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#2150056 - 09/14/13 01:38 PM European Piano Party 2014 LISBON
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As you know, I'll have the privilege to organize the next European Piano Party (EPP2014).
Lisbon will be the location and I'm sure you'll have a good time in my home town. Recently Lisbon won the category of "Europe's Leading City Break Destination 2013" of the World Travel Wards organization, so I think it's perfect for an unforgettable weekend.

Info about World Travel Awards here: http://www.worldtravelawards.com/award-europes-leading-city-break-destination-2013
Info about Lisbon (in English): http://www.visitlisboa.com/Conteudos/Menu-Principal/Home.aspx?lang=en-GB
btw: We will try to organize some "guide tours" of the Lisbon region.

Some updates:
- I was thinking about using the Art Center of my company to do our EPP2014. It has plenty of space and a piano. I just have to speak with the right person.
- On the other hand, a friend of mine is the RH director of a nice hotel in Lisbon. He told me that they can do a special rate for groups and, probably, they will *offer* the piano hall for us during a day. He'll check the best date, but It all depends on the number of guests...
- About the date: UEFA Champions League final will be in Lisbon, in May, so he advice us to do our EPP2014 after this event. The hotel rates are too high in May because of that football match.
- Next week I'll be in contact with Yamaha Iberia to understand what type of support they can offer.

Now, the decisions:
1st) Event date: never before May. I propose, June 2014.
2nd) Participants:
- CarlosCC +2 / +3
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Have a nice weekend!
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#2150058 - 09/14/13 01:47 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Since I didn't participate this year I'm definitely interested to come 2014. It will be a great advantage for me, however, to know exact days as early as possible. June is fine for me.

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#2150060 - 09/14/13 01:54 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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June should be fine for us.

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#2150071 - 09/14/13 02:15 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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I really, really want to come, but I'm a little wary of taking a plane entirely on my own. The farthest I've gone alone was Paris, by train, and on my way back I got booted off that train (and taken to a hospital by ambulance, somewhat against my will) because I'd had a seizure.

Obviously, I can't be booted off a plane if I have a seizure mid-flight, but there are still plenty of things that could go wrong in a city I don't know (and where nobody knows me) if I don't have someone with me who at least knows that I have epilepsy, and what (not) to do, should something unexpected happen.

I'm sure that once I'm there, we can make group arrangements for where to stay and what to do, so that I'll never be on my own for too long. But I think I can really only come if there's someone else who will be flying from Brussels.

Maybe that means I have to provide my own chaperone. But maybe not: is there anyone else on PW who would have to come through Brussels, and is planning to go to this EPP?

If I come, I would strongly prefer the final weekend of June, because before then I will have exams.

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#2150076 - 09/14/13 02:26 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: Saranoya]
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I am really looking forward to EP 2014! This year's party was such fun.

June works fine for us. We can make any weekend work with enough notice.

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#2150088 - 09/14/13 02:52 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Colour me interested. This year's party was even more fun than I had expected. June should be good.
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#2150161 - 09/14/13 05:46 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Saranoya - I don't know if there will be anyone from Brussels but I do know that airlines offer assistance (paid, obviously) - we have had it for my mother-in-law who was frail and slightly senile, and also for a friend who is blind who came to visit.

I'm sure that it would be possible to coordinate meeting up at the airport for arrivals if it ends up that you fly on your own with airline assistance.
Just a thought.
It would be great if you could join us!!!
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#2150190 - 09/14/13 06:17 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: casinitaly]
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Ok, so end of June is our target.
I don't want to exclude later weekends - like the beginning of July - but hotel rates are usually high from 15 July to 15 September.

Saranoya, I'm sorry about your epilepsy...
You're not going to be alone in Lisbon! I'll take special attention with you. Just make sure you bring your European Health Insurance Card http://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=559
I understand your concern, but Belgium is a central country, and I'm sure someone can catch a train to Brussels and then travel with you. Or, as Cheryl sugested, you can request airline assistance.

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#2150199 - 09/14/13 06:41 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Wow, Lisbon, what a temptation! And it's pretty near my city. Now I can't know if I'll be able to go there in june, but I'd like to join you all.
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#2150224 - 09/14/13 07:42 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: Recaredo]
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Originally Posted By: Recaredo
Wow, Lisbon, what a temptation! And it's pretty near my city. Now I can't know if I'll be able to go there in june, but I'd like to join you all.

C'mon Recaredo, at this distance I'm sure you can organize your life to come play with us thumb .
I bet you can make the trip by car.
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#2150370 - 09/15/13 03:43 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Early July would be ok for us too - but it would have to be the first weekend.

Love your list with flags Carlos! smile
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#2150375 - 09/15/13 04:05 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Originally Posted By: CarlosCC
Saranoya, I'm sorry about your epilepsy...


Well, don't be. It's part of life, and it's annoying, but you know what they say: if it doesn't kill you, it'll make you stronger.

I'm just mentioning it here because I hope some of the other Belgians (who expressed interest in the last EPP, but couldn't make it on such short notice) will come out of the woodwork and decide to join us. Voilà, problem solved smile.

The first weekend of July would be fine for me too, and actually even better than the final weekend of June.
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#2150390 - 09/15/13 05:22 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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At this point, the probable dates are:
28/29 June
06/07 July


Participant list (so far):


Cas, I knew you'd like the flags smile
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#2150463 - 09/15/13 09:24 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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I would like so much to participate! But I can't say anything yet, for me it all depends on my family planning.
It would be nice to take advantage of EPP and join a vacation for the whole family (Algarve, maybe? I've only visited Lisbon and a bit of northern Portugal more than 20 years ago). Otherwise, a weekend for four people would be too much expensive...
June maybe too early for us, better early July.
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#2150515 - 09/15/13 11:57 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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torquenale, one of the dates is the first weekend of July, and I think this will be the chosen date.
If you schedule the trip several months in advance, you'll get much more cheaper rates. And don't forget that kids under 12 usually are "free" guests in hotels.
You can go to Algarve and take the train to Lisbon. The ticket it's around 20 Euros per adult (maybe 10 euros per child?). It's a nice trip of 2h:30m from Algarve to Lisbon.

So, can I put your name in the "maybe" list...? Yes?
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#2151072 - 09/16/13 06:05 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hi CarlosCC

You can add me to the maybe list as well. It is difficult to know already now whether I can join but since I really liked EPP2013, I will do everything I can to attend next year.

My girlfriend might join too (as a guest, not to play piano).
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#2151075 - 09/16/13 06:24 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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OK MrPozor, you're in the list.

At this point, the probable dates are:
28/29 June
06/07 July


Participant list (so far):
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#2151078 - 09/16/13 06:32 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hi,

I'm definitely interested but can't make any promises just yet. Probably only as soon as march next year will I be bale to really confirm my attendance. If I go I can accompany Saranoya as I'm from Belgium too. But no promises just yet.

Kind regards,

Wouter.

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#2151145 - 09/16/13 09:28 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hi Wouter D'hoye, and welcome to PW!

Thanks for your interest and I'm glad with your offer to travel with Saranoya.
Don't forget to think and decide about your participation. The sooner you decide, the better is for us.

At this point, the probable dates are:
28/29 June
06/07 July


Participant list (so far):
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#2152397 - 09/17/13 07:16 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Awesome!

Carlos, I sense this is about to become the best-organised EPP yet wink. You are so methodical!

Carry on! laugh
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#2153047 - 09/18/13 02:52 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Originally Posted By: CarlosCC
So, can I put your name in the "maybe" list...? Yes?


Yes, definitely!
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#2153147 - 09/18/13 04:39 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Saranoya - I'll try to do my best! thumb
Torquenale - You are in the "maybe" list.

At this point, the probable dates are:
28/29 June, or
06/07 July

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#2153457 - 09/19/13 02:13 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Saranoya,

For me it's no problem to travel through Brussel with you. Although it's faster for me to fly directly from Amsterdam. So if there is no one at the party with Brussels as first airport, I would like to offer to accompany you.

Carlos, you can count me in for the party. Both dates are fine.
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#2153568 - 09/19/13 08:46 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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That's really kind, Chris (aka PaperClip)!
I suppose you can use the PM facility (inclunding Wouter D'hoye) to discuss the best solution. thumb

At this point, the probable dates are:
28/29 June, or
06/07 July

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#2153651 - 09/19/13 10:42 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Where's that "like" button!

Saranoya - looks like you have a travelling companion!!!!
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#2153836 - 09/19/13 02:34 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Originally Posted By: CarlosCC
Torquenale - You are in the "maybe" list.


Thanks! Also for me it's really early to confirm because our summer family planning usually takes place during springtime, but I've already checked that now cheap flights to Lisbon can be found...
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#2153875 - 09/19/13 03:46 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Yes Chris, that *is* extremely kind of you. No need for route changes if someone else (like Wouter) is flying from Brussels anyway (which I hope will be the case). But it's nice to know that there's a back-up option too smile.

I guess you can put me on the 'confirmed' list then, Carlos. But don't book your travel just yet, Chris. Someone closer might still come along.

Oh, and P.S.: Nit-picking here, but Allard has the wrong flag (he's from the Netherlands).


Edited by Saranoya (09/19/13 03:47 PM)
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#2153916 - 09/19/13 05:02 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Great news! The "confirmed" list is growing everyday.
Allard flag: fixed (sorry about that...)

