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So i ran into a big problem.. I reinstalled windows and kontakt etc.
I previously got Minihost to work with ASIO4ALL In the last windows. worked fine with my integrated audio card
Now, I'm using the Presonus audiobox, with the latest drivers and it only gives me static when pressing a note.
what's going on?
What do i do? help? I need to get this up and running asap
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I will only be guessing now but -- is the "latest" driver the same you used before? If not, try using the older driver if you can still find it. Or try to see if there are known issues when using this configuration.
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1. Is it the case that when you use the Kontakt standalone player (no minihost) you can play through the presonus with no problems? If so then I guess minihost is the culprit. I'm going to assume not for the rest of this post.
2. Is it complete static, or is it a note with static and pops and clicks?
If it is a note but with a ton of pops and clicks, it could be that your audio buffer is set to low or your interface is not running in ASIO mode or something.
If it's pure static, it sounds like your presonus software and/or hardware is not working. Most likely a configuration issue but it's not easy to diagnose from here.
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My audio buffer Is set to 128. It's a note with alotttttttt. Of static and pops.
How do I fix this? Worked fine with the integrated sound card and ASIO4ALL
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First increase the audio buffer until you stop getting static but no higher. Then look at how much latency is applied under that setting and let us know what it is.
Also, 128 can mean something very different if you are operating in 16/44 mode vs 24/96. For that reason you should report your latency in milliseconds. Either way it seems like quite a small audio buffer.
If the lowest buffer that doesn't result in static is more than 10-12 milliseconds or so then your system is not functioning properly. Otherwise you just had your buffer set too small.
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Ms is 3.7
I didn't realize recording was different to playing. will increase the buffer size then.
See if that resolves the issue
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Just upped the buffer size and latency in kontakt is 12.7.
The sound is exactly the same.
It doesn't even sound like a piano. You ca hear the notes but it sounds like midi, static and pops.
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Using kontakt alone the sound is fine. Using minihost is not working. Any suggestions?
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Have you configured minihost correctly to use your audio interface?
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I had similar issues with my Scarlette setup that gives lots intermittent clicks and turn out the problem is in power setting for the cpu. Make sure your power setting is on high performance. and you need to disable the onboard soundcard via the control panel. If its driver conflict, you can use this to check for latency source and conflict. http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
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Do you have MiniHost configured correctly? Here are some screen shots: SETTING UP THE ASIO DRIVERChoose the AudioBox USB ASIO driver Set up the ASIO SETTING UP THE MIDI CONNECTIONChoose MIDI -> Configure MIDI Ports ... Check off the box marked Presonus AudioBox MIDI (I also have Loop Midi installed, hence the extra three ports. Ignore them in this picture.)
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Did all of the above. Same problem. Sigh.
Should I just find an alternative program?
Currently downloading ableton live free 30 day trial
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Any other ideas?
Should I install ASIO4ALL and try to use it with the presonus?
It probably is a driver issue.
Works perfect with kontakt alone. Only when using minihost it sounds terrible.
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If it works with Kontakt but not MiniHost, it's probably NOT a driver issue.
I used to use MiniHost, but it only allows one VST instrument at a time. So I switched to Presonus Studio One, which handles multiple VST plugins. Have you tried that?
How about VST Host? (I found it too tedious, but it works.)
How about asHost? (It worked for me until I moved to Win 7/64-bit.)
BTW ... what pianos are you loading into MiniHost?
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Yeah, trying a different VST host might be a good idea, as MacMacMac suggests.
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Ok I will do so.
MacMacMac. I am loading vintage D into kontakt but all of them have the same problem with minihost.
Will try another one. Is the presonus one free?
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Ok so I downloaded Presonus one free.... Just wondering how the Heck do you use this thing? I want to record Galaxy Vintage D. Thats all I desire. Not gonna add second instruments yet. Just wanna record my piano
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When I run Vintage D (or any of the Kontakt-based pianos) under a VST host, I have to first load the Kontakt VST plugin. In my installation, Kontakt has THREE .dll files in the vstplugins folder. IIRC, they're called Kontakt.dll, Kontakt8.dll, and Kontak16.dll (or something similar). Not knowing which to use, I just chose Kontakt.dll. Which one do you load?
Also, when I moved to Windows 7/64-bit, Kontakt put .dll files in TWO places: C:\Program Files\vstplugins (for the 64-bit) dlls, and C:\Program Files (x86)\vstplugins (for the 32-bit plugins). Which ones are you using? IIRC, I'm using the ones in Program Files (x86).
After loading Kontakt into the VST host, I use the Kontakt window (inside the VST host) to load the piano(s), just like in Kontakt's standalone mode. Is that what you're doing?
Also, what are your objectives? I ask that because: If Kontakt works for you in standalone mode, why even bother with a VST host?
Also, I cannot answer your questions about recording. I don't record anything. Whether Kontakt or MiniHost or Studio One has the ability to record, I simply don't know. Sorry.
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