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#2152240 - 09/17/13 03:07 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Morodiene]
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Originally Posted By: Morodiene
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: Piano*Dad
Maybe you'll reconsider the deadline if there are too many unclaimed pieces?

Yes, I will. But I will try opening it up for seconds and thirds first. smile


Why is this such a hard thing to do? From my count, there's only one definitely in favor of the Oct. 16 deadline, with Derelux stating having 2 deadlines, so I guess that counts, and Bruce D. and one other poster signing up officially, so that's maybe 3 people OK with Oct. 16, and then you have 8 or 9 including myself saying we'd like a bit more time.

So far, it seems there are quite a few people bothered by the short time frame. What is the reason for this? If you can learn a piece in that amount of time, great, record it and have it done early. I have yet to see a good argument for getting the recital deadline so soon, and lots of arguments for allowing more time.

Derulux mad and myself are discussing this. We will get back to you; right now it seems likely that we will be moving the deadline back.
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#2152243 - 09/17/13 03:07 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Mwm]
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Originally Posted By: Mwm
Please recommend good editions of the Mazurkas.

Thanks

Henle.
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#2152246 - 09/17/13 03:11 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: TwoSnowflakes]
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Originally Posted By: TwoSnowflakes
Originally Posted By: Derulux
Originally Posted By: TwoSnowflakes
I would LOVE to participate, especially since I a) love the mazurkas, and b) my teacher suggested we pick one of these up as a next piece to work on.

So I don't have one I play yet, and since I'm not exactly that advanced, do you guys have any to suggest that aren't already taken but would be do-able in a month for someone like me? It's taking me at least that long to get to non-panic state on most of my pieces, so I'm a little apprehensive of a month timeframe.

ETA: What about Op. 30 No. 2 (b minor)?

I think that might be okay. It's a 2-pager, and wasn't that hard for me to grasp the concept under my fingers when I read through it. In general, I think the lower the opus number, the easier the piece. There are quite a few difficult mazurkas in the later groups. (Of course, there are some difficult ones in the early groups, too, so take this with a canister of salt.)


Oh, good. I'll see what I can do with it tonight and if it looks like I could maybe wrestle it to the ground in four weeks, I'll take it! Assuming nobody else does, since I haven't yet officially claimed it.

Well, you're down for it. Notify us as soon as possible if you wish to change pieces.
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#2152253 - 09/17/13 03:22 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: -Frycek
Just FYI. This has been done. The "ABF folks" held a three part Mazurka Marathon over the course of a year about five years ago, We played ALL of them, not just the easier ones as "we" have so graciously been offered

I never offered anyone any easy ones. And is this an issue for anyone, that this has been done already? I didn't know...


Re easier mazurkas-- that was Carey om the last page -- please forgive me for feeling a bit churlish at 4 this morning. I tried to delete after I woke up and thought better of it.
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#2152256 - 09/17/13 03:24 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: -Frycek]
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Originally Posted By: -Frycek
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: -Frycek
Just FYI. This has been done. The "ABF folks" held a three part Mazurka Marathon over the course of a year about five years ago, We played ALL of them, not just the easier ones as "we" have so graciously been offered

I never offered anyone any easy ones. And is this an issue for anyone, that this has been done already? I didn't know...


Re easier mazurkas-- that was Carey om the last page -- please forgive me for feeling a bit churlish at 4 this morning. I tried to delete after I woke up and thought better of it.

Last page? I only see one page. Anyway, it's not an issue. Which one shall I put you down for, Frycek? smile
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#2152286 - 09/17/13 04:10 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: Morodiene
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: Piano*Dad
Maybe you'll reconsider the deadline if there are too many unclaimed pieces?

Yes, I will. But I will try opening it up for seconds and thirds first. smile


Why is this such a hard thing to do? From my count, there's only one definitely in favor of the Oct. 16 deadline, with Derelux stating having 2 deadlines, so I guess that counts, and Bruce D. and one other poster signing up officially, so that's maybe 3 people OK with Oct. 16, and then you have 8 or 9 including myself saying we'd like a bit more time.

So far, it seems there are quite a few people bothered by the short time frame. What is the reason for this? If you can learn a piece in that amount of time, great, record it and have it done early. I have yet to see a good argument for getting the recital deadline so soon, and lots of arguments for allowing more time.

Derulux mad and myself are discussing this. We will get back to you; right now it seems likely that we will be moving the deadline back.
Thank you. smile
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#2152340 - 09/17/13 05:35 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Committing to a piece is the point -- why all the other discourse? It takes an hour to figure out who' committing to what.