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#2154159 - 09/20/13 01:19 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Thanks, wasn't looking forward to moving to Norway.
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#2154284 - 09/20/13 08:41 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: torquenale]
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Originally Posted By: torquenale
Also for me it's really early to confirm because our summer family planning usually takes place during springtime, but I've already checked that now cheap flights to Lisbon can be found...


ooooops.... my English sucks and, moreover, I forgot to add a little word: "too early to confirm".
I'll stay in the maybe list for a while...
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#2154296 - 09/20/13 09:17 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: Allard]
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Originally Posted By: Allard
Thanks, wasn't looking forward to moving to Norway.


Why not? We have lots of Dutch people in Norway, and in general they seem to enjoy living here. smile

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#2154343 - 09/20/13 10:41 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Maybe we can do Norway in 2016 smile (given that 2015 has been tagged for Italy :))
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#2154355 - 09/20/13 11:20 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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thumb
That would be awesome!
We always wanted to go to Norway.

Not to mention Italy. Ah, and casinitaly, my wife asks if it is really true that we are going to Italy next year in 2015... (I want to warn that she never forgets a promise..) wink


Edited by CarlosCC (09/20/13 11:31 AM)
Edit Reason: wrong year...
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#2154359 - 09/20/13 11:23 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Torquenale, there you go.

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#2154363 - 09/20/13 11:28 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Originally Posted By: CarlosCC
thumb
That would be awesome!
We always wanted to go to Norway.

Not to mention Italy. Ah, and casinitaly, my wife asks if it is really true that we are going to Italy next year... (I want to warn that she never forgets a promise..) wink


Italy was suggested for 2015.

We do have to take into consideration WHERE in Italy as it will be our Expo year. When we get close we can talk about the host city -or maybe move Italy to the following year. ....Let's see - but it is indeed on the list!
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#2154628 - 09/20/13 05:12 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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I'd love to come but won't know if I could go for months. It will very much depend on finances, which are very limited because of essential building work to my home (like hot running water).

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#2154650 - 09/20/13 05:52 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Would love to go to Norway after Italy next year. Beautiful country, but never been there. Still on my to do list.

@Dipsy: hmm, hot running water is important indeed.. Especially when it's essential for your heating system, heh.
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#2154659 - 09/20/13 06:06 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Yes hot water would be lovely.

I agree about Norway - the Grieg recital has made me aware of how jaw-droppingly beautiful it is - but I've heard its very expensive

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#2154703 - 09/20/13 07:20 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Helen, obviously hot water is a need, but it'd be great to see you in Lisbon wink
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#2154858 - 09/21/13 02:38 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Maybe for a short time being in a warm climate will compensate for the cold water! smile

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#2155019 - 09/21/13 01:17 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Well, it's funny to observe how you see my country smile
But it's true. We have a nice climate. Look what I found:

Lisbon Holiday Weather Overview
Lisbon boasts one of Europe's mildest climates and warmest winter (December to February) seasons. Weather in Lisbon during winter has daytime temperatures that average over 15°C and the city rarely sees snow. Summer (June to September) is Lisbon's driest and hottest season with average daytime temperatures peaking at 28°C in August. Spring (March to May) and autumn (October to November) Lisbon daytime temperatures range from 17°C to 22°C.

Lisbon, the capital city and largest city of Portugal, experiences a Subtropical-Mediterranean climate with fairly cold winters and hot summers.

Summer
Summer season in Lisbon starts in May and lasts till October. During this season the average high temperature in Lisbon stands at mid twenties while the low stays at 20°C. August is considered as the hottest month of the year with more than 30°C of average high temperature. It gets a very high level of sunshine; more than 360 hours in July. The season gets a much reduced level of rainfall as July remains the driest with 5mm of precipitation.

Winter
Throughout the winter months Lisbon receives abundant of rainfall as December, the wettest month of the year, receives around 120mm of precipitation. Although temperature drops in winter, it remains still fairly warm for the tourists. The average high often climbs to high teen while the low hardly falls below 10°C, as during January and February, the coldest months of the year, the average low temperature in Lisbon stands at 9.3°C. It is a year round destination, you may visit whenever you like albeit experienced tourist prefer the summer months to wet winter.


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#2155044 - 09/21/13 02:15 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: Dipsy]
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I'd love to come but won't know if I could go for months. It will very much depend on finances, which are very limited because of essential building work to my home (like hot running water).


Plumbing work?! In a stone house I imagine. You should just come to the US. Our houses are made of tissue paper fashioned into elaborate origami shapes and when the plumbing goes we just wad them up and buy a new one.
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#2157310 - 09/25/13 08:29 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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I'm searching for a location in Lisbon to do our EPP.
I'm also contacting some hotels to ask for group discounts. My idea is to find an hotel WITH group discounts AND a piano hall. That would be nice.

(Of course everybody is free to decide where to stay in Lisbon. I only want to find the best prices so you can decide for yourself.)

Let's wait for the responses.

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#2157455 - 09/25/13 01:22 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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That's great Carlos! I think it would be great fun if we could organize staying in the same hotel!

You are a master organizer, I can see!
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#2157601 - 09/25/13 06:08 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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#2157983 - 09/26/13 11:59 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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I think you should bring Mr. & Mrs. PianoWorld over as guests.
After all, it is a Piano World Piano Party :-)
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#2157986 - 09/26/13 12:03 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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I think this is coming along really well Carlos and look forward to watching this event unfold!!!

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#2157987 - 09/26/13 12:04 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: Piano World]
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I think you should bring Mr. & Mrs. PianoWorld over as guests.
After all, it is a Piano World Piano Party :-)



I don't think we have the funding to "bring you over" -but it would be a delight to have you join us!
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#2158085 - 09/26/13 02:55 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Yes Whizbang - (its a stone/brick/concrete house.) Maybe your origami US houses could be filled with little night lights, (like the chinese do with their paper lanterns). Then, filled with warm light, they could float up into the night sky and waft their way across the Atlantic to join in the party!

( I know I'm being fanciful, but what the heck!)

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#2158128 - 09/26/13 04:05 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: Dipsy]
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Originally Posted By: Dipsy
Yes Whizbang - (its a stone/brick/concrete house.) Maybe your origami US houses could be filled with little night lights, (like the chinese do with their paper lanterns). Then, filled with warm light, they could float up into the night sky and waft their way across the Atlantic to join in the party!

( I know I'm being fanciful, but what the heck!)



It would be a very unique way to travel... Since you arrive here in time for our party, for me, it's okay!
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#2158142 - 09/26/13 04:42 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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WOW, It's an honor to have the founder of PW with us. Looking forward to meet you in person! thumb




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#2159977 - 09/30/13 08:30 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Ok everyone - please note that the thread is now in the parties forum, ... let the planning continue!
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#2160131 - 09/30/13 03:43 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: casinitaly]
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Ok, I'll add to the confusion by saying: Yes, I am interested in attending; but I don't confirm yet. It's a matter of timing and resources and planning; Lisbon is not exactly around the corner. Plus, I don't speak Portuguese.
So right now I'll go for a 45% chance of me attending.

In case the odds increase: I would welcome if we could stay in one hotel; but it's not a requirement. If we stay in one hotel, I want a single room. If it's not possible, I'd look for a hotel on my own.

Anyway: Thanks to Carlos for organizing the event, and we'll hopefully see each other next year. smile
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#2160314 - 10/01/13 04:50 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hello patH! you are in the "maybe" list. Thanks for your interest!
And don't worry about the portuguese. Almost everybody has English as the second language.

I'm trying to get some group discounts so you could stay in the same hotel. It's not a promise, but I'll try.




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#2161117 - 10/03/13 09:34 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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I wish I could.... nothing really stopping me, except for the fact that I have never travelled much outside where I live nor do I have a passport so going alone to something like this would be a BIG jump laugh

That said I bet I would enjoy it if I ever did give it a shot!
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#2161151 - 10/03/13 11:17 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hi UKIkarus, welcome to EPP2014 thread!

I understand your concern... Maybe someone in England can travel with you to Portugal. I can put your name in the "maybe" list with a note asking for a traveler partner (look at Saranoya's case). What do you think?


And, here is some information about ID cards and passports when traveling inside Europe:

NO CARDS needed (ID or passport) when traveling from/to a Shengen countries:
If you are an EU national , you do not need to show your national ID card or passport when you are travelling from one border-free Schengen EU country to another:
Austria, Hungary, Norway, Belgium, Iceland, Poland, Czech Republic, Italy, Portugal, Denmark, Latvia, Slovakia, Estonia, Liechtenstein, Slovenia, Finland, Lithuania, Spain, France, Luxembourg, Sweden, Germany, Malta, Switzerland.


CARDS needed when (ID or passport):
You must still show a valid ID card or passport when travelling to or from Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Ireland, Romania and the United Kingdom. Though part of the EU, these countries do not belong to the border-free Schengen area. Before travelling, check what documents you must have to travel outside your home country and to enter the non Schengen EU country you plan to visit.

Detailed information here: http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/eu-citizen/index_en.htm

Looking forward to know your decision.
Thanks.
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#2161562 - 10/04/13 04:01 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Pretty sure you still need your ID card to fly, even within the Schengen countries. But you can freely go by car or train.
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#2161573 - 10/04/13 05:07 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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I think Allard is right - I've seen Italians showing their ID cards as we have gone into Germany, Brussels, Spain and France.....

As we are Canadians living in Italy we have to show our passports - and in Germany they want our passports AND our Italian ID cards. I think (actually I KNOW) that's wrong, but who is going to argue with passport control guards?
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#2161587 - 10/04/13 05:53 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Of course, thanks for the information.

