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#2146059 - 09/07/13 10:48 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: ShiroKuro]
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I am totally possessed.


Einaudi has that effect on people. laugh You might as well just give in and buy all his albums and all his sheet music collections, because you're going to come to that eventually.
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#2146082 - 09/07/13 11:33 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: ShiroKuro]
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Originally Posted By: ShiroKuro
Ugh. I just bought Oltremare. (thank you, SheetMusicDirect). I am totally possessed.

But I can't start it until Nov. Because I'll be doing Nefeli in Oct. laugh

La Linea Sicura isn't giving me too many problems... I'm even following the pedal markings (even though I don't like them very much on my digital, but this way when I play an acoustic I won't feel awkward).

If I don't finish my dissertation, it will be Ludovico's fault.


Ohhhh you'll LOVE Oltremare!!! I have almost *got it* and adore playing it many many times a day just for the beauty of it.
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#2146085 - 09/07/13 11:34 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Monica K.]
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Originally Posted By: Monica K.
Originally Posted By: ShiroKuro
I am totally possessed.


Einaudi has that effect on people. laugh You might as well just give in and buy all his albums and all his sheet music collections, because you're going to come to that eventually.


Yeah getting to think that....
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#2147623 - 09/10/13 02:24 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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I just noticed that Einaudi will be part of the iTunes Festival in London... you can see the concert in live streaming using iTunes on the 17th!

http://www.classicfm.com/composers/einaudi/news/einaudi-play-itunes-festival-2013/
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#2148042 - 09/11/13 05:24 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Thanks for sharing, sinophilia.
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#2148439 - 09/11/13 07:53 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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I finally got an okay take of "Underwood." I'm not planning on using it for a recital, so I thought I'd post it here for archival purposes. In terms of just the notes, this is probably one of the easiest pieces in the Time Lapse collection, but (good grief!) getting a clean take was next to impossible. I kept skipping notes while trying to play ppp--further evidence that these "simple" delicate pieces are sometimes more challenging than a "busier" piece.

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#2148447 - 09/11/13 08:08 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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#2148598 - 09/12/13 04:58 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Very good Monica.
Einaudi's music is harder than it seems. The delicacy of the touch and the transpose of the feelings are difficult to get, but you did a great job.

I'm still working on "Two Trees". I decided to play it after listening your contribution for the last recital.
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#2148608 - 09/12/13 05:45 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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That was really lovely Monica smile
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#2148614 - 09/12/13 06:13 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Thank you for sharing Underwood, Monica. It was really beautiful! I play it a lot (it was the second piece I learned from In a Time Lapse after Orbits), but I have never recorded it. You have inspired me to do so. I also wanted to thank you for recommending Nevue a while back. I purchased some sheet music from him when you made the recommendation but didn't play all of the pieces (I just did Solitude). After a long and very unpleasant day at work, I whipped out Wonderland and managed to play through it somewhat musically by the end of the evening. What a remarkable mood changer that was smile
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#2149086 - 09/12/13 10:43 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Monica, very nice! Thanks for sharing the video, I always find your videos so inspiring!

Also, what Carlos said is worth repeating, especially
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Einaudi's music is harder than it seems.


I had my piano lesson today and I played La Linea Sicura for my piano teacher (maybe I'll write about that later) but it's a similar situation. Note-wise, it could not be easier, but then, there's a lot more than just the notes...
smile


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#2149182 - 09/13/13 03:31 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Last weekend, my parents came over and I played a few pieces I've been working on. One of them was Life. My father called Einaudi "the trance of piano." Not sure what to think of that...
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#2149187 - 09/13/13 03:59 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Allard]
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Last weekend, my parents came over and I played a few pieces I've been working on. One of them was Life. My father called Einaudi "the trance of piano." Not sure what to think of that...

