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#2160899 - 10/02/13 03:35 PM Adult Beginner Success Stories
nickadams Offline
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Registered: 10/02/13
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EDIT:

I wish to delete this thread because it was poorly worded ("success stories") and did not turn out how I meant it at all.


Edited by nickadams (10/02/13 07:40 PM)

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#2160914 - 10/02/13 04:41 PM Re: Adult Beginner Success Stories [Re: nickadams]
spanishbuddha Offline
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Is that the definition of success? 4 years after 18, level 6-7 pieces and competently.

Bah humbug. Guess I'm a failure then.

I had not thought so before, nor my friends and family.

That is perhaps a measure of progress. Of sorts.

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#2160916 - 10/02/13 04:59 PM Re: Adult Beginner Success Stories [Re: spanishbuddha]
nickadams Offline
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Originally Posted By: spanishbuddha
Is that the definition of success? 4 years after 18, level 6-7 pieces and competently.


No, but I am looking for people who started in my situation (started playing music for the first time as an adult), and got to where I want to get (level 6-7 pieces competently after playing for over 4 years).

I would have said "have been playing longer than 6 years and can play level 6-7 pieces competently" but I didn't want to restrict responses any more than I already have. So don't think I expect to be playing level 7 pieces after 4 years (but that would be great if someone has accomplished that an can share!)



Edited by nickadams (10/02/13 05:02 PM)

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#2160919 - 10/02/13 05:05 PM Re: Adult Beginner Success Stories [Re: nickadams]
keystring Offline
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I already answered in the parallel thread on PianoStreet. That definition of success misleads the asker if aiming toward it, and it trivializes the real success that can be measured against true criteria of anyone who has made it, and worked hard to achieve it.

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#2160929 - 10/02/13 05:40 PM Re: Adult Beginner Success Stories [Re: nickadams]
nickadams Offline
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Please please please let's try not to make this thread a big controversy about definitions of success etc.

I am not trying to achieve anything other than have people post in here who fit the criteria in the OP, please don't make this thread anything beyond what it is.


EDIT: In fact, I think this thread could be very valuable to adult beginners just starting out because it can help temper their expectations. If they expect to be at level 6-7 after 5 or 6 years of playing, and then they come in this thread and see that out of all the adult beginners on this site, only a tiny tiny fraction have gotten to that point, it will be very enlightenting experience. On the other hand, if lots of people post ITT, then it can serve as great inspiration to adult beginners!!


Edited by nickadams (10/02/13 05:47 PM)

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#2160931 - 10/02/13 05:44 PM Re: Adult Beginner Success Stories [Re: nickadams]
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Although I agree to a certain extent with Keystring's comments, at the same time I think it's nice to have a definition of success that is not a comparison with professional musicians, and also that is not specific to a certain musical genre.

Also, I think I fit Nick's definition of success, so that's always nice! laugh

I started at the age of 30, I have now been playing piano for 14 years. I have some pieces that I can sit down and play from memory, and even more that I can sit down and play from a score. I have more than an hour's worth of music that I could share with/perform for someone. And I'm continually adding to that repertoire. I haven't made any recordings in a long time, but I think some of my recordings are still available through the link in my signature. I think I play much better now, but it doesn't make ultimately, because the recordings are just pieces along the way.

Even more important, piano is an important, and enduring, part of my life, and brings me joy beyond explanation. All other criteria aside, I would say this alone makes my story one of success. smile
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#2160936 - 10/02/13 06:02 PM Re: Adult Beginner Success Stories [Re: nickadams]
Toastie Offline
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I don't see why we have to redefine "success" all the time though. There's loads of types of success, nick hasn't implied otherwise; he's just looking for others in a similar position to him or where he'd like to get to. I'm sure you're not going to be turned away if you're desperate to share some other type of success, it's just that it wouldn't be too relevant to what he's asking.

Shirokuro, I would be pleased if I achieved the type of success that you're describing. And also, my cat is really enjoying your recordings - she's listening very hard. Probably because she's more accustomed to the awful noises I am still producing.
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#2160942 - 10/02/13 06:41 PM Re: Adult Beginner Success Stories [Re: nickadams]
keystring Offline
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Originally Posted By: nickadams
If they expect to be at level 6-7 after 5 or 6 years of playing,....

What do you think "being" at "level 6 - 7" means? Can you consider this as meaning something different than a list of pieces listed at levels?

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#2160945 - 10/02/13 06:47 PM Re: Adult Beginner Success Stories [Re: nickadams]
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Nick, Welcome to PW!

I am not sure I follow the logic in your question here. For many, the faster you reach a certain level the greater is the success. Thus, your "more than X years" is usually a "less than X years". We have a well known user here on ABF that I know of that has reached those levels (and more) in less than 2 years (!). I hope he shows up in this thread and shares his story as it is a true pleasure to listen to him play.


Edited by Amaruk (10/02/13 06:49 PM)
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#2160951 - 10/02/13 07:18 PM Re: Adult Beginner Success Stories [Re: nickadams]
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Don't mean to be controversial or to stir controversy in posting these, but just to give you an idea of what's possible with hard work and efficient, proper practice methods:
http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=2147.msg18265#msg18265

http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=2599.msg22419#msg22419

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#2160957 - 10/02/13 07:36 PM Re: Adult Beginner Success Stories [Re: nickadams]
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Bob,
Great links! Thanks for sharing!
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#2160992 - 10/02/13 10:14 PM Re: Adult Beginner Success Stories [Re: nickadams]
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Although the OP has requested that this thread be deleted, I'm not going to do so since some have taken the time to respond. I will however lock the thread since the OP said the responses indicated his original post was poorly worded and direct anyone who is interested in the new thread started by the same poster.
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