Look at this notice in the europe.eu website:

Even if you don't need a passport for border checks within the Schengen area, it is still always best to take a passport or ID card with you, so you can prove your identity if needed (if stopped by police, boarding a plane, etc.).
Driving licences, post, bank or tax cards are not accepted as valid travel documents or proof of identity.


I always have my ID card when I travel within Europe. By plane, car, or train.
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#2161807 - 10/04/13 04:45 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hello everybody!

I'll be on vacation until next October 10. We will travel to the Algarve and I *hope* I can be away from the computer during the stay - with a bright sun in the sky and an air temperature of 26 degrees during the day, you guys think I'll stay in the hotel???? And if the weather gets worse I'll be happily playing the piano in the hotel -.thumb

Anyway, you guys can continue to write in this thread because when I come home, I'll read the news.

All the best,
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#2163844 - 10/09/13 09:13 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Certainly looking into it as a possibility, will let you know nearer the time.
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#2164308 - 10/10/13 07:01 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Ok, UKIkarus. You're in the "maybe" list. Thanks!
If you don't want to travel alone, I can put a note in front of your name.





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#2165931 - 10/14/13 07:28 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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It would be nice to have someone to go with if I do end up going since I have never travelled before, although if it comes to it I should be fine going alone (nervous yes! but ok) smile
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#2165977 - 10/14/13 09:58 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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UKIkarus, don't worry. I'm sure someone will show up to travel with you.




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#2166025 - 10/14/13 11:38 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Having looked at the workplace calender it seems that every year a colleague of mine books off a holiday abroad in Mid/Late June and since there are only 3 of us in the office, it is in our best interests to keep at least 2 of us around in case of a crisis.

With that in mind I do hope that in the end it becomes settled around July as that would ideally suit myself and possibly others (although admittedly I am but one potential traveller smile and it will be dependant upon the circumstances of the vast majority)
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#2166058 - 10/14/13 01:06 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: UKIkarus]
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Originally Posted By: UKIkarus
Having looked at the workplace calender it seems that every year a colleague of mine books off a holiday abroad in Mid/Late June and since there are only 3 of us in the office, it is in our best interests to keep at least 2 of us around in case of a crisis.

With that in mind I do hope that in the end it becomes settled around July as that would ideally suit myself and possibly others (although admittedly I am but one potential traveller smile and it will be dependant upon the circumstances of the vast majority)


Thanks for your information. As you can imagine there are several factors involved to choose the weekend, mainly, of course, the date that's better for everyone. That's why I'm waiting till late October to announce the definitive date.

BTW, I'm having some contacts here in Lisbon with some hotels and other possible locations for our EPP, and I'm always "looking" for the weekend of 05/06 July... So, probably, this will be the chosen date.
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#2168442 - 10/19/13 10:39 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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#2174234 - 10/30/13 09:38 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Just to announce that the EPP2014 will be on 05 July 2014. The date is closed.

The plan is to do the party on July 5, Saturday, starting afternoon.
Now, plan your trip!
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#2174260 - 10/30/13 10:38 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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I am really glad we have our date set.
Now,... the serious planning starts!
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#2174311 - 10/30/13 12:41 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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shocked I had better get researching and sorting things out!
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#2174417 - 10/30/13 04:14 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Ok, the date is the one good for me. Now I can start convincing the whole family to have holiday in Portugal next year. I promise I'll try my best!
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#2174692 - 10/31/13 07:37 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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I tried to choose the better date for everyone. I'm sorry, if it isn't suitable for someone.

There isn't any new entry in the participation list but with the date decision, maybe new members want to join us... Time to temporarily stick this thread to ABF forum?



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#2174724 - 10/31/13 09:19 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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I've put a stickied post and a link to this thread Carlos - that way we can help folks get used to looking in this forum for special events!
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#2177577 - 11/05/13 02:23 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hello my friends,
What if... what if we could use this red piano at our EPP2014? Chances are high!




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#2177749 - 11/05/13 09:32 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Ah, date is set!

Great now I can really long for it! smile

The red piano will do great on pics if we have a white dresscode.
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#2178956 - 11/08/13 09:39 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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The date is set, it's time to remember some useful information:

information about ID cards and passports when traveling inside Europe:
:: http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/eu-citizen/index_en.htm

European Health Insurance Card:
:: http://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=559

Some official homepages:
:: http://www.golisbon.com/
:: http://www.visitlisboa.com/

...Where you'll find information like this:
10 Reasons Why You Should Go to Lisbon:
CULTURE: It's one of the world's great historical cities, with characteristic and surprising sights, cultural treasures, and a beautiful setting that make it a paradise for walkers and photographers.
VALUE: It's one of Europe's best values -- officially Western Europe's least expensive capital.
LOCATION: It's the closest European capital to the United States and just around a 2-hour flight from all the other major European cities.
CLIMATE: Its mild climate makes it an ideal year-round destination. Even in winter, when most other European cities are freezing, in Lisbon high temperatures rarely go below 10C (50F).
RESORT: It is the only European capital located so close to sandy beaches, enabling visitors to combine culture with fun by the sea.
SIZE: It's a compact and intimate city, ideal for a short city break or a longer romantic stay, with a lively café culture and a nightlife that is one of the most vibrant in Europe.
VARIETY: Its surroundings offer an incredible variety of tourist attractions, from fairytale palaces in one of Europe's most romantic towns (Sintra), to world-class golf and fun in Europe's largest casino in Estoril, to surfing in Cascais or escaping to a natural park in Arrábida, to dolphin-watching in Setúbal.
GATEWAY: It makes a perfect base to explore many of Portugal's most outstanding towns and villages, from Evora to Obidos.
SAFETY: It's one of the safest European capitals. Tourists are always automatic targets in all big cities and visitors should beware of pickpocketing in Lisbon, but serious random violent crime is practically unheard of in this city.
WELCOMING: It's a friendly city with a cosmopolitan population, welcoming to all visitors and families with children, and open to minorities and alternative lifestyles.
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#2178971 - 11/08/13 10:10 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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UKIkarus is now in the "confirmed" list!
Welcome!!!

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#2180605 - 11/11/13 11:50 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Carlos, the red piano would be stunning! (maybe distracting though?)

Glad to see UKIkarus is confirmed.

Mr. Casinitaly and I were up in Nuremberg for a long weekend - we had the pleasure of spending time with PatH while we were there and talking about the upcoming trip!

Next week we'll meet up with Sinophilia in Milan for an Argerich concert!

Thanks for all the links Carolos!
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#2183991 - 11/17/13 03:45 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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You guys are always traveling around europe!
I hope you're doing advertising of our EPP hehehe smile
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#2184019 - 11/17/13 04:15 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Well, I have been trying to get a hotel/hall/auditorium for our EPP. There are few places with a piano in Lisbon (do you believe it?) and those that exist, are not cheap...

Then, I had an idea, but I need to know what you all think of it.
As I wrote in AOTW thread I was contacted by a national TV channel because they want my contribute to a new project they are planning. (Full story here )

My idea is to ask to the TV producers if they want to send a reporter to our EPP to do a kind of coverage to being seen on TV. Why? Because, that way, I can negotiate for FREE the hotel/hall/auditorium we need for our EPP. It's free publicity for the owner of the space... it's a good deal.

Now, the questions:
1) Do you mind about the presence of a TV crew to do the cover of our EPP?
2) What about appearing on TV?

note: Nothing is decided yet. It's all just in my head.


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#2184188 - 11/17/13 09:18 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hi Carlos,

I think the tv crew is interested in you which is amazing btw. Don't know why they should be interested in the EPP too. I think members of this forum might want to see it, but beyond that I doubt it. But maybe I'm wrong.

If there is an option at the EPP to request not to record on video when performing, then I would not mind the TV crew. Sometimes recording gives extra pressure and it's quite hard to perform well playing in front of people.
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#2184624 - 11/18/13 03:33 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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I did it! I bought my plane tickets today!
I'm flying with Lufthansa. The times are Lisbon time.

Arrival in Lisbon: Friday, 4.7.2014, 15:20, LH1168
Departure from Lisbon: Sunday, 6.7.2014, 12:15, LH1167

I have not asked my company for holidays yet; but in the more than 13 years I've worked for them, all my holidays demands were met. So I guess it's just a formality.
@CarlosCC: You can move me from the "maybe" to the "confirmed" list.

Now all I have to do is practice a little more piano... whistle
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#2184659 - 11/18/13 04:19 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: PaperClip]
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I have been on TV before although I can say for certain that I would NOT like to be playing in front of a camera crew xD

Let us know how things go.
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#2184663 - 11/18/13 04:25 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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patH is now in the "confirmed" list!
Welcome!!!



Dont' forget: What do you think about having a TV crew with us in our EPP?
To be clear, it's NOT a full coverage of the event. The idea is to "open the door" for only 10/15 minutes.
Check my previous post (#2184019) and tell me what do you think about it.

Bye, CarlosCC

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#2184672 - 11/18/13 04:36 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Dont' forget: What do you think about having a TV crew with us in our EPP?
To be clear, it's NOT a full coverage of the event. The idea is to "open the door" for only 10/15 minutes.
Check my previous post (#2184019) and tell me what do you think about it.

On the one hand, if hiring a location is expensive, then it might become interesting to have it sponsored. And it's advertising for piano music.
On the other hand, I usually look stupid in front of a camera. wink

So, I'll abstain from voting on that issue. If the majority is ok with a TV crew, I'm fine with it. If not, I'm fine with it as well.
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#2184696 - 11/18/13 05:05 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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PatH - yippee! Glad to see you are on the confirmed list!

