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#2134949 - 08/18/13 04:53 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: yester]
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Originally Posted By: yester


I would be happy if you would take the french serenade (op. 62 no 3) or / and grandmothers menuet op (68 no2).


I'd be happy to take no. 2.

Please take the time you need with your family!

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#2135241 - 08/19/13 08:59 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: LadyChen]
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Originally Posted By: LadyChen
Originally Posted By: yester


I would be happy if you would take the french serenade (op. 62 no 3) or / and grandmothers menuet op (68 no2).


I'd be happy to take no. 2.

Please take the time you need with your family!
I'll do the French Serenade, but I do hope that you are able to submit the music that you put your hard work into at some point, when you are able.
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#2135387 - 08/19/13 12:47 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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I have completed my recordings. What is the procedure now? To whom should I send the YouTube links?

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#2135398 - 08/19/13 01:01 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Sorry to hear your sad news Yester frown

Ganddalf, I think you just need to track down the Opus leaders to the pieces you chose, and send them the YT Link smile

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#2135502 - 08/19/13 03:14 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Morodiene]
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Thanks a lot, LadyChen and Morodine for taking my pieces.
You do a lot of extra work, I hope, I can return the favor one day.

Originally Posted By: Morodiene
I'll do the French Serenade, but I do hope that you are able to submit the music that you put your hard work into at some point, when you are able.


I hope so, too. At the moment my thoughts in my head are 24 hours double rotating,but I will do my very best.

Thanks again to all for the good wishes.
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#2135543 - 08/19/13 04:55 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Ganddalf]
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Originally Posted By: Ganddalf
I have completed my recordings. What is the procedure now? To whom should I send the YouTube links?


For Ganddalf and any others - to save you going back to look for the list:

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#2135850 - 08/20/13 09:34 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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I'm uploading my video to Youtube smile
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#2135857 - 08/20/13 09:49 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Beat you to it. grin

... well, one down and one to be improved.
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#2135951 - 08/20/13 11:58 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: casinitaly]
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(Jumping up and down in highly animated and hysterical fashion)

"Opus 43!! Opus 43!!
Come to me!! Come to me!!"
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#2136065 - 08/20/13 03:26 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Grieg's music is all in the public domain, right?

I'm just making sure because I've uploaded one of my Grieg pieces to youtube and i already have a claim against it that says "matched 3rd party content". :\

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#2136086 - 08/20/13 03:53 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Valencia]
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Why not try uploading under a simplified title? I`ve had no bother . . yet!
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#2136099 - 08/20/13 04:10 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Valencia]
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Originally Posted By: Valencia
Grieg's music is all in the public domain, right?

I'm just making sure because I've uploaded one of my Grieg pieces to youtube and i already have a claim against it that says "matched 3rd party content". :\


I have faced this so many times over my son's recordings. There are a ton of music rights societies supposedly working on behalf of professional musicians. If YouTube's crude matching program "thinks" that your work sounds like a particular recording of Martha Argerich that is owned by EMI, it will allow EMI to slap that notice on your recording. This has nothing to do with Grieg being in the public domain. It's about 3rd party content.

Follow the dispute procedure and tell them that there is no 3rd party content. That it is your recording, of you, in your house, using your recording equipment. Then EMI will have to judge your claim. Usually, they release it. I have had to fight them repeatedly, and sometimes heatedly.

Once, I actually got Norman Lebrecht to publicly embarrass EMI on his website. Through that process, I found the email of a lawyer at EMI, and he "fixed it" for me. Of course, a few months later some other society (Orchard, I think) claimed the recording on behalf of a completely different pianist. And I fought them off. Never ending process.

Here's the Lebrecht involvement, BTW. It was fun!

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#2136108 - 08/20/13 04:31 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Piano*Dad]
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Originally Posted By: Piano*Dad
If YouTube's crude matching program "thinks" that your work sounds like a particular recording of Martha Argerich...


Wow, that would be quite an achievement! Won't happen to me grin
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#2136111 - 08/20/13 04:33 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Yes, but the matching program is indeed verrrrrrrrry crude. My fourteen year old was accused of being Daniel Barenboim. Imagine my surprise.
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#2136113 - 08/20/13 04:37 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Thanks so much peter and Piano*Dad. I tried what you suggested peter but it kept up with the matched 3rd party content. So I will do what Piano*Dad suggests and dispute the claim.

it's pretty ridiculous because when you hear my recording you will hear that it sounds like someone learning to play the piano who still needs a lot of practice--nothing professional-sounding about it!

