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#2150451 - 09/15/13 08:55 AM does the coarse(like ivory) keyboard do bad to hand feel?
bluezer Offline
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Registered: 09/14/13
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I am looking at kayserburg KA132,which sounds good but its keys is coarse,both white and black part,unlike others just coarse at black part.
It is designed to imitate ivory,and to avoid hand sliding,but I doubt that it have any good to a 6yr old beginner,maybe do bad to hand feel?
Thanks in advance.

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#2150465 - 09/15/13 09:30 AM Re: does the coarse(like ivory) keyboard do bad to hand feel? [Re: bluezer]
Morodiene Offline
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I am not familiar with this piano, so please bear that in mind.

One pianos with ivory keys, only the white keys have a bit of texture. The ivory feel provides for a little more grip to it than plastic caps. I appreciate that more and more piano manufacturers are trying to simulate the ivory feel.

How could this be a bad thing for a 6 year old, or anyone at any age or level of playing? I see no problem with this feature.
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#2150498 - 09/15/13 11:10 AM Re: does the coarse(like ivory) keyboard do bad to hand feel? [Re: Morodiene]
bluezer Offline
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Thank you and your reply do help.
Here is more info about the key and piano: genuine Ebony sharps and patented keytops of mineral components nicknamed "Ecory" (Eco-Ivory). http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2021907/1.html
I don't know what's the ivory feel,but I get stone feel,just small bit feel,but the anti-sliding feel is obvious.

I ask this question in other forum,someone told me that many play techs depend on smooth white key,is that true?

Would you tell me which famous manufature(s) is producing ivory feel piano?


Edited by bluezer (09/15/13 11:32 AM)

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#2150552 - 09/15/13 02:30 PM Re: does the coarse(like ivory) keyboard do bad to hand feel? [Re: bluezer]
Morodiene Offline
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Originally Posted By: bluezer
Thank you and your reply do help.
Here is more info about the key and piano: genuine Ebony sharps and patented keytops of mineral components nicknamed "Ecory" (Eco-Ivory). http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2021907/1.html
I don't know what's the ivory feel,but I get stone feel,just small bit feel,but the anti-sliding feel is obvious.

I ask this question in other forum,someone told me that many play techs depend on smooth white key,is that true?
I'm afraid I don't understand this part.

Quote:
Would you tell me which famous manufature(s) is producing ivory feel piano?
From Yamaha's website regarding the CX series:
Quote:
In order to provide the best playability possible, CX Series grand pianos offer
white keys made of Ivorite™, which has a feel, color, and absorbency very similar
to natural ivory, while natural ebony has been used for the black keys.


From Kawai's website regarding the RX series:
Quote:
NEOTEX™ Key Surfaces
Kawai's exclusive NEOTEX key surface material made of cellulose fiber offers the smooth, understated texture of natural ivory and ebony – and a semi-porous, silica-filled surface to absorb the hand's natural oils and perspiration. Since NEOTEX is used for both the sharps and naturals, the feel of the keys is consistent across the entire keyboard. NEOTEX resists cracking and fading over years of use – and is static-resistant to help prevent the build-up of unwanted dust. The result is a beautiful, long-lasting key surface with exceptional playability.

From Steinway's website re: Boston pianos:
Quote:
Genuine spruce, individually balanced and weighted. Synthetic ivory and ebony key covers. New synthetic ebony has ebony-like surface texture and appearance that absorbs perspiration from the fingers. The fine synthetic ivory of the white keys has the same properties of friction, porosity, conductivity, and appearance as ivory.


There are many other great piano manufacturers out there, I just selected a few. The ideal has always been the ivory keys, and technology has allowed manufacturers to provide it without having to harm/kill animals.
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#2151210 - 09/16/13 10:55 AM Re: does the coarse(like ivory) keyboard do bad to hand feel? [Re: Morodiene]
bluezer Offline
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Registered: 09/14/13
Posts: 5
Loc: guandong,china
Thank you very much,your reply is very helpful,sorry for my broken english blush

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#2152881 - 09/18/13 10:18 AM Re: does the coarse(like ivory) keyboard do bad to hand feel? [Re: bluezer]
Alan Lai Offline
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Registered: 09/16/13
Posts: 309
Loc: USA/Hong Kong
Originally Posted By: bluezer
I am looking at kayserburg KA132,which sounds good but its keys is coarse,both white and black part,unlike others just coarse at black part.
It is designed to imitate ivory,and to avoid hand sliding,but I doubt that it have any good to a 6yr old beginner,maybe do bad to hand feel?
Thanks in advance.

A simple answer for your question: NO.

Professional pianists actually do prefer the touch of ivory, which prevents slipperiness.

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