Carlos, as for the TV cameras...I'd prefer to not be filmed playing - having a live audience is enough stress for me - but if others don't mind being filmed I don't have objection to being filmed while being an appreciative member of the audience smile
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#2185511 - 11/20/13 06:05 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Guys?

I'd love to come, but can't confirm until LATE (something like May, or even June)... Do you take late comers like that?
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#2185515 - 11/20/13 06:40 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Sure Nikolas! I'll put you in the "maybe" list.

You can confirm when you want, the deadline is some days before the event. But, to get best prices in hotels and airplane tickets you should decide as soon as possible.

May I ask you: i) where are you from?, and ii) are you planning to come alone?
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#2185601 - 11/20/13 10:21 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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i) I'm from Greece.
ii) Planning on coming alone, or with the wife (probably alone though)...

I should know in 2014 at some point, in which case I'll definitely let you know personally, or Casinitaly, or someone else I know is coming... smile
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#2185608 - 11/20/13 10:33 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Ok, Nikolas, you are in the "maybe" list!!




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#2185827 - 11/20/13 04:28 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Some thoughts about the TV crew in our EPP2014.

Many of us do not feel comfortable being filmed or interviewed for a TV channel. I don't know if the TV producer wants to do a short report of our EPP. I don't know if the hotel agrees with the proposal... OK, lots of undefined things.

So, I was thinking in a new plan (with the help of my wife, of course...):
The episode (with me) is to be filmed in several places in Lisbon, so my plan is to ask the TV producer if we can do one scene in the hotel - here, I can explain what is PW, talk about our party, or play the red piano, or something else... -.

This plan has some advantages:
- No need to have a TV crew in our EPP...
- The hotel will have (for sure!) the same free publicity on TV;
- I can try to change that free publicity with a free space for us.

Makes sense?
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#2186051 - 11/21/13 01:35 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Carlos, that sounds like a good idea - and very creative thinking to try to get us a good rate! Why not give it a try? smile

Nikolas - I'm glad you're thinking of joining us!

As for "deadlines" I think that there really isn't any deadline except with regards to getting in on a deal with a hotel discount. Ideally we're going to try to stay at the same hotel, and the earlier we know how many folks are going to stay, the easier /better it will be for negotiating a discount.

I've started looking at air fares -but still have to pin down how many days we are planning to stay altogether.

I'm already thinking about which pieces I'd like to play.
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#2186994 - 11/22/13 05:42 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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The 1st stage of my plan is complete, with success: I had a long conversation with the producer of the TV program and he agrees to do part of the episode in the hotel where I want to do our EPP. smile

Now I can try to negotiate with the hotel manager to rent our space for FREE!
Did I told you that he wants €1000 for a rental of 5 hours?!?!?!? That's out of any possible agreement. OK, OK, they offer the catering for 50 guests, and a special room rate for you, but that's too much €€€€. So cross your fingers, please.

To give you an idea, here is the hotel: http://myriad.pt/en/
And some pictures: Myriad Lisbon pictures
Beautiful, isn't it?
This is my first choice... of course there are other possibilities, but... can I dream?

EDIT: Watch the video and look the red piano I was playing! (at 01m:00s)


Edited by CarlosCC (11/22/13 06:00 PM)
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#2187177 - 11/23/13 05:07 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Carlos, it sounds like you may have a solution in the works.

I think the hotel is indeed lovely - gorgeous! - and I can see that it is obviously on the expensive side smile The rental time for the piano might be ok if it were an event people paid to participate in -like a concert or something, but for us, it is a bit over the top! I agree with you!

What kind of discount do you think they'd be offering for the rooms?
I am pretty sure we have people arriving and departing on different days, so staying for 2 or 3 or 4 nights....

It is certainly lovely to dream, but I wonder if they will
a) be interested in giving discounts for different lengths of stay
b) how much the discount might be.

Do you have any sense of that yet? I am concerned that this may be more that we're comfortable spending. I know it may be too early to have a clear idea on this, but it is an important factor (I know you know that smile )

Thank you again for all the time and effort you are putting into making this event a wonderful success!
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#2187267 - 11/23/13 10:50 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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A few clarifications about the location of our EPP2014:

- My first concern is money.

- My strategy is to look for a location, for free.

- Then if it is an hotel, I will try to negotiate some discounts for EPP members. But the choice is always yours.

- Anyway, if it isn't an hotel, then each of you have to find an hotel in Lisbon.

That's the plan. That's why I'm working in advance to give chances to everybody in think about what is more suitable for each budget, and to decide.


Concerning with the piano - yes, we'll play for each other! -: Again, and if necessary, I'll try to rent a piano for free, too smile
How? Remember when Yamaha Iberia talked to me asking about our EPP? OK, it's time to call back...

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#2187974 - 11/25/13 09:28 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hi Carlos,

The Myriad is a beautiful hotel. If I'm correct, I think the price is so high, because they offer a room with catering for 50 people. If we were with 50 persons, that's 20 euro p.p. That's a good price actually for a room big enough for 50.

But I don't think we'll be with 50 persons. Let's say the group will be 20 persons. Then we need a smaller room (read: cheaper) in a 3, 4 or 5 star hotel, that could provide this to us.

Not every hotel has the right size of an event room for 20 persons and a piano. If it's bigger, we'll pay to much. I think there will be one or two hotels in Lisbon with exactly the rooms we need.
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#2189302 - 11/27/13 04:54 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Yes PaperClip, you're right.

This is the first time I'm organizing such event. One month ago I didn't have a clue about prices, conditions, locations, and so on. So, I'd to start searching. And, why not try Myriad? Now, I have a price to compare with other alternatives (less expensive, I hope).

So, and because we have plenty of time, I'm starting with Myriad just because I think it is a good place. If we can't afford it, then, and as you say, there are other places in Lisbon to do our EPP. (Btw, there are NOT so many hotels in Lisbon with a piano AND a space for us. I would guess it's 30/70. The best hotels has space AND a piano, but they are more expensive. Others don't have a piano OR they don't do EPPs...)

Anyway, my goal is to define the location till the end of the year.
As you know, I'm working to have the space for free. That would be wonderful, but I can't promise that.

Thanks for your post.
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#2189373 - 11/27/13 07:35 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hi Carlos,

You are right to start at the Myriad. It's a beautiful place. The best hotels always have piano's. smile Once I helped to bring a maserati cabrio into an event room in a 5 star hotel for a fashion show. So I know there's a lot possible.

If you want the right size for the event room, I would look for historic buildings with a luxury hotel inside. The chance of finding a small event room in an old and small building is much bigger than to find one in a big and modern hotel. Especially if the modern hotel has more than 400 rooms.

On the internet I found the Heritage Lisbon Hotels. I quote the website: 'Collection of small boutique hotels in the historic center of Lisbon. Property and management of Portuguese families, the Heritage Lisbon Hotels are installed in old houses and small historic buildings in the historic center.'

Sounds ok.

Hmm.... Ok. Now I check the tripadvisor. The Brittania of the Heritage hotels is rated no 1 of 219 hotels in Lisbon. A very nice hotel in art deco style in the old city centre. Sounds good too.

Now I check for a small event room.

Herculano 1 room: Sq. M 55, Length 7,5 Width 7,2, Height 2,52, Theatre 30, School 18, U 16, Cabaret 21, Banquet -, Buffet -, Cocktail 30.

Garret room: Sq. M 60, Length 9, Width 6,5, Height 2,75, Theatre 50, School 30, U 22, Cabaret 28, Banquet 40, Buffet 32, Cocktail 60.

Pessoa room: Sq. M 50, Length 6, Width 5,5, Height 2,40, Theatre -, School -, U -, Cabaret -, Banquet -, Buffet -, Cocktail 50.

Three small rooms. Pessoa is too small and Garret room too big and therefor too expensive. The Herculas room is 7,5 x 7,5 meters suitable for theatre and cabaret, a big room for 16 persons, but ok to 30 persons.

I think this is a good room size for the EPP, don't you think?

The people working at the hotel could organise a piano for you if they don't have one. It's their daily job to handle specific requests. So you could ask them.

Well, I hope with these room specifications would help you to search for an event room of the right size in the hotel of your choice. Succes!



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#2189601 - 11/28/13 11:23 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Not a bad idea smile having looked on Google for this line

"Herculano 1 room: Sq. M 55, Length 7,5 Width 7,2, Height 2,52, Theatre 30, School 18, U 16, Cabaret 21, Banquet -, Buffet -, Cocktail 30."

It instantly takes me to the page you referred to, hopefully Carlos has also found it without any problems smile


On a side note I have cut down on all the distractions that were taking place on a daily basis from computers to whatever else (I'm an IT Technician soo yeah) and putting more time into what matters smile


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#2190220 - 11/29/13 06:52 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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They don't have a piano though. So hopefully Carlos will find a nice hotel with a piano.
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#2190562 - 11/30/13 01:25 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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I contacted the Heritage Lisbon Hotel and they rent the room for €180 (without catering). But they don't have a piano... it's true frown

But don't worry. I've some other contacts and my request is being studied. I'm sure I'll find the right place for us.

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#2191310 - 12/02/13 09:39 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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I hope it all comes together nicely in the end smile

If you need any specific information feel free to ask and I'll see what can be found as will many others I'm sure.
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#2200938 - 12/21/13 11:17 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hello,
(Long time without writing here...)

I've been quite busy (job, family and piano related stuff), but I'm still working for our EPP.

Well, I've to say that our EPP is already well known by local piano stores, piano dealers, and some hotels (Lisbon is a small city and everyone knows each other...). Believe it or not, the interest in our party is growing everyday and I have been contacted by people who wants to know more details about what I'm organizing. Quite interesting!