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#2152341 - 09/17/13 05:36 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: -Frycek]
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Originally Posted By: -Frycek
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: -Frycek
Just FYI. This has been done. The "ABF folks" held a three part Mazurka Marathon over the course of a year about five years ago, We played ALL of them, not just the easier ones as "we" have so graciously been offered

I never offered anyone any easy ones. And is this an issue for anyone, that this has been done already? I didn't know...


Re easier mazurkas-- that was Carey om the last page -- please forgive me for feeling a bit churlish at 4 this morning. I tried to delete after I woke up and thought better of it.


And just to clarify - my intent in making the suggestion that the "ABF folks" be given first crack at the easier Mazurkas was made out of a sincere desire to be "inclusive." Since some ABF members have been playing for less than two years, their choices here may be somewhat limited. If more experienced players - who still consider themselves adult beginners - want to tackle the more difficult Mazurkas (and there are plenty to select from) then by all means they should do so. grin

I'm pleased to know that the "ABF folks" held the full Mazurka marathon about five years ago. Hopefully a good number of those individuals will participate again.
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#2152344 - 09/17/13 05:38 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: jrcallan]
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Originally Posted By: jrcallan
Committing to a piece is the point -- why all the other discourse? It takes an hour to figure out who' committing to what.

No it doesn't, unless it takes you an hour to scroll to the top of the page and scan down the list.
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#2152368 - 09/17/13 06:11 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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If I count correctly, there are 57 Mazurkas to choose from.

Would it be possible (or is it considered too early at this point) to select up to 2 works ??

If so, I'd like to tackle both...

Opus 56 No. 3
and
Opus 59 No. 2

If not, I guess I'll just need to pick one for the e-cital and record the other for fun.

Please advise - thanks !!
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#2152407 - 09/17/13 07:38 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: carey]
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Originally Posted By: carey
If I count correctly, there are 57 Mazurkas to choose from.

Would it be possible (or is it considered too early at this point) to select up to 2 works ??

If so, I'd like to tackle both...

Opus 56 No. 3
and
Opus 59 No. 2

If not, I guess I'll just need to pick one for the e-cital and record the other for fun.

Please advise - thanks !!


Yes, we're removing that restriction. Have fun. smile
Let me make that official.
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#2152412 - 09/17/13 07:43 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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ATTENTION PLEASE EVERYONE:

We are now accepting multiple submissions from each member. So pick as many as you want, as long as you can commit to them all. smile
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#2152502 - 09/17/13 09:08 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Here's me playing the famous A minor one. It looks like Horowitz playing but it's actually my playing dubbed over his. You're hearing me.



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#2152507 - 09/17/13 09:11 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Joel, you aren't supposed to be posting your performances in this thread. You submit them to us privately, and we post them all together at the end. Take it down, please.

Also, the 17/4 has already been selected, as can be seen on the list at the top of this thread. Please choose another if you wish to participate.
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#2152511 - 09/17/13 09:13 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Oh, whoops. (it was a joke anyway grin)

By the way: I call opus 33/3!

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#2152520 - 09/17/13 09:19 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: JoelW]
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Oh, whoops. (it was a joke anyway grin)

By the way: I call opus 33/3!

Ha - I didn't quite catch that. Sorry.

33/3 - you got it.
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#2152523 - 09/17/13 09:26 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Deleted. I was far too ambitious.


Edited by dynamobt (09/17/13 09:32 PM)
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#2152530 - 09/17/13 09:37 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: dynamobt]
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Deleted. I was far too ambitious.

What did you do? Enter for 44 of the 45 remaining Mazurkas? grin
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#2152531 - 09/17/13 09:39 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Just one. But then, sat down and tried to sightread it. Nope. I was correct that I have too much on my plate now to tackle one of these.
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#2152532 - 09/17/13 09:40 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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When is the due date?

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#2152535 - 09/17/13 09:41 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Too soon!!
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#2152536 - 09/17/13 09:41 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: JoelW]
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When is the due date?

October 16, but liable to be moved back.
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#2152560 - 09/17/13 10:10 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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At least that will give me time to set up my microphone. laugh

The mazurka is one of the easiest, so I'm not pressed for time.

