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#2121984 - 07/23/13 03:58 PM How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube?
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My latest, just over 3m long, is 164mb . . .on a wmv file. I don`t think it`d be much less on another; as you might imagine, it`ll take ages to upload . . . Advice most welcome! I`ve never had quite this bother before . . .
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#2121993 - 07/23/13 04:38 PM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: peterws]
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Really depends on your connection. At any rate it shouldn't take more than an hour or two even on the slowest of broadband connections.

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#2122016 - 07/23/13 05:50 PM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: peterws]
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Youtube gives an estimate of how long it will take to upload.
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#2122028 - 07/23/13 06:19 PM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: peterws]
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Trouble is my file was soo huge! The only ting I did different was amplify the music in Videopad . . . .
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#2122043 - 07/23/13 07:01 PM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: peterws]
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You mean: Audio File?
You'll never get an audiophile uploaded. smile
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#2122086 - 07/23/13 10:12 PM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: rnaple]
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Originally Posted By: rnaple
You mean: Audio File?
You'll never get an audiophile uploaded. smile



Perhaps if you shove them really really hard?
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#2122139 - 07/24/13 02:34 AM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: peterws]
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You have to zip him first laugh
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#2122153 - 07/24/13 03:03 AM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: peterws]
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Audiophiles are well known to be picky about their file formats. wink
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#2122512 - 07/24/13 08:35 PM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: peterws]
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Why are you converting an audio file to a video format? An mp3 of the song would be exponentially smaller in file size.
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#2122517 - 07/24/13 08:49 PM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: Daniel Corban]
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Originally Posted By: Daniel Corban
Why are you converting an audio file to a video format? An mp3 of the song would be exponentially smaller in file size.


Check the title of the thread: It's to go to YouTube and you can't submit mp3 directly.
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#2122718 - 07/25/13 10:01 AM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: peterws]
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You shouldn't be using YouTube to post an audio file, period.
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#2122720 - 07/25/13 10:11 AM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: Daniel Corban]
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An audio file with a video attachment, so to speak. Rather than a video with an audio attachment. So I should`ve said "videofile" because that's where the megabytes seem to dwell . . . perhaps the lighting was too high or something.
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#2122773 - 07/25/13 12:14 PM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: peterws]
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You could copy it on a stick and take it to a place with a good internet connection (University, Library, a friend, Cybercafé).
Or you could simply leave your computer running overnight if necessary.
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#2122776 - 07/25/13 12:18 PM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: MrPozor]
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I probably overlooked the saving options. Super-Massive quality isn`t necessary is it? I`ll be doin` another tonight. See how I get on . . .
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#2123726 - 07/27/13 09:36 AM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: peterws]
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I have two comments on file size:

First, maybe you are recording the audio file with an excessively high sampling or bit rate? A high rate gives you the best sound quality, but it's not necessary for YouTube, where the sound is compressed and fidelity is lost after it's posted anyway. So, record at a lower sampling rate. Also, maybe try to record in MP3 format...much smaller files with that. (Sidenote: Careful though...record in MP3 and you're stuck with MP3. Record in WAV and you can convert to MP3 and still retain the WAV file if you need it later.)

Next...converting audio file to a video file: I use Windows Live Moviemaker to generate movie files, and when I save the movie (slideshow), I select the output as "Email" or "Computer" rather than "High Def." I've used "email" a number of times to yield very small .wmv files and they sound fine on YouTube. In fact the movie file is much smaller than the original WAV file.

So...give those ideas a try.

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#2123743 - 07/27/13 10:11 AM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: peterws]
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164MB for 3 minutes isn't unreasonable. Why not just do the upload overnight and see if it finishes in the morning?

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#2123776 - 07/27/13 11:23 AM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: Allan W.]
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TBH The song wasn`t brilliant . . .
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#2123792 - 07/27/13 12:37 PM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: peterws]
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Going on from what RoyR said, there are sampling choices and I think part of it (maybe the greater?) involves video picture quality which eats up the most. It *is* possible to upload mp3 if you add a "slide show". I intend to look into this myself.

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#2124152 - 07/28/13 09:20 AM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: keystring]
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Upload comparison:

--Original WAV file recorded on a Roland Juno Gi: upload was 26.2MB>> https://soundcloud.com/1royr/ocean-dreams-mar10-at-oc-with

--WMV media file made using above WAV file on Windows Live Movie Maker. Included one low-resolution snapshot, only so that I could make a proper video playable on YouTube. Saved the file at "email" (lowest) quality. Upload file size was 1.8MB >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3XuqSznuVc

Can anyone hear much of a difference in sound quality? Probably not, using just computer earphones.

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#2124241 - 07/28/13 01:10 PM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: RoyR]
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Interesting. Now, years ago when digital cameras were around 3mp at the bottom end o` the market, I had a Fuji Finepix. I reduced the quality to 1mp and the pictures looked no different. Still v. sharp. Cheap cameras have 12 mp and no increase in quality whatever. . . Bit off topic isn`t it?
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#2124249 - 07/28/13 01:30 PM Re: How long to upload an audiophile to Youtube? [Re: peterws]
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Peterws...not that off-topic! And you started this thread so it's OK!

I guess my point was that streamed audio is usually degraded, so no matter what quality the upload is, the way it sounds when it is streamed is pretty much the same. Plus, places like YouTube compress the data for storage so quality is lost. I think the only time upload quality matters is when you expect someone to download the file. Soundcloud stores the entire file uncompressed (I think) so upload quality would matter. But for YouTube? A low-quality upload is fine!

Same issue with digital cameras. Lots of pixels in a big photo file don't matter when the content is viewed only on a low-res computer screen, snapshot-size. But pixels matter on a big screen or on a hi-res printer.

With audio, a big data file compressed or streamed sounds about the same as a small file. But play back the entire uncompressed file on a good sound system, and the difference will be obvious.

So, Peterws...what is your overall conclusion with this? Are you still uploading those huge files or are you going with small ones?

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