So, I may have some great news soon.
But don't worry: our party will always be a private party (no TV crews, no outsiders, etc)

Now, it's time to wish you a Merry Christmas!
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#2200973 - 12/21/13 12:45 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Wow Carlos, that's so neat. I had not realized Lisbon was so small- or perhaps it is the piano community that is small and chats a lot? smile Either way it looks like things are going to work well for the party!

Feliz Natal, Joyeux Noel, Feliz Navidad, Buone Natale a tutti!
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#2201040 - 12/21/13 04:17 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Originally Posted By: CarlosCC


Hello,
(Long time without writing here...)

I've been quite busy (job, family and piano related stuff), but I'm still working for our EPP.

Well, I've to say that our EPP is already well known by local piano stores, piano dealers, and some hotels (Lisbon is a small city and everyone knows each other...). Believe it or not, the interest in our party is growing everyday and I have been contacted by people who wants to know more details about what I'm organizing. Quite interesting!

So, I may have some great news soon.
But don't worry: our party will always be a private party (no TV crews, no outsiders, etc)

Now, it's time to wish you a Merry Christmas!
CarlosCC




And a Very Merry Christmas to You and Yours CarlosCC!

Thank you for all your doing to organize this party.
Who knows, maybe by then Kathy & I will have won the lottery and can come too :-)
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#2201075 - 12/21/13 05:34 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Ah, Frank. As an "honorary guest" you will always be present in our mind and hearts!

Merry Christmas!
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#2202172 - 12/24/13 03:58 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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I wish you all a merry christmas!

I look forward to be in Lisbon next year. Then I take a hot bath in a nice hotel and I will float a glass of cognac in the water to warm it up. laugh

Thanks for organizing the event, Carlos! smile
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#2205752 - 12/31/13 02:33 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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hehehe, I need to get practicing... still terrible at reading and chords frown
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#2206753 - 01/02/14 07:21 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Don't worry... You're not alone... smile
In fact, I'm trying to recover from this Xmas season. I didn't play for a couple of days and I feel I need to return to the practicing routine.

btw, I'm already thinking about the pieces I want to play in our EPP, so I want to ask to all EPP2014 guests:
Do you have already chosen the pieces you're going to play???
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#2206921 - 01/02/14 01:57 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Originally Posted By: CarlosCC

Do you have already chosen the pieces you're going to play???


Maybe.

I will probably play the sonatina I'm working on now, and perhaps a jazz or blues piece.... I think I'd like to have 3 that I'm comfortable with.

I just got a Beatles book for Christmas, it could be fun to try something from that!
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#2209664 - 01/06/14 06:38 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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I know barely any classical and play mainly by ear, I doubt I will have anything worth contributing to be frank... that said it wouldn't hurt to play for fun smile

But no I have nothing really planned, I am just looking forward to the experience more than anything as it will be a first for me... both in terms of meeting you folks and travelling at all.
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#2210159 - 01/07/14 12:11 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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I cannot seem to edit my previous post for some reason frown weird....

Anyhow since it looks like I am 99% going to be here, anyone from England (south east) popping along to this? I could use someone to travel with to ease the nerves first time round.
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#2211434 - 01/09/14 11:34 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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UKIkarus, don't worry about the trip. Everything will be fine, even if you do the trip alone. As I told you, we're from here, and so you'll never be alone.

Some updates: I'm still searching for the best location for our EPP. The next spot I'm going to visit is a space for about 50 persons - that's enough, I think - near the Lisbon Cathedral. The owner is well known for doing "small events for artists" so I think this can be a good idea for us - the owner is a musician, btw -.
The room has a piano, a bar, and a kitchen so they can provide food and drinks for a small price. I think it's a kind of "typical Portuguese food house", and they can close the doors to the public if we decide to do the party with them.
I don't know the space, but a friend of mine says it's perfect for us.
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#2212050 - 01/10/14 09:40 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Time to think about where to stay in Lisbon!
Lisbon is not a large city, but you must avoid too busy or downtown areas. So, I would suggest a hotel in "Parque das Nações" (aka "Expo") area. This is where I live - it's the "new" city area -, it's near the Tejo river, it has transportation of all kinds for everywhere (subway, bus, taxi, tourist-bus, trains, near the airport), and it's very pleasant.

And because it's near my house, it makes my life easier smile

PS: I'm sorry. It's not possible to do a "true" negotiation with a hotel without knowing the total number of guests. In addition, I don't know the financial situation, nor the preferences of each of you, so it's impossible to me to choose one hotel for everyone. Of course, I can give some advice based on your own surveys.

I hope it helps:
Google Maps: Hotels in "Parque das Nações", Lisbon
Booking.com: Hotels in "Parque das Nações", Lisbon

And I made this (sort of) map: crazy
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#2212067 - 01/10/14 10:26 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Nicely done smile

It does not look like the hotels are too far apart so I don't suppose it really matters who stays where with regards to distance, I would however be interested to see what ideas others have (if any) or where others have booked and why?

Will keep an eye on the thread to see what happens, going to have a word with family members to get the ball rolling smile
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#2212070 - 01/10/14 10:32 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Carlos, the location you're checking out sounds fine! Room for 50 is more than ample!

Thanks also for the info /suggestions on hotel locations.

UKIkarus, I'll let you know when we've picked our hotel so you can see if you want to stay at the same place.

Last year we stayed at the same hotel as SwissMS and Mr.SwissMS and that was nice. We had lots of opportunities to chat, dine and tour about together!
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#2212362 - 01/10/14 06:03 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Carlos - I wish I may, I wish I might be able to come to the EPP but won't be able to.

I enjoy keeping up with all the plans you have made and it will be a great get together. You would make a great travel agent.

Hope you and everyone have a great time and post pictures if you can.

Bon Voyage in advance one and all.

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#2212370 - 01/10/14 06:18 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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And we are watching this unfold from here in the States, and very grateful to you Carlos for putting this all together.

At the very least we will need to send over official Piano Forums member pins for everyone.

Carols, please PM (or direct email frank@pianoworld.com) your address details, and when you know, how many members will be attending.

One of these days Kathy and I will come over ourselves, we'd love to visit Portugal.
I used to work for a Portuguese man at a car dealership in Newport, RI (eastern State in U.S.), and my daughter's Godparents are Portuguese. They turned me onto Chourico and meat pies that were to die for!
Lovely hard working people with strong family values.

Have fun, take lots of pictures!

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#2213019 - 01/11/14 06:04 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Someone wants to share an appartment with me instead of a hotel?

The appartment is a bit too big for me, because it has two bedrooms with double bed. It has airco and a great view:

Appartment

Maybe someone who loves soccer too, because 4th and 5th juli there are WC quarter finals. laugh

Anyway, when split the appartment costs 60 euro per person per night, which is cheaper than an hotel.

Musdan, next year there will be europian piano party III, I'm sure. I hope to see you then! smile
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#2213252 - 01/12/14 06:57 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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And we are booked! We've got our flights!

We used TAP, the Portuguese airline, and got a pretty good rate!


Now...to continue the search for the hotel!
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#2213263 - 01/12/14 07:31 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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#2213932 - 01/13/14 10:57 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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musdan - I'm sorry that you don't come to our EPP, in Lisbon. But we're planning to do a party every year in a different country, so perhaps we'll meet in another one.

Frank - Oh, you are so kind smile I'll send my address. Thanks in advance!
Really? Do you know what is "Chouriço"? There are dozens of types of chouriços, and it's very, very good. If it weren't the rules of food shipments to the U.S., I could send some chouriços for you by postal...
And, it's very nice to know that you have a connection with Portugal. thumb One more reason to visit my country!

PaperClip - the appartment is gorgeous! I can recognize the zone, and it's good, very good.


Again, send me a PM about any question you have. I'm here to help.
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#2213944 - 01/13/14 11:28 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Carlos,

I know about Chourico (which I first pronounced exactly as it was written Chore-eek-o:-), then I found it
was pronounced like Shareese, at least here in the States.

My daughter's Godfather, Frank Moniz first introduced me to it mixed with eggs for breakfast.
He cooked his chourico in a little beer. Roger Paschal, the then co-owner of the car dealership I worked for also introduced me to his version. All good!
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#2214346 - 01/14/14 06:01 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hi all,
I think it's a good time to book airline tickets and hotels. Do not forget that the prices are lower now.

Notice: For those who expressed interest but have not yet given a definitive "yes": for organizational purposes it is important to confirm your attendance as soon as possible. Thanks.

Just to remember the pianist list:



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#2214643 - 01/14/14 03:10 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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So it's really time to decide! During last weekend we (my husband and I) started looking for flights. Fingers crossed, we should participate. smile
But Carlos, wait until we buy the tickets to put me in the confirmed list. It could take another couple of weeks, I think. We have to decide how long we will stay in Portugal, probably a couple of days in Lisbon before EPP and then 7-10 days in Algarve because the children love seaside holidays and last year we gave them something different.
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#2215660 - 01/16/14 11:06 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Cheryl, do you want to tell us what hotel you've booked at? I think it would be nice if I could be at the same one?


Edited by Saranoya (01/16/14 11:06 AM)
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#2215708 - 01/16/14 12:56 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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#2216043 - 01/17/14 05:23 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hi all,

Even though I would have loved to join you all in Lisbon, I can unfortunately not do so since my girlfriend and I are expecting our first child to be born just about that time!

So you can remove my option from the list.

