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#2128160 - 08/04/13 09:22 PM What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway
MPR Offline
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I recently purchased a house that "came with" an old Steinway piano that had been kept outside on the back deck (under cover) for some time. Whilst my kids are indeed learning piano (we have an "indoor" piano too), I have little interest in a restoration project.

From a little research, this piano is around 1894/1895 vintage (S/N 82939), but looks in need of some serious work, if indeed it is worth doing at all. One pedal is broken, many keys stick, some of the ivory has come off, exterior veneer is in need of help, etc.

My question, as I am nowhere even close to being an expert on these matters, is whether this is worth anything to anyone, or whether this is a "call GotJunk.com and get it taken away" piano. Thoughts, observations?

Here are some photos of the beast:



Thanks.


Edited by MPR (08/04/13 09:23 PM)

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#2128242 - 08/04/13 11:47 PM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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What part of the country are you in? It looks like the piano has been exposed to a LOT of moisture.

It looks to me - and I don't say this lightly - that this piano is beyond reasonable repair. I would contact a local technician to give it a thorough evaluation, which will most likely confirm what we already know.

If the tech confirms that it's junk, see if he would like to salvage the remaining ivory key tops, and call the junk hauler for the rest.

It's rather unfortunate. One of those in decent condition is a nice piano.
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#2128244 - 08/04/13 11:50 PM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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Expect to spend more than $10,000+ to restore it. I agree with Opera Tenor.

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#2128245 - 08/04/13 11:52 PM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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your probably going to spend ~$100 to get it checked out my a tech... if you don't mind spending the money, then go for it..

I personally would just get rid of it..

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#2128408 - 08/05/13 09:57 AM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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I feel sorry for the poor thing.

But, it doesn't seem to be worth the effort to declare a red alert and bring in the crash cart.
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#2128423 - 08/05/13 10:43 AM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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If I had room for it, say in a vestibule or a family room, I would clean it up and attempt to refinish it. Maybe spend a few bucks to make the keyboard presentable. It might make an attractive piece of furniture. smile
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#2128461 - 08/05/13 12:13 PM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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I suggest that you call technicians and offer it to them. You might be able to get one to haul it away for free. That may be your best deal.
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#2128742 - 08/06/13 12:16 AM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: BDB]
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Originally Posted By: BDB
I suggest that you call technicians and offer it to them. You might be able to get one to haul it away for free. That may be your best deal.

I agree
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#2129241 - 08/07/13 12:21 AM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: OperaTenor]
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Originally Posted By: OperaTenor
What part of the country are you in? It looks like the piano has been exposed to a LOT of moisture.

I am in Northern California, San Francisco Bay Area (but not in the foggy areas), so reasonably dry. It's likely been outside a while, then.

Thanks all for the advice. I had a feeling that "see if someone will take it for free" was going to be my best option. Let's see what happens...

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#2129301 - 08/07/13 06:33 AM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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Why don't you contact Steinway themselves? They'll probably take it away, rebuild it and sell it. It's worth it to them to rebuild, because they already have the infrastructure to do so. They could even re-veneer the case. The price they could get for the piano it's probably worth it to do so.

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#2129327 - 08/07/13 09:01 AM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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Its a Steinway so that helps...BUT...the cabinet from that time period would/should be more ornate, since it isn't,
and its in deplorable condition, I'd give it a thumbs down, junk it..

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#2129505 - 08/07/13 05:15 PM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: joe80]
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Originally Posted By: joe80
Why don't you contact Steinway themselves? They'll probably take it away, rebuild it and sell it. It's worth it to them to rebuild, because they already have the infrastructure to do so. They could even re-veneer the case. The price they could get for the piano it's probably worth it to do so.


Steinway will laugh. This needs to be disposed of as cheaply as you can.
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#2129540 - 08/07/13 06:56 PM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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Just so you know, that little flap that holds the music up on the fall board is highly sought after if it is in good shape. They are almost impossible to find in good condition. I had some NOS Steinway case parts that went for an obscene amount of money so you may want to part it out before calling the junk people.
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#2129664 - 08/08/13 01:31 AM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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If I were in OP's neck of the woods, I'd be happy to haul it away for him for salvaging the key tops alone, and would probably grab that little music holder flap thingie for Mr. Christie while I was at it...
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#2129672 - 08/08/13 01:57 AM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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I have made one of those music shelf strips. It was an interesting project. If I had the proper molding cutter, it would have been pretty easy, but I used a modified router bit.
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#2129691 - 08/08/13 03:34 AM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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Who leaves a piano outside?

You could call up D.C. Piano in Berkeley. They do a lot of restorations and might try to inject a bit of life into it.

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#2129794 - 08/08/13 09:51 AM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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Its painful to see a piano end up in this state, and a Steinway too! Heres me dying for any old piano and you get people who dont care for them!
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#2130449 - 08/09/13 02:52 PM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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Hey, I would take the iron frame (Harp), refinish it, paint it nicely, and hang it on a wall as an ornament.

Too bad SF is far away from here.
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#2132371 - 08/13/13 03:46 PM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: Rudy99golf]
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Originally Posted By: Rudy99golf
Hey, I would take the iron frame (Harp), refinish it, paint it nicely, and hang it on a wall as an ornament.

Too bad SF is far away from here.


Even further from here wink
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#2133392 - 08/15/13 02:03 PM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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From the photographs it does not appear to be beyond repair by an ardent DIYER - why not advertise in the local papers and the internet?

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#2147957 - 09/10/13 11:53 PM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
MPR Offline
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I wanted to follow up on this thread to thank everyone for their help. After posting an ad on Craigslist, I ended up letting this go to a local piano restorer/tuner who handled all the moving costs. I think that's probably the best outcome; hopefully, the piano will soon have a new lease of life and can live on (indoors).

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#2147986 - 09/11/13 01:13 AM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: MPR]
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MPR, thank you for the update!

So, the tech plans on resorting it?
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#2148032 - 09/11/13 04:10 AM Re: What do do with a beat up 1894 vintage Steinway [Re: beethoven986]
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Originally Posted By: beethoven986
Expect to spend more than $10,000+ to restore it. I agree with Opera Tenor.


Sometimes a Baldwin SD-10 concert grand in good condition is sold for that price!


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