Thanks for the link Piano*Dad, I will check it out!

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#2136133 - 08/20/13 04:58 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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The dispute process will ask if you have proof of rights to use the content. That's NOT what you say, and not the box you check off. You are disputing that there IS 3rd party content. It's 100% your own content, of a piece in the public domain.
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#2136142 - 08/20/13 05:03 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Too late to join in? I recently worked up To the Spring (43,6). Any good? No worries if someone else is already covering it.
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#2136144 - 08/20/13 05:06 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: ten left thumbs]
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Originally Posted By: ten left thumbs
Too late to join in? I recently worked up To the Spring (43,6). Any good? No worries if someone else is already covering it.


I checked the list and see that Carey has been working on that one.
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#2136145 - 08/20/13 05:07 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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By the way folks, in case you didn't know, I'm opled for opus62, and Richard is opled for opus 54 and 38

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#2136176 - 08/20/13 05:54 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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And if any opus 43-ers are looking in (Beric, Wisebuff, Allard and Carey) . . how ya getting` on, guys?

Processing this stuff is going to be fun . . . hope y`all have a sense o` humour . . .and truckloads o` patience . .
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#2136376 - 08/21/13 03:21 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: casinitaly]
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Originally Posted By: casinitaly
Originally Posted By: ten left thumbs
Too late to join in? I recently worked up To the Spring (43,6). Any good? No worries if someone else is already covering it.


I checked the list and see that Carey has been working on that one.



OK, thanks for letting me know.
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#2136419 - 08/21/13 05:40 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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ALL HANDS ON DECK PLEASE! WE NEED YOU!


Beric, who was to do 5 pieces, and had them ready to be recorded had to have an emergency operation on his right hand yesterday and won't be able to take part in the recital (unless he plays just the left hand parts!!)

We now need homes for FIVE TWO pieces, so any of you looking on from the sidelines who wanted to take part, but found that nothing suitable was left, - here' your chance to be a hero/heroine

The pieces are:

OPUS 43 no 1 - Butterfly (its a beauty) taken by Morodiene
OPUS 54 no 1 - Shepherd's Boy
OPUS 57 no4 - Secret
OPUS 62 no 4 - Brooklet taken by Morodiene
OPUS 68 no 6 - Melancholy Waltz.taken by Carey

We've become a strong supportive community over the last few months - but now its being tested as never before. Lets show how a band of - desparate piano players scattered across the globe, can come together as a team as never before to face the challenge.

(Winston Churchill eat your heart out - 'we shall fight them on the beaches, we shall fight them in their privvies (no, not really - just cracking up!)...... )



Edited by Dipsy (08/21/13 03:54 PM)

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#2136435 - 08/21/13 06:50 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Oh... I hope Beric recovers quickly.
And I'm sorry Dipsy, I understand your request, but I can't help this time...
Good luck!
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#2136436 - 08/21/13 06:59 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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I thought we were doing private youtube. The 3rd party content shouldn't come up then should it? Peter, I could use the refresher "step by step" on uploading if you have one handy. I use youtube so infrequently that I have to relearn each time.
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#2136463 - 08/21/13 08:21 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Dipsy]
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ALL HANDS ON DECK PLEASE! WE NEED YOU!


Beric, who was to do 5 pieces, and had them ready to be recorded had to have an emergency operation on his right hand yesterday and won't be able to take part in the recital (unless he plays just the left hand parts!!)

We now need homes for FIVE pieces, so any of you looking on from the sidelines who wanted to take part, but found that nothing suitable was left, - here' your chance to be a hero/heroine

The pieces are:

OPUS 43 no 1 - Butterfly (its a beauty)
OPUS 54 no 1 - Shepherd's Boy
OPUS 57 no4 - Secret
OPUS 62 no 4 - Brooklet
OPUS 68 no 6 - Melancholy Waltz.

We've become a strong supportive community over the last few months - but now its being tested as never before. Lets show how a band of disparate piano players scattered across the globe, can come together as a team as never before to face the challenge.