I wish you all a very good party. If the first EPP was any indication it will be a lot of fun and a very interesting experience for everyone.

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#2216045 - 01/17/14 06:02 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Saranoya - I'll check Cheryl's hotel list this weekend, to study the best option (mainly location) for you. (Did you see my PM?)

MrPozor - CONGRATULATONS!!!! This is wonderful news! I wish all the best for your whole family, and special for your baby!!
Maybe you guys can join us in another EPP thumb



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#2216059 - 01/17/14 07:13 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Mr Pozor.... well, what a wonderful reason for not joining us in Lisbon! Congratulations!
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#2216192 - 01/17/14 12:12 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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#2216198 - 01/17/14 12:21 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: UKIkarus]
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Best wishes Mr. Pozor for a happy, healthy baby. smile

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#2216270 - 01/17/14 02:54 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Great news MrPozor!

Best wishes to your family!
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#2216562 - 01/18/14 08:43 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Back to the hotel question: If I understood the last posts on the subject correctly, everybody is looking for hotels themselves; no central hotel for all or most EPP attendants.

I have a Club Accor membership card, so I will probably look for ibis hotels. The one in Brussels was ok.
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#2216598 - 01/18/14 09:51 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: patH]
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Back to the hotel question: If I understood the last posts on the subject correctly, everybody is looking for hotels themselves; no central hotel for all or most EPP attendants.

I have a Club Accor membership card, so I will probably look for ibis hotels. The one in Brussels was ok.


That's right PatH. We are looking individually. I posted the places we're checking out now a few post above this one, after Saranoya asked. We haven't settled definitively yet.

Which day are you arriving?
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#2216760 - 01/18/14 04:11 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: casinitaly]
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Which day are you arriving?

Friday afternoon.
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#2216869 - 01/18/14 08:12 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hi all,

I just wait for the first people to book the hotel. January is an expensive month for me, so I book the hotel probably end february or march. To me it looks more fun to stay in the same hotel, so I might book into one when someone pick one already and that hotel seems nice to me.

I do have a little preference for the Tivoli hotel Oriente though, because it is perfectly located near the subway, parque das nacoes and it is a low end 5 star luxury hotel for about 130 euro per night, which I think is quite cheap for a 5 star hotel.

I also have a little preference for an private appartment, which is not expensive at all, range from 30 to 100 euro per day, because it looks fun to me to have a kitchen so I can cook whenever I want to (like that chorizo in beer with eggs) smile and maybe have a garden to sit outside, but mostly because a private appartment is located in a residental area, which is more quiet than an hotel at A location. And I think I need a bit quiteness after a day listening to piano.

So I don't know yet, heh. Just wait where others will stay.

@MrProzor, congrats with little prozor growing in belly. smile
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#2217163 - 01/19/14 02:12 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: PaperClip]
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Originally Posted By: PaperClip
(...)I do have a little preference for the Tivoli hotel Oriente though, because it is perfectly located near the subway, parque das nacoes and it is a low end 5 star luxury hotel for about 130 euro per night, which I think is quite cheap for a 5 star hotel.(..)

Because some of you are looking for a hotel, here is my opinion about some of them (based on a EPP pianist's short list)
I will only consider the location, transportation and proximity of points of interest in Lisbon. I will not comment on the price, or hotel type or "architecture". These are personal things.

Monte Belverde
[-] The main negative point is the location;
[-] You may choose a TAXI as the best and fastest option to travel form/to there;
[-] It's in a hill (Lisbon has 7 hills, btw) so pay attention to this when you talk about "walking tours";
[-] There is no subway (metro) station near the hotel.
[-] It's not too close to the historical city or commercial areas.
[+] It has a nice view over the Tejo River.
[+] Inside one of oldest areas of Lisbon;
[?] I'm not sure if this a quiet street... I think there are some bars and nightclubs in the area.

Tiara Park Atlantic Lisbon
[+] Good location. Not in a hill smile
[+] Near the center (Marques de Pombal;
[+] There is a metro station, bus, taxis near the hotel;
[+] Near some tourist bus (Marques de Pombal);
[+] Best commercial area in Lisbon;
[+] Good to walking tours;

Orange3House
[?] I don't know if Orange3House is a hotel... You may not have hotel services there;
[-] North hill of Monte Belverde hotel - same zone
[-] No subway station near this area. Only bus and taxis.
[+] It's near the "Bairro Alto" zone with lots of restaurants, bars, and nightclubs;
[-] It's not a quiet zone. Lot's of noise during sleep hours;

Tivoli Hotel Oriente
[+] I am customer of hotel Tivoli, in Algarve and Madeira island smile
[+] Good location, nice view over Tejo River;
[+] Inside "new" side of Lisbon (Oriente = East). All the zone has new buildings and streets;
[+] Near transportation for everywhere. Tourist bus included. Near the airport;
[+] It has a shopping center 1 minute away;
[+] Good restaurants and bars in the area;
[-] It is not close to the historic center.

PS: Ask me before booking a hotel. There are details that don't "appear" on the internet...

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#2217676 - 01/20/14 01:51 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Ok, after more searching and further consultation with Carlos smile

a few of us who are staying several days are booking here - it is in a good location and has good reviews on TripAdvisor.

Hotel Lisboa Plaza!

http://www.tripadvisor.ca/Hotel_Review-g...ra.html#REVIEWS

http://www.heritage.pt/heritage-lisbon-hotels/hotel-lisboa-plaza/gallery#


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edited to add: I've asked if they will offer any discounts to a smallgGroup. Let's see what they say.


Edited by casinitaly (01/20/14 02:11 PM)
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#2217705 - 01/20/14 02:45 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: casinitaly]
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I just finished booking my hotel (Hotel Lisboa Plaza) and my flight. Now I am really excited! See you all in Lisbon!!

Congratulations, Mr Pozor! Best wishes for a healthy, happy baby!
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#2217741 - 01/20/14 04:09 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hi,

Nice to see you've picked a hotel. Great choice!

I've booked an hotel close to the Hotel Lisboa Plaza and share the same metrostation. It's a little cheaper and the furniture is a bit newer, but also at walking distance from Lisboa Plaza. I'm waiting for an opinion from Carlos before confirming the reservation. It's hotel Lisboa from NH Hotelles.
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#2217766 - 01/20/14 05:19 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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#2218189 - 01/21/14 12:46 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Today we booked the flight! smile
Carlos, now you can put me (+3) in the confirmed list.
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#2218340 - 01/21/14 04:54 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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+3?

Thanks for sharing hotel locations folks it'll help when it comes time to choose myself.
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#2218343 - 01/21/14 04:57 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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UKIkarus the +3 = husband and kids smile


Lovely to see things all coming together these past few days.

I just had the pleasure of a Skype chat with Carlos!
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#2218575 - 01/22/14 01:37 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Ok, I confirmed the reservation.

Now I only need a tune, haha. grin
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#2218604 - 01/22/14 05:11 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hello everybody!
Yes skype is wonderful, and I also talked to Torquenale! It was a very pleasant evening thumb

I am always glad when I do an update of this list:


If you need help with anything send me a message.

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#2218884 - 01/22/14 03:23 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: casinitaly]
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UKIkarus the +3 = husband and kids smile


Thanks Cheryl!

I hope in a few days we are able to book the hotel (first, we have to decide which one).
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#2218893 - 01/22/14 03:35 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hopefully in a few days I'll be sorting the passport + medical card smile

I figured it may have been related to family, but wasn't too sure... seems a few people will be turning up.
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#2222315 - 01/29/14 05:08 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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UKIkarus: Do you need a passport to travel to Europe? Cause I've been going back and forth around Europe with just my ID Card?!?!?

Anyhow, as Cheryl knows, I don't have an update yet, since my family is a bit of a mess at the moment (concerning our whereabouts... nothing too serious. Don't worry).
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#2222357 - 01/29/14 07:34 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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To and from and UK apparently so...


Quote:

Frequent passport checks used to be a pain when travelling around continental Europe.

However, 25 countries in Europe (including Switzerland and EEA members Norway and Iceland) have signed up to a scheme known as the Schengen Agreement, which allows travellers to move from state to state without the need for passport checks.

The UK is not a full member of the agreement, so UK travellers will have to show their passports when entering the Schengen region, but once inside, you’re generally free to move from one country to another without passport control or customs checks.






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#2222603 - 01/29/14 02:32 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Today we booked 3 nights at a cheaper hotel: Hotel Principe Lisboa. smile

http://www.hotelprincipelisboa.com/pt/hotel-overview.html
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#2222702 - 01/29/14 05:16 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Torquenale! That's great you're all booked !
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#2224586 - 02/02/14 11:26 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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For those of you who are interested in picking up a little bit of Portuguese before the party, check out the APP: duolingo

You can use it on your smart phone or your computer and it is a pretty good little program!
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#2224601 - 02/02/14 12:10 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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I love reading the updates of your plans!
Nikolas, are you joying us? Have you decided yet?

