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#2116652 - 07/12/13 03:00 PM Barbara Lister-Sink Method
CleverName Offline
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For all of the discussion around here regarding Taubman technique and the like, I haven't really seen any (and didn't turn up any in a search) threads regarding Barbara Lister-Sink and her method. It's documented in the DVD "Freeing the Caged Bird." Anybody work under this method, or have any thoughts on it?

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#2116682 - 07/12/13 04:25 PM Re: Barbara Lister-Sink Method [Re: CleverName]
laguna_greg Online   sleepy
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Hi Clever,

Barbara really knows what she's talking about. She collaborates with some of the leading neurologists and orthopods on the East Coast, and they all have a lot of respect for her and her clinical outcomes. I spoke with her a couple of years back when I was working on a magazine article about pianist's injuries. Very unusually, her department allows her to work with the injured as part of their coursework towards degree requirements.

She doesn't get a lot of attention focused on her because, I think, 1- She hasn't published much about her clinical work yet, 2- She doesn't have a bunch of noisy people (like myself) supporting an institute in her name, and 3- Dorothy was here first, and for quite a bit longer.

Another teacher who is doing similar good work is Vera Wells, who heads up the ergonomics/injury prevention program at the Manhattan School of Music. Vera worked extensively with Dr. Emil Pascarelli at the Miller Institute in New York before developing the program at Manhattan. Both of these women are working very diligently to inform their teaching with good information, scientific methods, and the proper integration of suitable medical intervention when needed. And they are almost alone in academia with the amount of acceptance and support they have generated for their work within their institutions.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Taubman (a recent article I wrote about one of my teachers)

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#2118311 - 07/16/13 12:27 AM Re: Barbara Lister-Sink Method [Re: CleverName]
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Thanks for the input, Greg! She does seem to advertise quite a lot that her work is based on sound bio-mechanics, which if true, makes it virtually impossible to refute.

Is anyone here a student or teacher of the method, I wonder? I'm curious about the outcome of the method beyond just injury-prevention; what people's experience has been regarding their sound, virtuosity, etc...

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#2118883 - 07/17/13 01:55 AM Re: Barbara Lister-Sink Method [Re: laguna_greg]
Peter K. Mose Offline
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Originally Posted By: laguna_greg

Another teacher who is doing similar good work is Vera Wells, who heads up the ergonomics/injury prevention program at the Manhattan School of Music.


Vera Wills, with an i.

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#2118892 - 07/17/13 02:40 AM Re: Barbara Lister-Sink Method [Re: CleverName]
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Type in "Barbara Lister-Sink" at YouTube:

Here is the "introduction" section from the DVD with Barbara playing the Rachmaninoff Prelude in B-flat major, Op. 23, No. 2, to start:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9ZsdAEycLs

I like how she begins by repeatedly striking the lowest B-flat on the piano and gradually getting louder until the first octave B-flat is struck which starts the piece!

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#2119088 - 07/17/13 01:29 PM Re: Barbara Lister-Sink Method [Re: pv88]
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Originally Posted By: pv88
Type in "Barbara Lister-Sink" at YouTube:

Here is the "introduction" section from the DVD with Barbara playing the Rachmaninoff Prelude in B-flat major, Op. 23, No. 2, to start:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9ZsdAEycLs

I like how she begins by repeatedly striking the lowest B-flat on the piano and gradually getting louder until the first octave B-flat is struck which starts the piece!


Oh yes, having watched the video and seeing her play live, she's clearly a monster pianist-her playing is unbelievably good. I'm just curious how many of her students achieve something similar...

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#2119297 - 07/17/13 09:02 PM Re: Barbara Lister-Sink Method [Re: Peter K. Mose]
laguna_greg Online   sleepy
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Hi Peter,

Thanks for the correction. I can spell, but I can't type very well!
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1919 Mason & Hamlin AA
1931 Bechstein C - now sold
http://www.triangleassociates-us.com/about_us (my day job)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Taubman (a recent article I wrote about one of my teachers)

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#2121363 - 07/22/13 03:50 AM Re: Barbara Lister-Sink Method [Re: CleverName]
ChopinAddict Offline
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I have her DVD and found it useful.
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#2121426 - 07/22/13 09:28 AM Re: Barbara Lister-Sink Method [Re: CleverName]
BethH Offline
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Loc: WI
I attended a lecture and master class she did a few years ago. I heard a couple of amazing changes in tone with a couple of students.

Easy to watch and hear what she did with the students. Harder to take home any of those changes, however!

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#2122584 - 07/25/13 12:15 AM Re: Barbara Lister-Sink Method [Re: BethH]
CleverName Offline
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Registered: 06/02/11
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Originally Posted By: BethH
I attended a lecture and master class she did a few years ago. I heard a couple of amazing changes in tone with a couple of students.

Easy to watch and hear what she did with the students. Harder to take home any of those changes, however!


I imagine that it would it would require a significant amount of hands-on instruction.

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#2126713 - 08/02/13 12:33 AM Re: Barbara Lister-Sink Method [Re: CleverName]
CleverName Offline
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Any other thoughts? Anyone actually been a student of her method?

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