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#2153212 - 09/18/13 06:10 PM Combining VSTs
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So I finally have a decent DP so I don't need to bother with the PC anymore. But every now and then I still like to plug it in and play some tracks using some VSTs.
I read around in the internet that some people combine different piano VSTs, for example Pianoteq mixed with some sampled piano so you have the quality of the sampled piano plus all the good feeling, resonance, etc, of Pianoteq.
I was wandering if anyone here has any experience on combining VSTs in general and especially what you think about it.
It's stupid?
It's awesome?
Over to you.

I'm trying right now mixing Pianoteq with Galaxy Vintage D.
Pianoteq basically has no bass at all so the result of the merging sounds good. The problem is that, especially in the mid-range, the notes get that "honky-tonk sound" which is horrible. I guess it is because of the different overtones of the two VSTs? I'm not expert about this things (overtones/waves characteristics,etc).

P.S. = I don't need technical help about using a host and loading different VSTs or similar things, the topic is just for the sound quality aspects and the editing of the various parameters of the merged VSTs.

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#2153227 - 09/18/13 06:26 PM Re: Combining VSTs [Re: 255]
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255, If you have Pianoteq standard or pro you can adjust the intonation of pianoteq on a note per note basis. Locate the specific notes that sound odd (honkey-tonkey), and try matching pianoteq's intonation -for those specific notes- to Galaxy.

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#2153240 - 09/18/13 06:40 PM Re: Combining VSTs [Re: 255]
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It could be a phasing or key tracking issue. I find it best to layer AP sounds with EP, strings, pads, etc... AP & AP works in some cases, but you really fine tune it so they blend well.
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#2153308 - 09/18/13 08:08 PM Re: Combining VSTs [Re: Scott Hamlin]
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Originally Posted By: Scott Hamlin
phasing

Yep, could be.
But how to correct that?

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#2153315 - 09/18/13 08:26 PM Re: Combining VSTs [Re: 255]
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Originally Posted By: Scott Hamlin
phasing

Yep, could be.
But how to correct that?


You can try running them both in mono instead of stereo. Also make sure any effects like reverb are applied to the sum not the individual VSTI's. What eles? Resonance effects may contribute to this as well.... if both have it that can make it phase as well.. try turning that off for one or both if that is possible.
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#2153333 - 09/18/13 09:02 PM Re: Combining VSTs [Re: 255]
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Did some tweaking. Reducing string length in Pianoteq reduced the effect.
Dunno why.

The thread is still open, just saying.


Edited by 255 (09/19/13 06:23 AM)

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