Some news: I think I found a nice place to do our EPP2014. I'm going to meet again with the manager to discuss some details and the price. I went there to try the piano and to dinner. I liked both!
Once decided I'll tell where is it smile
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#2224621 - 02/02/14 12:27 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Meanwhile, I was collecting information about Lisbon:

http://www.golisbon.com/
http://www.visitlisboa.com/

Lisbon weather statistics:
:: http://www.worldweatheronline.com/Lisbon-weather/Lisboa/PT.aspx#5sdVyRTpV5ur5x4H.99

information about ID cards and passports when traveling inside Europe:
:: http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/eu-citizen/index_en.htm

European Health Insurance Card:
:: http://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=559


10 Reasons Why You Should Go to Lisbon:
CULTURE: It's one of the world's great historical cities, with characteristic and surprising sights, cultural treasures, and a beautiful setting that make it a paradise for walkers and photographers.
VALUE: It's one of Europe's best values -- officially Western Europe's least expensive capital.
LOCATION: It's the closest European capital to the United States and just around a 2-hour flight from all the other major European cities.
CLIMATE: Its mild climate makes it an ideal year-round destination. Even in winter, when most other European cities are freezing, in Lisbon high temperatures rarely go below 10C (50F).
RESORT: It is the only European capital located so close to sandy beaches, enabling visitors to combine culture with fun by the sea.
SIZE: It's a compact and intimate city, ideal for a short city break or a longer romantic stay, with a lively café culture and a nightlife that is one of the most vibrant in Europe.
VARIETY: Its surroundings offer an incredible variety of tourist attractions, from fairytale palaces in one of Europe's most romantic towns (Sintra), to world-class golf and fun in Europe's largest casino in Estoril, to surfing in Cascais or escaping to a natural park in Arrábida, to dolphin-watching in Setúbal.
GATEWAY: It makes a perfect base to explore many of Portugal's most outstanding towns and villages, from Evora to Obidos.
SAFETY: It's one of the safest European capitals. Tourists are always automatic targets in all big cities and visitors should beware of pickpocketing in Lisbon, but serious random violent crime is practically unheard of in this city.
WELCOMING: It's a friendly city with a cosmopolitan population, welcoming to all visitors and families with children, and open to minorities and alternative lifestyles.
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#2226466 - 02/05/14 05:27 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Carlos! Thanks for all those links - and that's great news that you think you've found the location for our event! woohoo!

It is wonderful to have so much organized so early in the year.

The app I downloaded for Learning Portuguese is really very entertaining --- and useful. I feel I'm well on the way to feeling I'll be able to function, at least at "survival tourist level" by the time July rolls around!
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#2226639 - 02/05/14 10:21 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Can I have an extra month more or less to decide? Or a bit less actually. I'm just going through some weird family times, plus there's this kickstarter thing running which takes away all my energy...
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#2226777 - 02/06/14 04:39 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Nikolas, of course, you can. I think that by the end of April/mid May you can still decide. After that date is more complicated, because there are reservations and appointments to make and I need to know the exact number of guests.
Don't forget that you'll get better prices in airplane tickets and hotels if you decide ASAP.

Nice to know that you guys will all learn Portuguese. smile

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#2226795 - 02/06/14 05:57 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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shocked possibly..... I never have been good with languages
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#2231849 - 02/15/14 02:39 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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I have choosen my piece for the EPP2. It will be Heller etude op 47 no 5.

Not a very long piece though, but I like it very much. And one or two old pieces to get comfy at a strange piano.
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#2232594 - 02/16/14 01:36 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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I booked my hotel today: Ibis Libertade.

Defining factors for this hotel were:
- Close to the City center
- I know what to expect from Ibis (and I have an Accorclub Card)
- Not too expensive
AND (last not least):
- Relatively close to the Lisboa Plaza hotel (about 700 meters on foot, according to Google Maps). So I can meet those who stay there at the subway station.
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#2232732 - 02/16/14 05:39 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Well, I have about 400 words in Portugues.... most of them I can't imagine using! However, I can order a sandwich, chicken, a steak, juice, water, coffe or wine, and ask where the bathroom is. I think I'm good to go smile


Paperclip -that's great that you know what you're playing ! Heller has some great pieces - I look forward to hearing yours!

PatH - Glad you'll be near where we're staying! I am pretty sur Paperclip/Chris is close-by too. At the Lisboa Plaza we have SwissMS + hubby, Saranoya, me + hubby and Ganddalf. Torquenale + family are booked a little farther North from us - but not too far. Things are really coming together nicely!


I haven't seen Allard or Wouter around in this thread lately...any updates from them?

Carlos....you hinted that you may have found our venue.....are you keeping us in suspense ? smile






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#2232837 - 02/16/14 09:30 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Ah, 400 words in portugues is fantastic, casinitaly!

I'm learning 50-100 words portugues about food and drinks, so I could order from a non translated menu. But I will do so in english though.

I would love to try a local dish like fried pig's ear, haha.

Nice that we all stay in the same neighbourhood. laugh
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#2232944 - 02/17/14 05:32 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hello everybody.

patH, nice to know about your booking. IBIS Liberdade is fine!

Cheryl - It's not confirmed yet. I'll announce it soon. I promise thumb
About 400 words??? Wow, you'll have to teach me some of them wink

Chris, your post gave me an idea about the list of pieces we will play. We can do a kind of "EPP2004 program" with, at least, a piece for each member. Of course anyone can play more than one piece but it will be funny to have one or two pre-announced pieces for each one - like we do in ABF Recitals -.

So, we have:
EPP2014 program
PaperClip/Chris - Etude op 47 no 5 (Stephen Heller), +2
CarlosCC - Time Lapse (Einaudi), Life (Einaudi), +n


I have been very busy in my office, but from early March everything will return to normal.
Have a nice week.
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#2233362 - 02/17/14 06:46 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Carlos, I'm up over 500 words now smile Mind you some of them are not all that useful for our weekend get-together!

Still, it is great fun. I hope we can try for a Skype chat when things calm down for you - this week and last were just tooooooooo busy for me too!

I like the idea of a little program for the EPP - I'm aiming for the Clementi Sonatina I didn't have ready for the Feb recital as my main piece. I have also my Fughetta (Pachelbel) I'd like to play and perhaps Franck's "Plaintes d'une Poupée".


Is anyone up for some duets? I have some fairly simple ones I used to play with my first teacher.

EPP2014 program
PaperClip/Chris - Etude op 47 no 5 (Stephen Heller), +2
CarlosCC - Time Lapse (Einaudi), Life (Einaudi), +n
Casinitaly/Cheryl - Clementi Sonatina Op 36 N2. + 2? (willing to try duets - even sightreading)
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#2233525 - 02/18/14 04:22 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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500 words? wow! is this with the app? will certainly have to look into learning some myself.

As for Skype, despite being given the details by Carlos I had roughly 1000+ Carlos results come back so I sure hope I have added the right one. (can just imagine trying to discuss things with a completely random person)

I look forward to hearing all these pieces, and while I absolutely LOVE the idea of duets and have been talking to my teacher about them for some time, my reading ability is sorely lacking. It will be interesting to see what comes up at the EPP though, exciting.

As for myself, I have yet to decide on anything to play as I am still learning some VERY basic pieces via sheets, never the less when the time comes I'll do my best to contribute something smile

Still struggling to get all the documentation for the passport at the moment, but that should hopefully be sorted by the end of the month.
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#2233533 - 02/18/14 04:38 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: UKIkarus]
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(...)As for Skype, despite being given the details by Carlos I had roughly 1000+ Carlos results come back so I sure hope I have added the right one. (can just imagine trying to discuss things with a completely random person)


Notice: Skype use unique usernames. So if you add exactly my skype username you add me to your list. Of course there are lots of other combinations.

I'll send a PM with my personal contacts to EPP2014 members
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#2235523 - 02/21/14 02:23 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hello! I've some good news.

I want to announce the location of our EPP2014:
"Duetos da Sé" - It's a restaurant/bar near the "Sé Catedral" and It has a lovely "C. Bechstein" piano.

Why I choose this place:
- I went there for dinner and I loved playing that piano, and the food is really good;
- The piano is tuned every 15 days, just because this bar has a musical program with professional musicians playing for the public at weekends;
- The location is near the cathedral inside "Alfama" district;
- We'll have a buffet with typical food and wines;
- It will be close to the public between 01:00PM - 06:30PM just for us - this was the tricky part -, so we've plenty of time to play and eat.


About the price:
The price depends on the menu and I'm waiting for that information soon, but I'm sure it isn't expensive because the manager is friend of a friend of mine smile

Take a look:
Site: http://www.duetosdase.com/site/?gtlang=en
Google Maps: link
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#2235554 - 02/21/14 03:21 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Excellent smile well done Carlos!
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#2235593 - 02/21/14 04:30 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Well done indeed Carlos! - it looks perfect!
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#2235685 - 02/21/14 06:49 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Wow, that's great Carlos!

A private bar, cafe, restaurant for ourselfs with a nice grand! I can't believe they will close the restaurant just for us! laugh

And they make their own mayonnaise and fries.... just a perfect place!

Good job Carlos, thanks!
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#2236122 - 02/22/14 07:22 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Frank is doing a terrific job with Facebook.
Look what I found:



Thanks Frank! thumb
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#2236432 - 02/23/14 03:40 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Great progress here!
Carlos, the location looks excellent, you've done a wonderful job!
Cheryl, you are almost fluent in Portuguese, brava!

And the program is taking shape... I really don't know yet what I will playbut I think I have still time to chose...
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#2237870 - 02/26/14 09:48 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Thanks! I hope you like the location ... I tried to do my best smile
My idea was to make a reservation as early as possible because there are many musicians who love to perform there.
In any case, I will not stop looking for more locations... We never know if I find something better, right? But, at least, this one is ours smile

And now, an update to our program:

EPP2014 program
PaperClip/Chris - Etude op 47 no 5 (Stephen Heller), +2
CarlosCC - Time Lapse (Einaudi), Life (Einaudi), +n
Casinitaly/Cheryl - Sonatina Op 36 N2. (Clementi) + 2? (willing to try duets - even sightreading)
Ganddalf/Inge S - A piece for me to play (Inge S)

NOTICE:
Put this thread in your "Watched topics" list. Don't miss any update of our EPP2014.

