: Melody (Dipsy)
No 4: Halling (Carlos88)
No 5: Melancholy (Stumbler)
No 6: Spring Dance (Peterws)

OPUS 54
No 1: Shepherd's Boy (Beric)
No 2: Norwegian March (zrtf90)
No 3: March of the Trolls (Rostosky)
No 4: Notturno (Dipsy)
No 6: Bell Ringing (Sinophilia)

OPUS 57
No 1: Vanished Days (dire tonic)
No 2: Gade (Sam S)
No 3: Illusion (PianoStudent88)
No 4: Secret (Beric)
No 5: She Dances (Dire Tonic)
No 6: Home Sickness (RagnHild)

OPUS 62
No 1: Sylph (niluh01)
No 4: Brooklet (niluh01)
No 5: Phantom (Pavel.K)

OPUS 65
No 1: From Early Years (Morodiene)
No 2: Peasant's Song (Wisebuff)
No 3: Melancholy (PianoStudent88)
No 5: Ballad (Rupak Bhattacharya)
No 6: Wedding Day at Troldhauen (Ganddalf)

OPUS 68
No 1: Sailor's Song (ElleC)
No 2: Grandmother's minuet (yester)
No 3: At Your Feet (dire tonic)
No 4: Evening in the mountains (Limefriday)
No 5: Cradle Song (Carey)

OPUS 71
No 1: Once upon a time (AnneH)
No 3: Puck (Farmgirl)
No 4: Peace of the Woods (Valencia)
No 5: Halling (Morodiene)
No 6: Gone (Keystring)
No 7: Remembrances (dynamobt)

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Edited by Dipsy (07/09/13 08:45 AM)

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#2115197 - 07/09/13 03:09 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Dipsy]
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I'll take 62/2 "Gratitude" as a second piece. And I am very grateful to get it...

Sam

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#2115257 - 07/09/13 05:08 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Dipsy]
yester Offline
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Posts: 76
Originally Posted By: Dipsy
That's great yester - welcome to our group! I hope you enjoy preparing your piece. Many people prepare their piece privately, but if you want to share any ideas or problems you have about it on this thread, than that's great too!


that's great, I’m looking forward to share my problems because I am self-taught, no teacher out there to bombard with questions…

Ok, my starting problem: I’m wondering about the right arrangement. I use these imslp-notes: - klick -.

But listening to Walter Giesekings recording - klick - I’m not sure if there are different notes out there…

think Gieseking plays the notes I have linked but when he achieves page 3 of the piece (page 5 of the pdf) he just plays till the third measure in line two (I mean the measure with the dotted whole-note-chord G-major - unfortunately the measures are not numbered).

But then he skips the next eight measures and goes on with the first measure on the penultimate line (marked with “con moto”).

I have listened to a recording by Antonio Pompa-Baldi (not on youtube but on spotify) and he playes the ominous measures.

Can somebody bring some light into the darkness?


Edited by yester (07/09/13 05:12 PM)
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#2115262 - 07/09/13 05:25 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Posts: 320
I'm glad Sam that you've now found another piece you'd like to do, after it turned out that 'Gone' had done just that (my mistake). The updated list to reflect your choice is below.

Yester, you've come to the right place! If I can't give you any suggestions there are much better pianists than me on this thread who I'm sure will help... I've lost my specs tonight so I'm trying to see through a credit card sized plastic magnifying 'glass', so I can't see v well!

UNTAKEN (10):

OPUS 38
No 5 : Spring Dance
No 8 : Canon

OPUS 43
No 6 : To the spring

OPUS 47
No 7 : Elegy

OPUS 54
No 5 : Scherzo

OPUS 62
No 3 : French Serenade
No 6 : Homeward

OPUS 65
No 4 : Salon

OPUS 68
No 6 : Melancholy Waltz

OPUS 71
No 2 : Summer Evening


The list of allocated pieces is:

TAKEN (56)
OPUS 12
No 1: Arietta (AimeeO)
No 2: Waltz (Saranoya)
No 3: Watchman's Song (Casinitaly)
No 4: Elve's Dance (LadyChen)
No 5: Popular Melody (AndyPlatt)
No 6: Norwegian Melody (Piano Dad)
No 7: Album Leaf (Saranoya)
No 8: National Song (AZ Astro)

OPUS 38
No 1: Berceuse (zrtf90)
No 2: Popular Melody (Wayne33yrs)
No 3: Melody (SwissMS)
No 4: Halling (Piano Dad)
No 6: Elegy (Recaredo)
No 7: Waltz (Dipsy)

OPUS 43
No 1: Butterfly (Beric)
No 2: Solitary Traveller (Wisebuff)
No 3: In My Native Country (Allard)
No 4: Little Bird (RagnHild)
No 5: Erotik (Peterws)

OPUS 47
No I: Valse Impromptu (Swissms)
No 2: Album Leaf (Ganddalf)
No 3: Melody (Dipsy)
No 4: Halling (Carlos88)
No 5: Melancholy (Stumbler)
No 6: Spring Dance (Peterws)

OPUS 54
No 1: Shepherd's Boy (Beric)
No 2: Norwegian March (zrtf90)
No 3: March of the Trolls (Rostosky)
No 4: Notturno (Dipsy)
No 6: Bell Ringing (Sinophilia)