"Tance of piano"? I like that! smile
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#2149957 - 09/14/13 10:38 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Not sure if I would call Einaudi the "trance of piano," since I think of trance as not having a clear melody line, but if it's trance as in "mesmerizing," then definitely yes! smile

So I played La Linea Sicura at my lesson the other day. I originally wasn't going to, since note-wise it's so easy. But I'm glad I did, first because I got to play it on a very nice acoustic grand( (unlike my piano, which is a digital). I'm glad I've been playing it with the una corda pedal at home, so that I could experience just how beautiful it is on an acoustic. Also, we talked about voicing and having a quiet thumb (RH) which is a little difficult, so that was very helpful! And my teacher thought it was really beautiful, so maybe I can turn her into an Einaudi convert! laugh

BTW, a while back I was writing about being worried that this piece might bring on hand cramps in the RH for me. Well, it never did, I don't know why exactly, but I think it's because the RH also has the melody (unlike Tiersen's LH part in Comptine...) and maybe I'm just better at being relaxed these days (that would be nice, but I'm not sure that's really it!)

I also showed my teacher Oltremare and had her give me some tips for working on the triplets, the ones that start on page 4 (at least of the sheet music I got from SheetMusicDirect), where it's 3 against 2. Since it's fast-ish, and 3 against 2, my plan is just to play that first section (basically almost all of page 4) for a few weeks before starting on anything else in the piece.

And I also bought the solo arrangement of Nightbook. I've lost my mind! whome
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#2149990 - 09/14/13 11:41 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Thanks for sharing your experience, ShiroKuro. Can you share some tips your teacher gave to you?

Btw, I don't have any personal interest in this online store, but I bought all my Einaudi's books here: BookDepository: Einaudi

They are cheaper than other sellers, and they have free shipping worldwide.
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#2150162 - 09/14/13 05:47 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Carlos, we talked about bringing out the melody line (RH pinkie) while keeping the RH thumb quiet, but still having a fairly good tempo. Paying attention to the melody that comes in on the second beat of the measure and carries over to the first beat of the next measure (those whole notes), so instead of hearing a melody made of 2-3-4, it's 2-3-4-1 (does that make sense, I don't have the score here! But the point is that the phrasing isn't written that way, but if you focus on playing that phrase and having it lead into the next measure, that makes a big difference. So there's a pulse that sort of starts on the down beat of the measure, that is in large part created by the LH, but there's also that phrase that carries you through into the next measure, and that's the kind of voicing we focused on.

Also, there are dynamic markings in the score, so we talked about really focusing on playing those as written (instead of just playing the notes, as it were). Dynamics are big issue for me since I practice on a digital, so just being able to play her piano and hear it was really wonderful.

She said that this piece in particular really is designed to take advantage of the piano as an instrument, as a huge instrument with vibration and pulse as opposed to a keyboard that might be somewhat percussive. And so a big part of that is using the una corda to change the sound color, then releasing it to create intensity and fullness.... She was somewhat more articulate in her explanations, but maybe this conveys some of it.

I am just glad I played it during our lesson, since I really almost wasn't going to, because it's not like I need technical guidance with it.... but because the piece is so easy, it was a good vehicle to talk about musicality....

Thanks for the link BTW. A quick look didn't seem like it was much of a discount, I tend to compare SheetMusicPlus.com and Amazon if I'm buying physical scores, and then I compare SheetMusicPlus and SheetMusicDirect for digital scores (SMD is almost always cheaper).

I think i am going to get the score for Earth Prelude, and then I am NOT buying any more scores for a year. No, really, I mean it! whome
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#2151355 - 09/16/13 02:57 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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I'm currently working on Brothers. It just fills me with so much energy! The only problem is that I cannot possibly concentrate on the Clementi sonatina - or any other music really - that my teacher invited me to try laugh.

The notes are easy, but the syncopated rhythm takes some getting used to. My piano also won't be quite enough in the bass. It might be time for an upgrade already. Need better bass notes!
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#2151677 - 09/16/13 10:38 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: ShiroKuro]
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I think i am going to get the score for Earth Prelude, and then I am NOT buying any more scores for a year. No, really, I mean it! whome


Are you sure?! The arrangement of "Berlin Song" is just gorgeous. And I have to say that I am playing more from the "Time Lapse" collection than any other single album of his. wink
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#2151728 - 09/17/13 12:06 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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I'm doomed... laugh

So, are you suggesting I am going to need all the specific score collects, instead of just buying the scorebook for Islands? (it's only about $15 on Amazon, not that I was checking or anything... whome
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#2151885 - 09/17/13 05:16 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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I started working on "Two Trees". I'm already halfway through and I can see the "intelligence" of Einaudi ... The chords are very well crafted.
Monica can confirm that this piece is more difficult than it seems. Especially for me because I have small hands. But I will not give up. The music is wonderful.

