Could Glenn Gould Have Beaten Cliburn At the 1958 Tchaikov?

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Re: Could Glenn Gould Have Beaten Cliburn At the 1958 Tchaikov? Ian_G #2138735 08/25/13 11:45 AM
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OP J Joe Townley 500 Post Club Member J Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 560 Los Angeles	Originally Posted by Ian_G Gould played all sorts of stuff privately, like Au bord d'une source, Chopin's F# Impromptu, etc. His later handling of romantic music is a bit like his trying to square the circle (except Brahms), but back when his blood was still running hot, he was a beast and would have shocked the Russians with Chopin just as with Bach and Webern: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgEaQo_7Bu8 I was agape until I read the comment underneath explaining that that recording was a joke. Gould played the top hand with 1,2,3 while his friend played the left hand. That's not to say he couldn't do it, but in this case it's likely he didn't. We'll never know. Townley: Piano Concerto No 2 in C Minor Op 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK1WR7oPY44

Re: Could Glenn Gould Have Beaten Cliburn At the 1958 Tchaikov? J Joe Townley #2138737 08/25/13 11:57 AM
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boo1234 500 Post Club Member B Joined: May 2009 Posts: 722	Originally Posted by Joey Townley [quote=pianoloverus][quote=Joey Townley] But I'll ask the question again for those who might have missed it: has a concerto other the Tchaikovsky 1st/Rachmaninoff 2nd & 3rd ever won a pianist 1st prize in the Tchaikovsky/Cliburn competitions? THis year's cliburn was won with prokofiev 3 and mozart 21.

Re: Could Glenn Gould Have Beaten Cliburn At the 1958 Tchaikov? boo1234 #2139123 08/26/13 09:35 AM
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worov Full Member W Joined: May 2008 Posts: 178 Paris	Quote Has Gould ever played (or attempted to play) a Rach or Tchaik or Prok concerto? To my knowledge, Gould hasn't performed any of these concertos. However he recorded a Prokofiev sonata : On the cover of the album, you can see he also recorded Scriabin, Chopin and Mendelsson.

Re: Could Glenn Gould Have Beaten Cliburn At the 1958 Tchaikov? worov #2139159 08/26/13 11:06 AM
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laguna_greg 1000 Post Club Member Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,906 guess where in CA and WA	MY GOD!!! The guy was a machine. I never thought to hear counterpoint in that piece, but there it is. I really don't think I'd like his Tchaik or Rach at all.

Re: Could Glenn Gould Have Beaten Cliburn At the 1958 Tchaikov? J Joe Townley #2139171 08/26/13 11:34 AM
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BDB Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member B Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,060 Oakland	There is a lot of counterpoint in Prokofiev's 7th, beginning with the close canon in the first movement. I do not think Gould's is a particularly good version. The range of dynamics seems terribly constricted. Semipro Tech

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