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#2242166 - 03/06/14 11:31 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hello EPP members!

I'm going out for dinner with my wife at "Duetos da Sé" restaurant. I'm going to choose the menus to our buffet and talk with the manager about some details of our EPP... and, of course, to hear my wife's opinion about the location (let's see if I can get a successful approval wink )

Meanwhile, here is the updated list of participants:


And the program is...


More news soon!
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#2242171 - 03/06/14 11:44 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Carlos, that's great - I will be interested in hearing what Ana thinks of it!
It looks really lovely and the menu looks interesting too!

I will be watching for your update! Enjoy your evening!
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#2244143 - 03/10/14 09:28 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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An update about the "wife's test" smile

My wife was a bit suspicious about the place but the friendliness of the owner was enough to leave her with a good impression. As she could see the space is very intimate, with mirrors, paintings hanging on the wall, and a floor lamp beside the piano. It looks like a living room of any ordinary house.

We ate "cod fish with toasted bread" and "pork cheeks with mashed vegetables" and my wife was delighted with the quality of the food. The owner - also called Carlos - offered us a few slices of smoked ham and some other things. Everything was very good.

So, we agreed that this is a nice location for us: it's inside a typical district of Lisbon, it's near the main Cathedral and the city center, the non-pianists can easily go for a walk, the room is large enough, the food is good, and the piano is "cool". yippie


About the price:
The price depends on the menu chosen for the buffet, but I think it will be a maximum of 30/35€ per person. This value includes free access to the (tuned!) piano, the food, the drinks, and the rent of the space between 01PM and 06PM - we don't want strangers with us, right? -. Making some quick sums, I would say that a typical meal costs about 20/25€ person, so we will pay more 5/10€ for the piano and for the exclusivity of the restaurant.

But don't take this information as a final price, because we are going to discuss the details and I think I'll manage to have a lower value. Btw. I've been doing some surveys in other locations and all prices are higher (mainly because we want to have the exclusivity of the space).

Anyway, I'd love to hear what do you think about this range of values.


Notice: These conditions apply to a minimum number of 20 guests... right now we have 18 guests confirmed (10+8), so we are almost reaching the "magic number". I don't know what's happening with RecaredoWouter D'hoye and Nikolas... Any news?


Edited by CarlosCC (03/10/14 09:39 AM)
Edit Reason: added "notice"
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#2244237 - 03/10/14 12:15 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Originally Posted By: CarlosCC

The price depends on the menu chosen for the buffet, but I think it will be a maximum of 30/35€ per person. This value includes free access to the (tuned!) piano, the food, the drinks, and the rent of the space between 01PM and 06PM - we don't want strangers with us, right? -. Making some quick sums, I would say that a typical meal costs about 20/25€ person, so we will pay more 5/10€ for the piano and for the exclusivity of the restaurant.


Count me in as for two persons. I will eat for two, I think. So it will be 19 persons who have confirmed until now.

The restaurants looks very good to me. It's an opportunity for me to taste the qualities of the chef. I'm a apprentice in the kitchen and I would like to eat a lot, just to expand my reference of taste (good music, good people, new food, foreign country). I think it's worth the investment for me. grin
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#2244590 - 03/11/14 05:19 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Sounds great!

Still need to get some more practicing in as I keep putting other things first, at this rate I won't have a piece to play (can't have that!)

On a side note, I have finally managed to get hold of the documents needed to apply for a passport, fingers crossed I'll have the application ready and sent shortly.
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#2245807 - 03/13/14 08:59 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Hi!

I’d really like to attend the piano party, but as told in RST I have to go back to University to do some studies. I’ll have classes and probably exams in July and these duties have to be compatible with work and family.

So I’m afraid I can’t go to Lisbon on that date. I hope you enjoy this party. I’ll miss you all.
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#2246057 - 03/13/14 04:52 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Recaredo, I'm sorry to hear you won't be joining us - what a pity!!!

However, what a good reason for not coming !
Best wishes to you for the success of your courses!
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#2246369 - 03/14/14 07:01 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Do children get a discount? smile

And: is it ok if I don't announce my piece till later on?
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#2246434 - 03/14/14 09:54 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Thanks Cheryl for your post!
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#2246444 - 03/14/14 10:09 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Recaredo - I was hoping you'd come to the party because Lisbon is not too far from the south of Spain... Anyway, I fully understand your reasons. All the best for you, your family, and your studies thumb


torquenale - I've 3 guests too (wife, +2 kids), so I understand your concern. As I told, the final price will be discussed with the manager and, one of my goals, is to get a "regular meal price" for the guests; in other words, the fairest option is: a "guest" will pay only for the meal.
So, I'll do everything possible to get the best price in order to be fair for all of us - the pianists and the guests -. But, there are more options to discuss which can change the logic behind the price...

And of course it's OK! You don't even need to announce your piece in advance.


The updated list:

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#2247665 - 03/16/14 09:46 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Recaredo, too bad you'll have to miss this piano party. Maybe next year (Italy?, epp3), you'll have the opportunity to come within your study scheme.
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#2249256 - 03/20/14 04:37 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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ok agree

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#2251798 - 03/25/14 08:25 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Just curious, but how long are people planning to stay? just to get a rough idea...
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#2251811 - 03/25/14 08:57 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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First of all, what IS confirmed is that I'm alone on this. My wife is away! That's settled! grin

Now, my problem is that I've been watching for cheap flights and simply can't find any. The cheapest one available for Fri - Mon or anything like that is 319 euros (so $440), which is a little steep, considering I'd have to get a single room for 2 or 3 nights which would be another few hundred... and I can't be cheap with my travels, so I'd like to get some tapas, some wine, beer, etc, or whatever it is you're having.

So, here's what I propose:

If you want to spend a couple of minutes and scout the Internet for cheap flights from Athens (GR) to Lisbon (Pg) I'd love to hear from you and possibly book the flight straight away.

I don't know if I'm asking too much or what not, but I WANT to come! I honestly do!
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#2251822 - 03/25/14 09:29 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Nicolas - I'm glad you're able to join us!!! thumb
I found some flights in http://www.edreams.com/ website and the cheapest it's €300: Athens to Lisbon on the 04-July returning on the 06-July (direct flight, no transfers). If you don't mind about transfers you'll find lower prices. If you change the dates you may also find some differences.
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#2251825 - 03/25/14 09:31 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Nikolas, I found a flight with expedia.com for 314 dollars (I suppose it is US dollars) I couldn't find a way to convert on the website but it should be about 225 in euros.

I also looked at other Airlines - but the prices were higher.
We are travelling with TAP and got a good deal (132 euros each) but we booked months ago. Unfortunately you couldn't be sure of travelling until now frown
I hope you can find something that fits the budget !!!

UKIkarus - Some of us are arriving on Thursday, some on Friday some are staying til Monday or Tuesday - I suspect some will be leaving on Sunday to be back at work on Monday.
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#2251831 - 03/25/14 09:53 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Ok, so we have a new confirmation - Nikolas!!! - and I have a friend who also loves piano and I think I'll invite him to join us.


Now, let's find a flight for Nikolas.




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#2251832 - 03/25/14 09:56 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Carlos, it would be great to meet your friend! I do hope that Nikolas can confirm 100%-- I think it depends on getting good prices for the flights - if he can grab something soon... I think it will work! yipee!
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#2251875 - 03/25/14 01:01 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: Nikolas]
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Originally Posted By: Nikolas
First of all, what IS confirmed is that I'm alone on this. My wife is away! That's settled! grin

Now, my problem is that I've been watching for cheap flights and simply can't find any. The cheapest one available for Fri - Mon or anything like that is 319 euros (so $440), which is a little steep, considering I'd have to get a single room for 2 or 3 nights which would be another few hundred... and I can't be cheap with my travels, so I'd like to get some tapas, some wine, beer, etc, or whatever it is you're having.

So, here's what I propose:

If you want to spend a couple of minutes and scout the Internet for cheap flights from Athens (GR) to Lisbon (Pg) I'd love to hear from you and possibly book the flight straight away.

I don't know if I'm asking too much or what not, but I WANT to come! I honestly do!


You can always try

http://www.skyscanner.net/transport/flig...2014.html?rtn=1

changing where necessary.

On a side note: £450-500 for flight/hotel etc seems to be average for me from what I have found... hopefully just a little longer and I'll be good to book laugh



Edited by UKIkarus (03/25/14 01:04 PM)
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#2252882 - 03/27/14 08:38 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Due to changing priorities, I'm afraid I won't be attending the piano party after all. Please take me off the list. Apologies for letting you all down.
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#2253201 - 03/27/14 05:54 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Allard, it is a real pity you won't be joining us. Sorry to hear it.
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#2253463 - 03/28/14 10:55 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Well Allard, what a pity... Maybe you can attend next time. Anyway, priorities are priorities; no need to apologize.

So, the updated list is:




NOTICE:
Put this thread in your "Watched topics" list. Don't miss any update of our EPP2014.

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#2254201 - 03/30/14 10:39 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Spoke too soon, get paid end of month and flight prices jumped up... if only I had the funds to pay last week >.< (Doh!)
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#2255468 - 04/01/14 05:22 PM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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Nikolas-- any luck?

UKIkarus - I hope you're still planning to attend?
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#2255769 - 04/02/14 03:57 AM Re: European Piano Party 2014 LISBON [Re: CarlosCC]
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still working on it yes smile
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