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#2149744 - 09/13/13 11:09 PM Quick Trills Question
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Registered: 08/21/13
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I decided to learn Bach's Invention #1 (BWV 772), and have been working on it for about a week.

1) I can bong out either hand alone sort of OK, including the trills.

2) Both hands are starting to come together, and can probably get this marginally together soon, but without the trills. Because of my poor L/R independence, the trills trip me up when using both hands.

So my question is: Would I be better off practicing the piece and getting up to speed without the trills, then add the trills? Or is is better to slow down to a crawl until I can do each trill, then get up to speed with the trills included?

Which order of progression is better? Ideas welcome, thanks!
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#2149747 - 09/13/13 11:21 PM Re: Quick Trills Question [Re: Psychonaut]
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I definitely wouldn't do option 1. But I wouldn't exactly do 2 either.

What I would do is work on the trills 10 times more than the rest of the piece. But there's no harm in getting the rest of the piece up to speed.

And give it time. Trills take time and I've found I generally can't improve them when working on one piece, but the next is easier. My trills in the Chopin Nocturne I did, right after Bach Invention number 4, are soooo much better. Hmm, well, no left hand trills in the Nocturne ... but the right hand ones are better.
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#2149755 - 09/13/13 11:39 PM Re: Quick Trills Question [Re: Andy Platt]
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Originally Posted By: Andy Platt

What I would do is work on the trills 10 times more than the rest of the piece. But there's no harm in getting the rest of the piece up to speed.


This sounds like sage advice to me, thanks! I can have practice sessions where I focus on the trill measures exclusively, but also continue to work on getting the rest of the work up to speed too. There's no reason, when I think about it, it has to be one or the other.

It does mean that I'd be running through the piece sometimes at multiple tempos, but I guess there's nothing inherently wrong with that as long as I eventually get fluid with the whole.

Thanks again...
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