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#2165558 - 10/13/13 07:56 AM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Sorry, everyone. I see my absence was noticed. Two weeks is a long time. grin

I am currently updating the list.
Yay! Glad you're back smile
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#2165613 - 10/13/13 10:53 AM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Poly, I'm glad you are back. Wondering what would happen to the recital.
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#2166077 - 10/14/13 01:27 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: FarmGirl]
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Originally Posted By: FarmGirl
Poly, I'm glad you are back. Wondering what would happen to the recital.

Nice to know that's the only reason people care whether I'm here or not.
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#2166179 - 10/14/13 04:11 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Poly,
At least your absence is noticed by many. Not sure if anyone notices if I disappear. Hope to get to know you better through the on-line recital and other posts. I'm so looking forward to hearing everyone's work. It is a great idea. Thanks
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#2166188 - 10/14/13 04:16 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: FarmGirl]
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Originally Posted By: FarmGirl
Poly,
At least your absence is noticed by many. Not sure if anyone notices if I disappear. Hope to get to know you better through the on-line recital and other posts. I'm so looking forward to hearing everyone's work. It is a great idea. Thanks

Sorry if you took me seriously there - I was joking. Got to remember those smileys. grin
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#2166256 - 10/14/13 06:32 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Really sorry to have to do this, but I have to back-out, sorry again guys, KK IVb No 4 in Ab major's up for grabs x

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#2166292 - 10/14/13 08:03 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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NEW LIST - CURRENT AS OF OCTOBER 14


Opus 6
No 1 in F# minor - Sam S
No 2 in C# minor - SwissMS
No 3 in E major - AZNpiano
No 4 in Eb minor - Roland the Beagle

Opus 7
No 1 in Bb major - WinsomeAllegretto
No 2 in A minor - Brad Hoehne
No 3 in F minor - Cinnamonbear
No 4 in Ab major - Cinnamonbear
No 5 in C major - peterws

Opus 17
No 1 in Bb major - jeffreyjones
No 2 in E minor - Dipsy
No 3 in Ab major - jeffreyjones
No 4 in A minor - Valencia

Opus 24
No 1 in G minor - PrestoconFuocco
No 2 in C major - peterws
No 3 in Ab major - timmyab
No 4 in Bb minor - Derulux

Opus 30
No 1 in C minor - gutenberg
No 2 in B minor - TwoSnowflakes
No 3 in Db major - BruceD
No 4 in C# minor - jeffreyjones

Opus 33
No 1 in G# minor - Rupak Bhattacharya
No 2 in D major - carey
No 3 in C major - JoelW
No 4 in B minor - Tim Adrianson

Opus 41
No 1 in E minor - Kreisler
No 2 in B major - Polyphonist
No 3 in Ab major - Tim Adrianson
No 4 in C# minor - dire tonic

Opus 50
No 1 in G major - SlatterFan
No 2 in Ab major - La_plus
No 3 in C# minor - Damon

Opus 56
No 1 in B major - Morodiene
No 2 in C major - carey
No 3 in C minor - carey

Opus 59
No 1 in A minor - Ganddalf
No 2 in Ab major - carey
No 3 in F# minor - jeffreyjones

Opus 63
No 1 in B major - Ganddalf
No 2 in F minor - sandalholme
No 3 in C# minor - FarmGirl

Opus 67
No 1 in G major - Cinnamonbear
No 2 in G minor - FSO
No 3 in C major - Pavel.K
No 4 in A minor - jrcallan

Opus 68
No 1 in C major - Dipsy
No 2 in A minor - BruceD
No 3 in F major - Cinnamonbear
No 4 in F minor - dire tonic

Posthumous
KK IIa No 2 in G major - Lyricsoprano24
KK IIa No 3 in Bb major - AZNpiano
KK IIb No 4 in A minor - VACANT
KK IIb No 5 in A minor - Morodiene
KK IVb No 1 in Bb major - VACANT
KK IVb No 2 in D major - VACANT
KK IVb No 3 in C major - VACANT

KK IVb No 4 in Ab major - VACANT



IMPORTANT: When you submit your performance, please send a private message addressed to both Derulux (make sure you spell it right!) and myself. Make the title "Mazurka Recital Submission - Opus 41 No 2" or whatever your piece is. Then in the body of the post simply embed or link to your video/recording, and if you need a blurb about your piece please keep it to a minimum - we don't need "This isn't very good" or "I didn't have very much time to record" or similar preambles.
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#2166467 - 10/15/13 03:00 AM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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What is the reason for the low interest of the remaining posthumous Mazurkas? Are they boring? Technically difficult? Or perhaps the problem is that it is difficult to get hold of the sheet music like in my case (I’m an oldie and therefore I’m excused, but I have the impression that many forum participants are capable of finding everything on the web).