OPUS 57
No 1: Vanished Days (dire tonic)
No 2: Gade (Sam S)
No 3: Illusion (PianoStudent88)
No 4: Secret (Beric)
No 5: She Dances (Dire Tonic)
No 6: Home Sickness (RagnHild)

OPUS 62
No 1: Sylph (niluh01)
No 2: Gratitude (Sam S)
No 4: Brooklet (niluh01)
No 5: Phantom (Pavel.K)

OPUS 65
No 1: From Early Years (Morodiene)
No 2: Peasant's Song (Wisebuff)
No 3: Melancholy (PianoStudent88)
No 5: Ballad (Rupak Bhattacharya)
No 6: Wedding Day at Troldhauen (Ganddalf)

OPUS 68
No 1: Sailor's Song (ElleC)
No 2: Grandmother's minuet (yester)
No 3: At Your Feet (dire tonic)
No 4: Evening in the mountains (Limefriday)
No 5: Cradle Song (Carey)

OPUS 71
No 1: Once upon a time (AnneH)
No 3: Puck (Farmgirl)
No 4: Peace of the Woods (Valencia)
No 5: Halling (Morodiene)
No 6: Gone (Keystring)
No 7: Remembrances (dynamobt)

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#2115275 - 07/09/13 06:10 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: yester]
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Originally Posted By: yester
Originally Posted By: Dipsy
That's great yester - welcome to our group! I hope you enjoy preparing your piece. Many people prepare their piece privately, but if you want to share any ideas or problems you have about it on this thread, than that's great too!


that's great, I’m looking forward to share my problems because I am self-taught, no teacher out there to bombard with questions…

Ok, my starting problem: I’m wondering about the right arrangement. I use these imslp-notes: - klick -.

But listening to Walter Giesekings recording - klick - I’m not sure if there are different notes out there…

think Gieseking plays the notes I have linked but when he achieves page 3 of the piece (page 5 of the pdf) he just plays till the third measure in line two (I mean the measure with the dotted whole-note-chord G-major - unfortunately the measures are not numbered).

But then he skips the next eight measures and goes on with the first measure on the penultimate line (marked with “con moto”).

I have listened to a recording by Antonio Pompa-Baldi (not on youtube but on spotify) and he playes the ominous measures.

Can somebody bring some light into the darkness?


Giesekings skipped some measures. Don't know why. The score you linked at imslp is correct. Maybe he had a memory lapse? Maybe the recording engineer cut something out? That's very odd.

Sam

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#2115736 - 07/10/13 03:51 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Thank you for answering, Sam!
I'm glad that the score is correct, now I can start practicing with a certain calm.
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#2116960 - 07/13/13 11:59 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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As a second piece, I'll tackle Opus 43 No. 6 - To the Spring.

I've had the score for more than 50 years - this is the little nudge I needed to finally buckle down and learn it !!!!

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#2117169 - 07/13/13 07:31 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Yay! Welcome to Opus 43 laugh
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#2117266 - 07/13/13 11:24 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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I'll take on Opus 47 No 7, Elegy, in addition to the two I have already.

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#2117274 - 07/13/13 11:35 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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#2118109 - 07/15/13 05:10 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Hi all,

once again I have a question, hope somebody can help me.
I’m a little bit confused about the staccato-marks in my piece (Grandmother’s menuet op. 68 no2)

My problem starts on the second quarter time, I’m not sure how to play it. I encounter it the first time and this note-constellation runs through the whole piece.

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On the one hand there is a quarter note to play which is marked with a staccato point. On the other hand there are two eight notes with staccato points at the same time to play.

Without the staccato mark of the quarter note it’s easy: I hold the quarter note while I’m playing the two eight notes staccato. But unfortunately (for me…) ) the quarter note has a staccato mark as well.

So how should I play the staccato of the quarter note in relation to the two staccato eight notes?
Is the quarter note more played like a portato? When should I unhand the note in relation to the two eight notes?

It would be great if somebody could explain it to me; I’m a little bit lost.

greetings
yester


Edited by yester (07/15/13 05:12 PM)
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#2118115 - 07/15/13 05:24 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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I think that you think that if a note is a quarter note, that it has to last for the duration of that time. But it simply means that you press that note on that beat, and then you press the next staccato quarter note on the next beat. Meanwhile you have played two eighth notes during that time. You can also get insights by looking up performances of your piece.

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#2118125 - 07/15/13 05:47 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Thanks for answering, keystring!

Yes, I do hear a lot of performences of my piece, I have really good recordings, but unfortunatly I'm not able to figure out by ear how the interpreter play this (listening is always my first step beginning a new piece).

So following your explanation the staccato quarter note is played as shortley as the first staccato eight note? So Grieg also could have noted a staccato eight note plus an eight rest instead of the staccato quarter note?
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#2118135 - 07/15/13 06:01 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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It sounds like you got it.

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#2118149 - 07/15/13 06:30 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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great grin thanks a lot for your help!
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#2118379 - 07/16/13 03:31 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Wow, these themed recitals sure sound like a lot of fun. I've seen the thread for some time now but never realized how it works until it was discussed at the EPP. To work together towards a common goal must be great.

Unfortunately, Grieg is above my current level but I will consider joining the next themed recital (unless you choose Rachmaninov).
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