ShiroKuro, do you want my opinion? Buy the books!
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#2152111 - 09/17/13 12:02 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: ShiroKuro]
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Originally Posted By: ShiroKuro
I'm doomed... laugh

So, are you suggesting I am going to need all the specific score collects, instead of just buying the scorebook for Islands? (it's only about $15 on Amazon, not that I was checking or anything... whome



Honestly, I would advise buying "The Best of" collection, which has *everything* from his early piano solo albums, and then buying the individual songbooks for all the later albums (namely: Una Mattina, Divenire, Nightbook, and In a Time Lapse). "Islands" is missing too many good pieces, and it doesn't have anything from "In a Time Lapse."

...but then again, I'm good at spending other people's money. wink
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#2152192 - 09/17/13 01:39 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Just to add some information about the books:
I was doing a research about the duplicated pieces on the books. I wanted to have the highest number of unique pieces with the less number of books (just because I'm not swimming in money).
This research was done before "In a Time Lapse" book but this last book has only originals. So, no duplicates.

So I concluded that buying 4 books I could have 66 unique pieces (and then, more 19 with "In a Time Lapse"). So I have now a total of 5 books, and 85 unique pieces. There are few duplicates but I think this is the best combination to save some money:
5 books X ~€15 = €75
=> €75/85 pieces = €0,88 cents per piece

Just for reference:
The Best of Ludovico Einaudi - ISBN: 9780634078910
Bella Notte
Canzone Popolare (1500 ca.)
Dietro L'Incanto
Due Tramonti (c/ acomp.)
Exit
Fuori Dal Mondo
Fuoria Dalla Notte
Giorni Dispari
I Due Fiumi
I Giorni
In Un'Altra Vita
Inizio
Julia
La Lina Scura
La Nascita Delle Cose Segrete
La Profndità Del Buio
Le Onde
Le Onde - Canzone Popolare (Francia 1500ca.)
Limbo
Lontano
L'Ultima volta
Melodia Africana I
Melodia Africana II
Melodia Africana III
Melodia Africana IV
Nefeli
Ombre
Onde Corte
Passaggio
Password
Quel Che Resta
Questa Notte
Samba
Sotto Vento
Stella Del Mattino
Tracce
Un Mondo a Parte


Islands - Essential Einaudi - ISBN: 9781780382357
High Heels
Indaco
Monday
Nuvole Bianche
Ancora
Andare
Berlin Song
Dietro Casa
Divenire
I Giorni
Fairytale
Le Onde
Lady Labyrinth
L'Origine Nascosta
Love is a Mystery
Nefeli
Nightbook
Primavera
The Earth Prelude


Ludovico Einaudi Nightbook - ISBN: 9781849383394
In principio
Indaco
Snow prelude no 15
Tu Sei
Berlin Song
Bye bye Moon amour
Lady Labyrinth
Nightbook
Planets
Reverie
Tower


Ludovico Einaudi - Divenire - ISBN 9781846098420
Monday
Andare
Ascolta
Divenire
Fly
L'Origine Nascosta
Luce
Oltremare
Primavera
Ritornare
Rose


Ludovico Einaudi - In a Time Lapse - ISBN 9781783050062
Bever  
Brothers  
Burning  
Corale  
Corale Solo  
Discovery at Night  
Experience  
Life  
Newton's Cradle  
Orbits  
Ronald's Dream  
Run  
Sarabande  
The Dark Bank of Clouds  
Time Lapse  
Two Trees  
Underwood  
Walk  
Waterways  
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#2152203 - 09/17/13 01:57 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Monica, I purchased the Best Of maybe a year ago (on your very excellent advice! :)And let me say that it was one of the better purchases I've ever made! But now that I'm listening to Islands, I want the Earth Prelude, and so on and so forth, so I figured I'd just get the book instead of buying one piece after another (I already bought Oltermare as a single score, oops).

Carlos, that list is very helpful, thanks for posting it! Maybe I'll buy the Island book now, and get one of the others next year...

