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#2161153 - 10/03/13 11:20 AM Infra 3 -hands get tired
kaanguner Offline
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Registered: 07/05/13
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here is the tutorial for the piece. and the original:


I have just established the right hand part but it is very, very tiring. Could you give me any tips about this 'getting tired' issue? Or is there exercises which i can do daily to strengthen my fingers. And how is this piece for a begginer? Am i going ahead of myself with this? Thank you.

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#2161234 - 10/03/13 02:10 PM Re: Infra 3 -hands get tired [Re: kaanguner]
wouter79 Offline
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The piece is is moderately complex and the final tempo seems pretty fast. Both seem too much for a beginner.

What is tiring? Do you have small hands? Or are you pushing too hard on the tempo? Do you keep relaxed while playing?

#2161241 - 10/03/13 02:32 PM Re: Infra 3 -hands get tired [Re: kaanguner]
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You must learn to relax in between notes. Play very slow a single note per second, and consciously focus on relaxing between each note, then speed up without tensing up. If you find you are not able to relax at a certain tempo, slow down, focus and do it again. smile
Art is never finished, only abandoned. - da Vinci

#2161658 - 10/04/13 09:17 AM Re: Infra 3 -hands get tired [Re: kaanguner]
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I'm trying your advice right now 4evrBeginR and it seems good. I think i could have slow down the tempo but since i go down by ear it's kind of hard.

Wouter79, since i can play the notes i'd like to for the whole song although it is on a slower tempo, like 120. Original piece should be around 160 right?

I don't know if i have slow hands. Just did an experiment i can ONLY TOUCH c3 > e4 and play c3 > d4 although my little finger which i play d4 sometimes press c3 too. This might happen because i don't do stretching and my keyboard, well i use a keyboard. It's not full-weighted like piano keys. So unwanted plays happen more often.

I have just started focusing consciously on my concentration and it seems to help. I think i was, as you asked, pushing too hard for the right tempo it builds up tension on my hands. Since i don't have any teacher i didn't the formula that is "play it right on the slowest tempo you can and then go up from it".

And I don't know the point of metronome. Could anyone help me? I have a software which clicks on bpm but i don't know how it works. For everyclick do i have to play the whole bar or only a note?

Aaaaannnd. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks to all of you.

#2161687 - 10/04/13 10:36 AM Re: Infra 3 -hands get tired [Re: kaanguner]
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Yes this is one of the risks having no teacher. There are a lot of things that can go wrong and getting tense and pushing too hard on the tempo are a few of them. Even playing slow will not prevent you from developing bad habits; and playing well slow does not automatically to playing fast well either IMHO.

So I would recommend getting a teacher, particularly in the beginner stage.

For the metronome, every beat in the music is 1 click. And what is a 'beat' is determined by the time signature in your score. Usually there are more beats in each measure.

#2161988 - 10/05/13 03:54 AM Re: Infra 3 -hands get tired [Re: kaanguner]
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As soon you have played the right thumb, it should relax and dangle a little bit downwards. Sometimes I have the problem to keep the thumb stiff and up ready for the next hit, making the movement of the other fingers harder.

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#2162032 - 10/05/13 08:27 AM Re: Infra 3 -hands get tired [Re: PaperClip]
kaanguner Offline
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I'll keep that in mind too. Thank you very much.


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