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#2130462 - 08/09/13 03:14 PM Re: Is my piano worth regulating? [Re: pinkfloydhomer]
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#2130468 - 08/09/13 03:38 PM Re: Is my piano worth regulating? [Re: pinkfloydhomer]
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Perhaps another alternative might be for you to contact fletcher and newman or heckschers to ask if they could recommend anyone .... they normally have a pretty good idea about whether people they supply are any good or not. I knew David Fry from fletchers before he went solo and he often visited clients. He used to advise me who was well thought of and did good work. wink
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#2130576 - 08/10/13 12:24 AM Re: Is my piano worth regulating? [Re: pinkfloydhomer]
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some technicians won't even risk their reputations, by servicing the piano you mentioned.I'm sure it could be regulated, and made to play nicer than it currently does. But don't expect a miracle. I have never been happy with cheap Chinese pianos. Working on them is similar to polishing a turd.
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#2130600 - 08/10/13 02:41 AM Re: Is my piano worth regulating? [Re: Gary Fowler]
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Originally Posted By: Gary Fowler
I have never been happy with cheap Chinese pianos. Working on them is similar to polishing a turd.

Here is a PR quote to reassure the OP that his piano is not the cheapest of the cheap even if it is below the dignity of a superior American technician:

"From the selection of the highest quality materials to the use of the finest components, Nordiska pianos are committed to providing the highest standard of excellence in the industry....

The journey begins with Nordiska’s ability to select premium lumber from the Siberian and native Asian forests which are noted for providing wood with exceptional tonal qualities. Due to their positioning in the Jingkou Liaoning Provence in the Northeastern portion of China, the Nordiska company is among the first companies in China to select properly aged lumber, thereby ensuring a high standard of quality.

To accompany the high quality materials used in the handcrafting of their instruments, Nordiska utilizes only the finest components to provide each piano with a superior sound. The use of German-made Abel hammers throughout the entire Nordiska grand and vertical piano line (with the exception of the 109CM) confirms the Nordiska commitment to quality. European Roslau wire is imported to provide the finest strings and highly skilled craftsmen wind the bass strings by hand ..."

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#2130618 - 08/10/13 04:03 AM Re: Is my piano worth regulating? [Re: Johnkie]
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Originally Posted By: Johnkie
Perhaps another alternative might be for you to contact fletcher and newman or heckschers to ask if they could recommend anyone .... they normally have a pretty good idea about whether people they supply are any good or not. I knew David Fry from fletchers before he went solo and he often visited clients. He used to advise me who was well thought of and did good work. wink


Sorry, but who are Fletcher, Newman or Heckschers? And do they know about danish piano techs?
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#2130624 - 08/10/13 04:25 AM Re: Is my piano worth regulating? [Re: Withindale]
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Originally Posted By: Withindale
Originally Posted By: Gary Fowler
I have never been happy with cheap Chinese pianos. Working on them is similar to polishing a turd.

Here is a PR quote to reassure the OP that his piano is not the cheapest of the cheap even if it is below the dignity of a superior American technician:

"From the selection of the highest quality materials to the use of the finest components, Nordiska pianos are committed to providing the highest standard of excellence in the industry....

The journey begins with Nordiska’s ability to select premium lumber from the Siberian and native Asian forests which are noted for providing wood with exceptional tonal qualities. Due to their positioning in the Jingkou Liaoning Provence in the Northeastern portion of China, the Nordiska company is among the first companies in China to select properly aged lumber, thereby ensuring a high standard of quality.

To accompany the high quality materials used in the handcrafting of their instruments, Nordiska utilizes only the finest components to provide each piano with a superior sound. The use of German-made Abel hammers throughout the entire Nordiska grand and vertical piano line (with the exception of the 109CM) confirms the Nordiska commitment to quality. European Roslau wire is imported to provide the finest strings and highly skilled craftsmen wind the bass strings by hand ..."



Very kind of you... it is understandeable that the use of an European brand may go along with some quality search, or justification, in the end.

I have no much experience with cheap grades of pianos, but if the instrument have little acoustical ability, a tuning as CHAS add some musicality, anyway provide a reference so it can be played without noticing too much the poorness of the tone.

This is what I noticed, a strong tuning sort of take the power on the instrument. The advantage of CHAS in that case is that it reflects the own resonance of the piano and raise it without being too "present" as a pattern.



Edited by Olek (08/10/13 04:26 AM)
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#2130637 - 08/10/13 05:08 AM Re: Is my piano worth regulating? [Re: pinkfloydhomer]
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Fletcher and Newman and Heckschers are piano part suppliers here in the Uk who supply all over the world.

You may of course have your own piano parts supplier over there in Denmark, in which case contact them to recommend a good tech instead. The trouble with simply finding a registered tuner / tech is that sadly some are just plain terrible .... as is the case in any trade where registration is regarded as some kind of quality standard.

Just ignore the comments about cheap Chinese pianos not being worth working on ..... like polishing a turd ..... they are talking generalised tripe.
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#2130641 - 08/10/13 05:36 AM Re: Is my piano worth regulating? [Re: pinkfloydhomer]
Olek Offline
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Originally Posted By: pinkfloydhomer
Originally Posted By: Johnkie
Perhaps another alternative might be for you to contact fletcher and newman or heckschers to ask if they could recommend anyone .... they normally have a pretty good idea about whether people they supply are any good or not. I knew David Fry from fletchers before he went solo and he often visited clients. He used to advise me who was well thought of and did good work. wink


Sorry, but who are Fletcher, Newman or Heckschers? And do they know about danish piano techs?


They sound as a group !

Piano parts and tools of moderate quality in my opinion, I buy most in Germany, that seem to be very difficult to many English techs to do so, may be for historical reasons, certainly because of the higher cost too.

You may have some luck to find good techs in the companies that rent Steinway pianos for concerts, or they can give you a name.

The Steinway dealer here have a really excellent dept for vertical pianos, with a top notch head tech specialist (that does not often work on grands, as the organistaion is that way, but is really the best upright technician I have met)


Edited by Olek (08/10/13 05:46 AM)
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#2131132 - 08/11/13 08:45 AM Re: Is my piano worth regulating? [Re: pinkfloydhomer]
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It's going a bit off-topic, but due to the activites of the Phantom WD40 Sprayer of Old Glasgow Town, I have put a page on my website, comparing two 1911 Bechstein Model 10 pianos, one having had the WD40 tuning pin "treatment" by this guy. It's at http://www.davidboyce.co.uk/no-wd40-please.php

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#2131172 - 08/11/13 10:34 AM Re: Is my piano worth regulating? [Re: pinkfloydhomer]
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it is worth giving his name, as he is may be yet active.
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#2131306 - 08/11/13 03:51 PM Re: Is my piano worth regulating? [Re: Olek]
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He is still active. I prefer merely to express my view of the practice, a view informed by the expert opinion of very experienced piano technicians and rebuilders.


Edited by David Boyce (08/11/13 04:15 PM)

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