Anyhow I was able to spot two of these pieces. One is K IVb No.4 in Ab-Major. This piece gives some training for the outer fingers of the right hand, but not awfully demanding technically. Musically perhaps not the most interesting, but it has its own charm.

The second one I found was one in C-major. I’m not 100% sure that this is K IVb No.3. In the score is written (German) “Band XIII No.8” (Composed 1838 and published in 1880). This piece sounds more like a typical Chopin Mazurka than the one in Ab-Major. Unfortunately the left hand has some repeated chords spanning a major tenth interval, and therefore it is out of question for me. Anyhow, somebody should play it.

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#2166964 - 10/16/13 02:10 AM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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*Fine* laugh Um...if nobody objects, I'll take the Ab Major, provided the insistence that if anyone else wants it they can have it (me and majors don't mix so well... laugh )
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#2167021 - 10/16/13 07:21 AM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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NEW LIST - CURRENT AS OF OCTOBER 16


Opus 6
No 1 in F# minor - Sam S
No 2 in C# minor - SwissMS
No 3 in E major - AZNpiano
No 4 in Eb minor - Roland the Beagle

Opus 7
No 1 in Bb major - WinsomeAllegretto
No 2 in A minor - Brad Hoehne
No 3 in F minor - Cinnamonbear
No 4 in Ab major - Cinnamonbear
No 5 in C major - peterws

Opus 17
No 1 in Bb major - jeffreyjones
No 2 in E minor - Dipsy
No 3 in Ab major - jeffreyjones
No 4 in A minor - Valencia

Opus 24
No 1 in G minor - PrestoconFuocco
No 2 in C major - peterws
No 3 in Ab major - timmyab
No 4 in Bb minor - Derulux

Opus 30
No 1 in C minor - gutenberg
No 2 in B minor - TwoSnowflakes
No 3 in Db major - BruceD
No 4 in C# minor - jeffreyjones

Opus 33
No 1 in G# minor - Rupak Bhattacharya
No 2 in D major - carey
No 3 in C major - JoelW
No 4 in B minor - Tim Adrianson

Opus 41
No 1 in E minor - Kreisler
No 2 in B major - Polyphonist
No 3 in Ab major - Tim Adrianson
No 4 in C# minor - dire tonic

Opus 50
No 1 in G major - SlatterFan
No 2 in Ab major - VACANT
No 3 in C# minor - Damon

Opus 56
No 1 in B major - Morodiene
No 2 in C major - carey
No 3 in C minor - carey

Opus 59
No 1 in A minor - Ganddalf
No 2 in Ab major - carey
No 3 in F# minor - jeffreyjones

Opus 63
No 1 in B major - Ganddalf
No 2 in F minor - sandalholme
No 3 in C# minor - FarmGirl

Opus 67
No 1 in G major - Cinnamonbear
No 2 in G minor - FSO
No 3 in C major - Pavel.K
No 4 in A minor - jrcallan

Opus 68
No 1 in C major - Dipsy
No 2 in A minor - BruceD
No 3 in F major - Cinnamonbear
No 4 in F minor - dire tonic

Posthumous
KK IIa No 2 in G major - Lyricsoprano24
KK IIa No 3 in Bb major - AZNpiano
KK IIb No 4 in A minor - Vid
KK IIb No 5 in A minor - Morodiene
KK IVb No 1 in Bb major - VACANT
KK IVb No 2 in D major - VACANT
KK IVb No 3 in C major - VACANT

KK IVb No 4 in Ab major - FSO



IMPORTANT: When you submit your performance, please send a private message addressed to both Derulux (make sure you spell it right!) and myself. Make the title "Mazurka Recital Submission - Opus 41 No 2" or whatever your piece is. Then in the body of the post simply embed or link to your video/recording, and if you need a blurb about your piece please keep it to a minimum - we don't need "This isn't very good" or "I didn't have very much time to record" or similar preambles.
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#2167045 - 10/16/13 08:00 AM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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You can remove La_plus from the list.

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#2167135 - 10/16/13 11:14 AM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Are you sure he was banned and not just suspended?
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#2167160 - 10/16/13 12:08 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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He was me.

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#2167165 - 10/16/13 12:14 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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You created another account? Or changed the name of this one?
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#2167176 - 10/16/13 12:32 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
You created another account? Or changed the name of this one?


It was a second account.

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#2167342 - 10/16/13 05:37 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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So is the deadline still tomorrow?? YIKES!

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#2167347 - 10/16/13 05:53 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: jeffreyjones]
JoelW Online   content
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Originally Posted By: jeffreyjones
So is the deadline still tomorrow?? YIKES!


I can't make it then.

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#2167355 - 10/16/13 06:12 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: jeffreyjones]
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Originally Posted By: jeffreyjones
So is the deadline still tomorrow?? YIKES!

