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Just curious...as to how people in Europe learn piano? do they have some sort of a european method? I gather there are no Alfred methods available in europe so they must have their own methods. I also after a quick browsing of google found out that some europeans actually do not like method books at all. So how do they learn it? Do they go through Beyer and Czerny op. 599 books? Thanks  I'm not in Europe. But I became curious where you are. Are you in Asia? I am from Japan and we used Czerny Beyer etc as you mentioned. But I have never seen anyone use Beyer. Czerny and Burgmuller yes. But not Beyer. Isn't it interesting?
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The main difference is that when driving to lessons they sit on the right... Only if you are the passenger! The only part of Europe still driving on the "other side" is the UK. Here in Italy the Alfred books are available but don't have a huge profile. Czerny and Duvernoy are used for exercises - but rather than working through books teachers seem to work through a very very broad selection of pieces - and generally all "classical" (I use the term broadly). Apart from the actual selection of the music, and the fact that in most countries here the notes are called "do -re- mi" rather than "a- b- c".... I think it is pretty much the same. Many Italian teachers like - insist on - solfegge.... I balked at that because I refused to take the extra effort needed to shift over to do-re-mi and it was just too confusing as my first teacher didn't speak English. I'll sing the parts with my new teacher but only for the sound, not for note naming.
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alfred is hard to come by at music stores here. but there are alot of international solutions(amazon). for me. i use the lypur method( http://www.youtube.com/user/Lypur) my days are full with all sorts of assignments. so i cant go to a school/teacher for lessons in Amsterdam translates and sells much of the Alfred method, actually. My local store also carries the books, as well as other popular methods. Apart from the actual selection of the music, and the fact that in most countries here the notes are called "do -re- mi" rather than "a- b- c".... I think it is pretty much the same. "c-d-e", or do you Italians learn the minor keys first? :p
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According to what I have seen here in Europe (visiting stores in UK, Belgium, Germany and Spain), the fever for the Alfred Adult Beginner books, and the Kawai digital piano fever are pianoworld.com specific appearances only. Out on the street, they are of minor interest. Regarding method books, I couldn´t see any mayor preference for the one or other book, here. There are at least 2 dozens of german books, 1 dozen of english and 1 dozen of french methods available. Teachers stick with children to a book, but for adults the teachers whom I met give student specific classes based on a personal selection of classical repertoire. And it is made use a lot of scales and arpeggios for training body and finger postures, and how to derive different sound from them. If you ask for a recommendation, I would first mention the books of the publisher Chester. The author Carol Barratt did some good job with her adults beginner edition, which you can find i.e. here.!
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According to what I have seen here in Europe (visiting stores in UK, Belgium, Germany and Spain), the fever for the Alfred Adult Beginner books, and the Kawai digital piano fever are pianoworld.com specific appearances only. Out on the street, they are of minor interest. Regarding method books, I couldn´t see any mayor preference for the one or other book, here. There are at least 2 dozens of german books, 1 dozen of english and 1 dozen of french methods available. Teachers stick with children to a book, but for adults the teachers whom I met give student specific classes based on a personal selection of classical repertoire. And it is made use a lot of scales and arpeggios for training body and finger postures, and how to derive different sound from them. If you ask for a recommendation, I would first mention the books of the publisher Chester. The author Carol Barratt did some good job with her adults beginner edition, which you can find i.e. here.! kawai is harderto find here, while korg roland and yamaha are evrywhere and even get sold at the department stores.
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Apart from the actual selection of the music, and the fact that in most countries here the notes are called "do -re- mi" rather than "a- b- c".... I think it is pretty much the same. "c-d-e", or do you Italians learn the minor keys first? :p [/quote] lol...ok smarty pants You got me on that one. and btw - (I don't think it is always clear) -I live in Italy, but I'm not Italian , I'm Canadian.
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Today at work, I was chatting to a colleague who was born and educated in Poland. He recounted how music was compulsory throughout primary and high school. He was embarrassed that he had to stand up and sing in front of everybody. School syllabus included music history & Chopin.... He played piano and guitar but his class mates learnt different instruments..... Playing music was an integral part of life then, some 40 years ago.
This is an interesting finding.
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The main difference is that when driving to lessons they sit on the right... As an American who lived in Germany for 5 years courtesy of the US Army, I can tell you two things. 1. You sit on the left, drive on the right. 2. You keep driving because there ARE NO PARKING SPOTS! Lol, made my day, you are absolutely right. But on the other hand - we have a lot of freeways without speed limit, very good car radios and we are skilled to eat while driving - so why should we want to stop keep driving? 
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I started with Beyer, then Czerny op. 599 books and then Clementi Sonatinas, Beethoven and so on. Of course methods vary from country to country and from school to school and obviously some adults may want to follow a different path and ask the teacher for it.
At our school we also take theory+solfège lessons, 1 hour a week.
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... why should we want to stop keep driving? Ya gotta stop to buy beer! ...Presumably... similar... their brains, eyes, and bodies to us I do knoooo? Are you sure? Rod Serling might be hiding in the corner.
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