BTW, I flipped around my plan for the pieces I'm working on. I put of Nefeli on hold until October or November, right now I'm playing just page 4 from Oltremare and when I start Nefeli will depend on how the rest of Oltremare goes.

Re Oltremare, I can't figure out how to speed up the triplets without the 3 against 2 coming apart, but I'll be taking that to my teacher this week, so maybe I'll get some good advice.

I'm guessing this has been discussed here before, but as I was looking through my repertoire, it occurred to me that some Einaudi pieces are like "gateway drugs" laugh in that they make Einaudi's work more accessible to you, but also make you more obsessed with getting more of his work in your fingers. For me, the order of pieces for becoming an Einaudi maniac fan was:
I Due Fiumi
I Giorni
Le Onde

Having worked on those, La Linea Sicura seemed very easy, and other pieces seem possible. Let's see how I do with Oltremare! smile

Monica and Carlos, which Einaudi piece did you two play as your "gateway" piece?


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#2152274 - 09/17/13 03:45 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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If I understood what you mean with "gateway drugs", I would choose without any doubt:
- "Snow prelude no 15" followed by "In principio"
I use to play them immediately one after the other. For sure, those are two pieces that leave me in "trance".

But, there are other pieces... it's simply a matter of mood.
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#2152298 - 09/17/13 04:34 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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It was probably "Nefeli." (It *should* have been "I due fiumi," but I didn't discover that one--thanks, Carlos!--until after I had already worked on and recorded quite a few others.) I had started with either "Exit" or "Limbo," but while I was pleased with how easy those were, they didn't grab my heart the way "Nefeli" did. And then I was hopelessly hooked. heart
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#2152941 - 09/18/13 11:33 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Sinophilia posted about Einaudi playing in the iTunes Festival a little while ago... I just now had the chance to watch the show. It is absolutely fantastic.

If you have iTunes, here's how you find it: on the home page of the iTunes store click on "iTunes Festival", then click on "line up", and look for Einaudi in the alphabetical list. You can click on his name to watch his iTunes concert (for free). The whole thing is amazing, but the live version here of "Waterways" (starts at about 5:55) is indescribably beautiful. wow Just when I think he can't possibly make his music more lovely, he creates these new arrangements. And just watching his face while he was playing was incredibly moving.

I don't know if iTunes will keep the show footage up past September, so if you want to look it up, do so sooner rather than later.

I couldn't find anything to suggest that it was possible to buy and/or download the video to keep permanently--does anybody know if that's possible and/or how to do so? I'd love to keep that live version of Waterways forever. heart
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#2153632 - 09/19/13 10:09 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Monica, thanks for the heads up about the iTunes concert, I'll have to make time to watch it!

I can see why you were captured by Nefeli, I'm looking forward to starting it soon!

I also have put Nuvole Bianche on my lists of piece to add to my Einaudi repertoire. Yes, I am a hopepless case! smile

Edited to add: I guess that means at the very least I want need to buy the Islands scorebook soon! grin


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#2154305 - 09/20/13 09:38 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Hi Einaudi fans
I'm just back playing regularly in the last few months and doing lessons in the last few weeks.
I've been working on I Giorni, and I had exactly the same experience as you described Monica when I played for my teacher this week - I was trying to really work on the dynamics and the expression, and found that several times notes that I tried to play pp just didn't sound at all (digital piano, which my teacher thought might have been relevant).
This is my first Einaudi, but it won't be my last. I need to master the coda section and polish the whole lot up but I've really enjoyed the experience of learning and playing this piece.
I know there is a list somewhere that grades Einaudi pieces by difficulty - my next selection should be from "Islands" (since I bought the book) and not significantly harder than I Giorni (I want something I can get to grips with in weeks rather than months).
I'll be reading back over this thread for ideas!
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#2154353 - 09/20/13 11:13 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Hi barbaram, and welcome to PW! smile
Nice to know that you want to work with Einaudi pieces thumb

There is a "kind of" list of pieces by difficulty... I remembered to write here in PW about it.
Check this posts: Talking about Ludovico pieces
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#2154403 - 09/20/13 12:19 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Yes thanks Monica for the heads up of the concert on iTunes Festival. Nearly two hours worth too, had to be dragged away from it. Duties and chores were languishing. Oh, and practice!

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