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#2122830 - 07/25/13 02:31 PM Advise on Pianos chinese vs European
JFK2 Offline
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Registered: 07/12/13
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I wonder what would technicians' advise be to a buyer if one would want to go with less costly grand piano? I guess European handmade are kind of significantly higher priced.
Which Chinese Pianos is considered a higher quality (parts, ...) ?

Thank for your feedback ...

PS: Trying to get an advise from technicians rather than salesman smile

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#2122844 - 07/25/13 02:59 PM Re: Advise on Pianos chinese vs European [Re: JFK2]
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If you want to save money on a cheaper piano, budget some of the savings for a good technician.

Sometimes the most noticeable difference, particularly for the beginner, is in the final preparation and maintenance. A good prep can often improve an inexpensive piano a lot. Skimping on maintenance can turn a fine piano into a mediocre piano.
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#2122855 - 07/25/13 03:14 PM Re: Advise on Pianos chinese vs European [Re: JFK2]
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To go one step further than BDB - A good technician can turn a mediocre piano into a decent and very enjoyable piano.

Detailed "Prep" is usually very minimal, at best, on "price point" pianos.

Hailun and Rittmuller are the pianos to check out. If you are looking for a very small (baby) grand, check out the Young Chang.
Marty in Minnesota

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#2122860 - 07/25/13 03:23 PM Re: Advise on Pianos chinese vs European [Re: JFK2]
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Great advice. I would say this is true. Also, less expensive pianos suffer from less experienced attention in the bellywork.

Mechanically, most Asian pianos are very consistent and well made. A new set of hammers and regulation/tuning/voicing work in the first year from a first rate technician can double the perceived quality of the piano.

Yamaha and Kawai are very consistent and good pianos. I happen to like Yamaha's sound better. Hailun is another good piano maker with talent recruited across the industry to support their endeavors.

Take a technician along with you who can hear the difference in sound between strings/belly/hammers. If a piano has a good voice in the belly, many things can be done with the hammers and regulation to bring it out.

Unity of tone through applied research.

#2122907 - 07/25/13 05:12 PM Re: Advise on Pianos chinese vs European [Re: BDB]
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In this case I would also take recommendation for anyone in San Francisco Bay Area. Anyone known for his mastery and can do wonders ?
I may buy the Piano out of Bay area, anywhere is west cost but probably have to hire someone in Bay area to do the prep.

#2122942 - 07/25/13 06:20 PM Re: Advise on Pianos chinese vs European [Re: JFK2]
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MOST 1980 GOOD European grand would be my choice, and will beat any actual asian in my experience..

Just a different category, the tone simply in another dimension of "piano tone". Cheap asians are more or less cheap versions, of good asians as Yamahas or Kawai

Now I have no idea , as those are difficult to find even in Europe
Professional of the profession.
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#2125215 - 07/30/13 09:50 AM Re: Advise on Pianos chinese vs European [Re: JFK2]
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Any feedback on broidmann PE series. I spoke with
A dealer who really was able to sell it well. Now according
To him it is a higher level Chinese piano. I have
Heard of one owner positive comments and
2 technicians rated them mediocre. They
Seem to be new in US and their website is not
Very impressive at all. Anyone knows of possible
Quality issues with this brand. Looks like beside
This brand, rutmüller is a viable contender
And every other Chinese piano is not really worth
Looking at!
What is your experience with your chienes/European branded
I am not looking at Boston as it Jim's in price by
30% or so for comparable sized grand.


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