No; the deadline is two months from today.
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#2167365 - 10/16/13 06:49 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Whew. OK, I was going through the first couple of pages and had a bit of a panic.

I have a business trip Dec 11-13, so I'll probably need to get it done by then unless I can find somewhere to record it in Las Vegas.

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#2167413 - 10/16/13 09:16 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Is it too late to join?

I was thinking of attempting KK IIb No 4 in A minor - which I think I also listed as B. 134 - is that right?
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#2167424 - 10/16/13 09:34 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Vid]
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Is it too late to join?

I was thinking of attempting KK IIb No 4 in A minor - which I think I also listed as B. 134 - is that right?

Yes.
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#2167668 - 10/17/13 11:25 AM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Does anyone have a general recommendation for fingering? I've got a couple of editions fingered by Rafael Joseffy. Is there anyone who's considered to do a better job of it?

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#2167692 - 10/17/13 12:48 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: dire tonic]
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Originally Posted By: dire tonic
Does anyone have a general recommendation for fingering? I've got a couple of editions fingered by Rafael Joseffy. Is there anyone who's considered to do a better job of it?

Not sure about published editions (there are much better people in here than me for that sort of information). But if you have a passage you want me to take a look at, I can help that way. smile
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#2167708 - 10/17/13 01:37 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Derulux]
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Originally Posted By: Derulux
Originally Posted By: dire tonic
Does anyone have a general recommendation for fingering? I've got a couple of editions fingered by Rafael Joseffy. Is there anyone who's considered to do a better job of it?

Not sure about published editions (there are much better people in here than me for that sort of information). But if you have a passage you want me to take a look at, I can help that way. smile


For the most part there's nothing too suprising but now and again I see something weird which may or may not have an underlying logic not immediately apparent (to me!).

I've been a bit slow to get a start on these so when I'm more stuck in I'll pick out one or two things and perhaps you could see what you think?

- cheers Derulux!

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#2167743 - 10/17/13 03:03 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: dire tonic]
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Originally Posted By: dire tonic
Originally Posted By: Derulux
Originally Posted By: dire tonic
Does anyone have a general recommendation for fingering? I've got a couple of editions fingered by Rafael Joseffy. Is there anyone who's considered to do a better job of it?

Not sure about published editions (there are much better people in here than me for that sort of information). But if you have a passage you want me to take a look at, I can help that way. smile


For the most part there's nothing too suprising but now and again I see something weird which may or may not have an underlying logic not immediately apparent (to me!).

I've been a bit slow to get a start on these so when I'm more stuck in I'll pick out one or two things and perhaps you could see what you think?

- cheers Derulux!


Absolutely, I'd be happy to. smile
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#2167764 - 10/17/13 03:55 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Well, sometimes with fingering you just do what makes sense to you. Other times, you do encounter something that seems rather pointless until you get it up to tempo! Of course, by then it's harder to change the fingering. So feel free to ask questions about weird fingerings early on before it makes an issue for you. smile
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#2168792 - 10/20/13 06:37 AM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Morodiene]
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Sometimes you utilize your fingers in dynamic fashion (almost guessing at the note aimed for, your arm moves lol) other times, your hand is static almost. . . without which, you would play more than one key!

Wi this Chopin piece I`m doing, I have to keep my arm and hand carefully positioned to obtain a clear sound, at speed. And I get a wave of heat expelling from my person; eek I think my brain`s working too hard. But I love it!

Don`t stand too close to me. . . blush


Edited by peterws (10/20/13 06:42 AM)
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#2169172 - 10/20/13 10:32 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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I remembered that I had a big hardcover Cyril Lemoine edition of the Chopin Mazurkas, looked through it and it has all of the Mazurkas.. even the ones that are still in the public domain because they were first published in the 20th century. I remember playing them before, but at a time when I didn't have that book, so I'm guessing my old Alfred that I threw away also had them.

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#2170589 - 10/23/13 11:51 AM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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I wonder sometimes why the composer did not publish those ph ones. Did he not like it? They are beautiful too. Did he not have enough time and energy to publish because he was dying? Or did he misplace them?
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#2170687 - 10/23/13 03:17 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: FarmGirl]
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Originally Posted By: FarmGirl
I wonder sometimes why the composer did not publish those ph ones. Did he not like it? They are beautiful too. Did he not have enough time and energy to publish because he was dying? Or did he misplace them?


There is a gap in sophistication and polish between the published and unpublished Mazurkas, and other works for that matter. They are pretty, but they don't have the same substance and impact. Consider the Fantasie-Impromptu - I wouldn't want to delete it from the repertoire, for sure, but neither would I include it in a serious concert unless I was playing the three published ones as well.

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