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thanks Athdara. i hv a p95 already so it looks like buying a normal acoustic piano would be better for us.

thanks snoopycar. will doing this void the warranty of the piano if i choose to purchase a brand new upright?

This question have to check with the other party.
its just installing a stopper bar on the damper rail
adding a sensor rail under the keys
add sensor for damper pedal
add a level to activate the stopper rail
add the controll unit
adj the let off earlier.

a lot of people have unfounded fear.
No need to fear, the choice is yours.

some people in the first year already ban
the brand tuner due to lack of certain reason,
care less about what ever warranty.
What can spoil on a piano?

Even you buy new, ever read the actual warranty?
Parts free, tpt and labour applies.
Some warranty 10 years, but only applies on the iron frame

Just like car, changing sport rims or tyres void warranty .. hehe

Possibly, but not necessarily so.

It seems to depend on maker: generally there is less care and attention to quality details since pianos in South East Asia compete primarily by price point or cost.

In contrast, both Brodmann and Ritmueller have German made pianos only available in China. [until now]

Perhaps the manufacturers think needing this for promotional purposes there, something seemingly less important in North America.

My 2 cents.

Norbert

that's true.

Hi, I've been reading this thread for a while and thought I'll say hi.

I have been learning piano for 1 + year on a digital piano, and figured I'll like to get an acoustic piano.

I loved the sound of the Schimmel pianos, which made me raise my budget to 20k.
Noticed several posts about trying Sauter, I called Alvin and was told to call back in mid Oct.
I dropped by Steinway, and loved the V132. Somehow I felt more relax playing it... But it's out of my budget.
I dropped by Robert Piano at Millenia and was given great service. The K8 sounded rather overwhelming for me as my ears didn't feel so comfortable when I hit the higher octaves. The K6 was more comfortable to my ears. The salesperson mentioned that because of the carbon action, the piano is less susceptible to moisture, which I rather fancy. Though I wonder if it's really true, 'cause it will be less of a hassle since I won't be turning air-con 24x7.

Thanks for reading my rumblings...

the problem, the action is not the only component in a piano that is made of wood. what about other critical structural parts like soundboard, pinblock, bridge and so on...

Me too. it's the German made model, right?

Norbert

Now, but it used to be made in New York.

To save wood material or improve stability, why not make the keys from carbon material too? wink wink

The most common uses for carbon fiber are in applications where high strength to weight and high stiffness to weight are desirable.

These are qualities which are certainly not sought after in piano keys..

Carbon is not very impact resistant so each time I would hit a note I would be anxious not to break it

Thanks Jay, Snoopycar.

Yes I agree that just the action being non-wood is not gonna affect the effect of humidity on the piano as a whole. Must have been wishful thinking...

Thanks wimpiano. I will keep that in mind

Hello sgcasey,

Your post got me excited; I'm also playing on a digital piano now, then I did exactly what you're doing about a month ago. I love the sound of Schimmel pianos too, especially the K132, and my initial budget of 12k for a yamaha skyrocketed to 30k, and when I dropped by Steinway, for a moment I entertained the idea of paying beyond 70k by installments for their k132 or v125 then I figured I was completely nuts, and scaled down the budget. I've also visited Robert Piano at Millenia, where the salesperson was really keen on their K8. Do contact Alvin to at least take a look at the Sauter before making a decision; it'll be worth exploring. Good luck!

Thanks Athdara,

Sounds like you have gotten your piano

So how do the pianos hold up in that Singapore heat and humidity?

I've had no problems with the humidity (heat itself is not really an issue). Unlike in Europe/the USA, there are no wild fluctuations in humidity. Using a heating rail inside an upright (or two inside a grand) and a dehumidifier in the room with the piano does the trick.

How does temperature and humidity affect pianos in Singapore?
It depends on the definition of "hold up". What is the opposite? Fall apart?

In a non aircon apartments in sg, typical temp/RH, 29-32degC 70-85RH

What are some of the symptoms of a hold up problems?
Is it sound related like loss of tonal balance, projection, deaden? Soundboard blug?

Or is it mechanical issues flange pin pitting, string rust?
Is sticky key cause by tight keyfront bush consider a hold-up failure?

Or finishing issues like crack/wrap polyester?
Some European piano hv external finishing problems, but continue to produce sonorous tone.

Or act of nature cases like termites, silverfish, rats, lizard, cockroachs infestation.

What problems have you heard that you are trying to verify with other?
in which country, there is no "hold-up" problems?

If anyone is interested in an upright Schimmel C124 T with silent action (2.5 years old), please PM me for details/pics.

Its been so long since anyone posted !!

Busy with practising Yiruma pieces ??