(Winston Churchill eat your heart out - 'we shall fight them on the beaches, we shall fight them in their privvies (no, not really - just cracking up!)...... )

Oh no! Please let Beric know that I'm praying for his speedy recovery!

I was just thinking last night that the more of these Grieg pieces I do, the more I enjoy playing them. I was also thinking that I have worked on 8 lyric pieces (including ones I had played prior to this recital), and that it would be kind of cool to try to play and record them all over a period of a year or something. So I'm happy to help where needed. The only concern is that I'm moving back to FL next weekend, so that will be a few days without any practice. Still, I think I can help out.

These are all tricky pieces, though. I can do Butterfly and Brooklet. smile
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#2136467 - 08/21/13 08:31 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Morodiene]
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Originally Posted By: Morodiene
Originally Posted By: Dipsy
ALL HANDS ON DECK PLEASE! WE NEED YOU!


Beric, who was to do 5 pieces, and had them ready to be recorded had to have an emergency operation on his right hand yesterday and won't be able to take part in the recital (unless he plays just the left hand parts!!)

We now need homes for FIVE pieces, so any of you looking on from the sidelines who wanted to take part, but found that nothing suitable was left, - here' your chance to be a hero/heroine

The pieces are:

OPUS 43 no 1 - Butterfly (its a beauty)
OPUS 54 no 1 - Shepherd's Boy
OPUS 57 no4 - Secret
OPUS 62 no 4 - Brooklet
OPUS 68 no 6 - Melancholy Waltz.

We've become a strong supportive community over the last few months - but now its being tested as never before. Lets show how a band of disparate piano players scattered across the globe, can come together as a team as never before to face the challenge.

(Winston Churchill eat your heart out - 'we shall fight them on the beaches, we shall fight them in their privvies (no, not really - just cracking up!)...... )

Oh no! Please let Beric know that I'm praying for his speedy recovery!

I was just thinking last night that the more of these Grieg pieces I do, the more I enjoy playing them. I was also thinking that I have worked on 8 lyric pieces (including ones I had played prior to this recital), and that it would be kind of cool to try to play and record them all over a period of a year or something. So I'm happy to help where needed. The only concern is that I'm moving back to FL next weekend, so that will be a few days without any practice. Still, I think I can help out.

These are all tricky pieces, though. I can do Butterfly and Brooklet. smile


BUTTERFLY AND BROOKLET Going once, going twice, GONE to the lady in Florida!


THANK YOU Morodiene!!!!!


Remaining pieces:
OPUS 54 no 1 - Shepherd's Boy
OPUS 57 no4 - Secret
OPUS 68 no 6 - Melancholy Waltz.
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#2136494 - 08/21/13 09:37 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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For years I've wanted to learn the Holberg Suite, but never really felt ready for it. If I'm not ready after this, I don't know what it would take! laugh
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#2136503 - 08/21/13 09:54 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Hmm, I have a question about pedaling for the French Serenade, op 62 No 3. Does anyone have an edition other than Peters (Dover) for this? That is the only one available on imslp.org as well.

Here's the edition I'm looking at, it's the 3rd piece:

http://petrucci.mus.auth.gr/imglnks/usim...s_8184_scan.pdf

In measure 3, Grieg clearly indicates the LH play a two-note slur and making the 2nd note staccato. However, there is a pedal marking for the entire measure. This is pretty consistent throughout the piece except in instances where the chord changes mid-measure (i.e., m. 4). Still, there is no Pedal up marking to indicate the staccato should be heard. Judging from his other pieces, the pedal markings are pretty specific/precise - as in m.12 of this piece, where he clearly wants a lift before the next idea with no pedal.

I've listened to recordings of this done fairly dry and I don't care for it, but I was wondering if another edition perhaps indicated it should be that way.
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#2136516 - 08/21/13 10:20 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Beric, if you're reading this post, you already know I wish you a speedy recovery.

Thanks Morodiene, you're always so generous. I'm sorry, but I can't give you any advice about your pedaling question, as I only use those artifacts by ear. But who knows, maybe I'll be able to offer a good piece of advice on the piano someday smile
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#2136531 - 08/21/13 10:54 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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My edition is the Dover...same as yours Morodiene.. sorry.
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