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#2142501 - 09/01/13 09:21 PM Is it a good idea to switch daily between grand and keyboard
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I do not know if anyone has the same issue, but here is the situation: For night practice, my grand is loud. With proper treatment of floor and wall, with string felt and cover felt, and with my soft play, I can lower my piano's volume down to 60db, which is unfortunately still too loud to disturb my family at night. Therefore I am thinking about doing my night practice on a yamaha keyboard with volume dialed way down.

So my question is --- Is this a good idea? For example, the two instruments have very different touch. Is it a good idea for a beginner to switch daily between them?

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#2142505 - 09/01/13 09:31 PM Re: Is it a good idea to switch daily between grand and keyboard [Re: jc201306]
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So long as you have regular, frequent access to a good acoustic piano, I don't think you'd be seriously hurting anything (it sounds like you would be practicing on both on a daily basis). Be sure your bench and keyboard height are as close to the acoustic piano as possible.
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#2142515 - 09/01/13 09:56 PM Re: Is it a good idea to switch daily between grand and keyboard [Re: jc201306]
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The world will not end if you switch between a keyboard and piano.
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#2142516 - 09/01/13 10:00 PM Re: Is it a good idea to switch daily between grand and keyboard [Re: jc201306]
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It's a very common solution when being considerate of others.

TD made a very good point about the keyboard and bench heights. With practice, you will have no problems switching between the two different actions.

Play away! Headphones might be a good idea, too.
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#2142607 - 09/02/13 01:23 AM Re: Is it a good idea to switch daily between grand and keyboard [Re: jc201306]
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Some time ago, this question came up on the Teacher's Forum, and the concensus was the if the student switched between acoustic and digital, the teachers could not really tell that a student practices on a digital, but if a student only practiced on a digital, most of the teachers could tell.
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#2142613 - 09/02/13 01:44 AM Re: Is it a good idea to switch daily between grand and keyboard [Re: jc201306]
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Originally Posted By: jc201306
I do not know if anyone has the same issue, but here is the situation: For night practice, my grand is loud. With proper treatment of floor and wall, with string felt and cover felt, and with my soft play, I can lower my piano's volume down to 60db, which is unfortunately still too loud to disturb my family at night. Therefore I am thinking about doing my night practice on a yamaha keyboard with volume dialed way down.

So my question is --- Is this a good idea? For example, the two instruments have very different touch. Is it a good idea for a beginner to switch daily between them?



I'd say just don't worry about it. What's important is that you're playing. If you're playing on a variety if instruments with different touch and tone it just means you're getting experience feeling what it's like to be a professional musician smile

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#2143224 - 09/03/13 02:37 AM Re: Is it a good idea to switch daily between grand and keyboard [Re: jc201306]
zerox61 Offline
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Registered: 03/08/12
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I always switch between the two.. I got a SK7 and a P105 and never have problems switching back and fourth (although the SK7 blows the P105 a million miles away in terms of playability and sound)


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#2143668 - 09/03/13 09:06 PM Re: Is it a good idea to switch daily between grand and keyboard [Re: jc201306]
Aaron Garner Offline
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I dumped my ex-wife because I couldn't practice on my acoustic grand at night. Seriously, it won't hurt you to switch back and forth. Maybe work on getting the notes and fingerings on the keyboard and the musical part on the acoustic piano. I have a keyboard in my office and when a student isn't pestering me about how to resolve a French sixth chord, I'm usually woodshedding on my digital piano. At home of course I can work on pieces at a different level.

Now that I think about it, I dumped two ex-wifes because I couldn't practice; obviously I didn't learn.
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#2143689 - 09/03/13 10:03 PM Re: Is it a good idea to switch daily between grand and keyboard [Re: jc201306]
Ahmediy Offline
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Registered: 04/27/13
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I go with what AJF says, we should get used to a variety of different touch pianos.
A player who can make any piano sound well is better than a player who can just make one type of piano sound well.

And I would do lots of things to have zerox61 piano room!

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#2143863 - 09/04/13 05:42 AM Re: Is it a good idea to switch daily between grand and keyboard [Re: jc201306]
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As one who only has a digital at home to practise on (I periodically also play on real grands), I'd say that if you're only using your keyboard to practise finger technique, it probably doesn't matter what volume you set it at, but if you're learning to play a piece on it, you need to use headphones, and put the volume up to the correct level, otherwise you'll mess up your control of tone and touch.

I see this frequently in children who learn mostly on digitals - when they then play on a real piano, they can't play softly, their tone and touch is uneven, and they thump rather than caress the keys. Because they set the volume on their digitals so unrealistically low, they get away with it. But not on real pianos. And believe me, trying to unlearn bad habits like these can be very difficult.

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