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#2157491 - 09/25/13 02:57 PM Appassionata, Mephisto, Intermezzo and Haydn sonata
ecm Offline
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Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 1278
Loc: Republic of Macedonia
Hello dear friends and colleagues.
I should have probably post my recordings here instead of posting them at the Pianist Corner. But I remember the time when I joined the forums when people used to post at the Pianist Corner so out of habit I did exactly that. Well, here are some of my new non-commercial recordings I've been working on recently and of course I'm interested in hearing your helpful suggestions and comments!

L. van Beethoven - Sonata no.23 "Appassionata" op.57
1st Mvt.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjJfV6q4z1k
2nd and 3rd Mvt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRd1WM9yU3o
(the 3rd Mvt. beginning at 6:36 )

J. Haydn - Sonata no.47 Hob.XVI:32 b-minor
1st Mvt.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IJPuKJO9VA
2nd Mvt.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-Jjw79fbyg
3rd Mvt.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3-QEPlTI8g

J. Brahms - Intermezzo no.2 op.118 A-major

F. Liszt - Mephisto Waltz no.1

Thank you for your attention, wishing you all the best

#2159869 - 09/29/13 10:36 PM Re: Appassionata, Mephisto, Intermezzo and Haydn sonata [Re: ecm]
Pathbreaker Offline
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Registered: 09/18/04
Posts: 1232
Loc: Massachusetts
I have so far only listened to the Brahms, mostly because I used to play it. The late piano music, when played like this, is really quite magical. I find the piece difficult to play at the tempo you used without it dragging. But I think the tempo is preferable when done right. It brings you to a place and just holds you there and it would be great to just stay there indefinitely. I liked it.

#2160057 - 09/30/13 12:18 PM Re: Appassionata, Mephisto, Intermezzo and Haydn sonata [Re: ecm]
Michael Sayers Offline
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Registered: 02/15/13
Posts: 2320
Loc: Stockholms län, Sverige
Hi Dino,

I listened to the Liszt Mephisto Waltz No. 1 and like how you are quite engaged with the piece and showed some things I hadn't heard before. Usually with this Waltz one hears plenty of technique and not much of an interest in it as music.



#2160900 - 10/02/13 03:44 PM Re: Appassionata, Mephisto, Intermezzo and Haydn sonata [Re: ecm]
Louis Podesta Offline
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Registered: 02/05/13
Posts: 863
I will just comment on the Brahms because I have played it for 35 years.

First, you obviously have an affinity for Beethoven because that is what this piece sounds like. I have never heard anyone do that before with Brahms, but that is the impression I came away with.

What that means is that Brahms, unlike what some people think, is very straightforward in terms of what he wanted his music to sound like. He didn't like people overly messing with the dynamics or the tempo.

That doesn't mean that it isn't romantic music because it most definitely is. So, the first thing I would do is speed it up substantially. It is way too slow, which is what gives it the Beethoven effect.

Finally, which everyone disapproves of (like I care) I will leave you with a fairly conservative rendering of this piece. It is well thought out, it uses 19th century arppegiation and asynchronization, which is the way Brahms played it, and the tone is excellent.

I don't play it like this, but that isn't the point. The point is that Brahms music has to have a rhythmic flow, beautiful tone (which you have), and it has to have balance between the various sections (which you don't have).

Enjoy, and once you understand the concept, you will probably end up playing this piece much better than most.



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