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#2152579 - 09/17/13 10:39 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
ATTENTION PLEASE EVERYONE:

We are now accepting multiple submissions from each member. So pick as many as you want, as long as you can commit to them all. smile


Will duplicate Mazurkas be allowed from multiple performers? In other words, can more than one person pick the same Mazurka? Just asking. The Beethoven e-cital encouraged it in order to be inclusive, citing interpretive diversity as a point of interest and a thing to be celebrated. Allowing it did not result in many duplicate representations, but it did allow some members to participate who otherwise would not have.
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#2152617 - 09/17/13 11:28 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Cinnamonbear]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
ATTENTION PLEASE EVERYONE:

We are now accepting multiple submissions from each member. So pick as many as you want, as long as you can commit to them all. smile


Will duplicate Mazurkas be allowed from multiple performers? In other words, can more than one person pick the same Mazurka? Just asking. The Beethoven e-cital encouraged it in order to be inclusive, citing interpretive diversity as a point of interest and a thing to be celebrated. Allowing it did not result in many duplicate representations, but it did allow some members to participate who otherwise would not have.

No, I don't think we will be doing duplicate Mazurkas. However, we are accepting unlimited recordings from each member.

Which one(s) are you doing, CB?
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#2152621 - 09/17/13 11:31 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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IMPORTANT:

Were we to move the due date back another month (quite likely now), how many people that aren't participating now would participate then? We'd like to get a quick headcount of this. smile
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#2152625 - 09/17/13 11:36 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
IMPORTANT:

Were we to move the due date back another month (quite likely now), how many people that aren't participating now would participate then? We'd like to get a quick headcount of this. smile


What was the reason for such a short turn-around time in the first place? Just asking.
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#2152626 - 09/17/13 11:39 PM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Cinnamonbear]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
IMPORTANT:

Were we to move the due date back another month (quite likely now), how many people that aren't participating now would participate then? We'd like to get a quick headcount of this. smile


What was the reason for such a short turn-around time in the first place? Just asking.

I don't really have a good answer - read the other threads if you want a better idea of it.
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#2152638 - 09/18/13 12:00 AM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: Cinnamonbear
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
IMPORTANT:

Were we to move the due date back another month (quite likely now), how many people that aren't participating now would participate then? We'd like to get a quick headcount of this. smile


What was the reason for such a short turn-around time in the first place? Just asking.

I don't really have a good answer - read the other threads if you want a better idea of it.


I have a very good idea of it. I'm hoping I'm not right.

Many of us, when we post a recording, want to present our best. That means, apart from having the piece up to performance par, we want the piano to be in tune ("Two weeks from Wednesday? Uh, sure. That will work. Thank you." O.K., now I gotta remember to use that vacation day... Or, do I have a personal day? Gotta check on that...), the recording equipment in place, ("Oh, h.ell! The batteries in my microphones are dead! Now I have to run to the store... Honey!!! I'll be right back!!! Do you need anything from the store???"), and a quiet time to record as many tries as it takes to get something we can live with that we know will be scrutinized by strangers as well as friends and that will stand the test of time, and all of this to fit somehow into everything else that is going on in our lives, such as working for a living, raising a family, going to school, etc., etc.

If you want to host a party this coming Saturday, and send out an invitation about it tomorrow, you might not have many people attend. Give a little more lead time, and you might just have a bash! Just sayin'. smile
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#2152642 - 09/18/13 12:02 AM Re: Chopin Mazurkas - Forum Recital! [Re: Cinnamonbear]
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Originally Posted By: Cinnamonbear
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: Cinnamonbear
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
IMPORTANT:

Were we to move the due date back another month (quite likely now), how many people that aren't participating now would participate then? We'd like to get a quick headcount of this. smile


What was the reason for such a short turn-around time in the first place? Just asking.

I don't really have a good answer - read the other threads if you want a better idea of it.


I have a very good idea of it. I'm hoping I'm not right.

Many of us, when we post a recording, want to present our best. That means, apart from having the piece up to performance par, we want the piano to be in tune ("Two weeks from Wednesday? Uh, sure. That will work. Thank you." O.K., now I gotta remember to use that vacation day... Or, do I have a personal day? Gotta check on that...), the recording equipment in place, ("Oh, h.ell! The batteries in my microphones are dead! Now I have to run to the store... Honey!!! I'll be right back!!! Do you need anything from the store???"), and a quiet time to record as many tries as it takes to get something we can live with that we know will be scrutinized by strangers as well as friends and that will stand the test of time, and all of this to fit somehow into everything else that is going on in our lives, such as working for a living, raising a family, going to school, etc., etc.

If you want to host a party this coming Saturday, and send out an invitation about it tomorrow, you might not have many people attend. Give a little more lead time, and you might just have a bash! Just sayin'. smile

We're thinking about it. We might do this: Push this date back to November, or December, or whatever we need to do, and start another smaller recital for the faster learners among us. smile
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