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#2165006 - 10/11/13 07:06 PM Casio px key action
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Just wanted to comment on how much I love it! It's just the best out there in my opinion. I have a hard time putting it into words but the keys have some sort of give to them almost flexible, yet solid. I feel like other key beds are too stationary and although may seem more solid they are not as realistic IMO. Just wanted to share!
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#2165153 - 10/12/13 04:28 AM Re: Casio px key action [Re: jazzyclassical]
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Dammit! A guy can only put off going to the showroom for so long; that report from you is enticing, seductive almost . . .What did you play before the Casio?
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#2165284 - 10/12/13 01:45 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: jazzyclassical]
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Thanks for sharing this, jazzyclassical. It's always nice to hear when someone is happy with his piano.

I got the PX-5S recently, and I like it very much. I can't compare it to many other digitals, as I haven't played many. I had a Yamaha P85 before, but the Casio has much better action and dynamics. Not to mention loads of extra voices/tones that you can even edit and adapt to your own wishes.
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#2165347 - 10/12/13 04:29 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: jazzyclassical]
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Yeah the new Casio action is tough to beat. I have a nice acoustic grand and I am very satisfied with the action on the Privia PX-5S. I believe the 350 and 850 share the same action.
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#2165357 - 10/12/13 05:07 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: jazzyclassical]
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+1.

It feels rather similar than the RHII in the Kawais, though the dynamic weight is a little different. Let's see how it stands in the long run and heavy use.
RHII is a bit clicky in the way up, after near a year of use.
Anybody owning a px/Celviano x50 for a long time that can comment on this?
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#2165625 - 10/13/13 11:37 AM Re: Casio px key action [Re: jazzyclassical]
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I've had my Casio PX150 for just about a year now, and some of the keys indeed have started to `click` a little bit. It almost seems like the felt has worn down a bit or shifted, and there's some `stiction` going on.
It's not too bad, but noticeable on sections that are P and below. From what I understand, this is not uncommon with modern actions.
As long as it doesn't get louder than this, I'm OK with it.

Recorded a couple shorter pieces yesterday, and no problem with the action at all. Especially when I wear headphones (Denon AHD-950), the clicking can't be heard wink This is the first piece from Kinderszenen:

http://youtu.be/8ZmzazD0dWA
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#2165628 - 10/13/13 11:47 AM Re: Casio px key action [Re: mabraman]
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I think the RHII feels amazing on the Kawai ES7. Almost bought one at the time because of the action. Felt incredible compared to the P155 I had. So, in "my opinion" I believe the RHII feels significantly better than the Casio PX150. However, I really like the action on the PX150 very much. So much that I am about to purchase the PX150 as a cheap second piano for travelling (or maybe the PX350) before the Columbus Day sale is over at Guitar Center.

My question, is the action and keyboard the exact same on the PX150, PX350, and PX5S?

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#2165654 - 10/13/13 01:00 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: Ashley2013]
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Originally Posted By: Ashley2013
My question, is the action and keyboard the exact same on the PX150, PX350, and PX5S?


Yes, they all use the same β€œTri-sensor Scaled Hammer Action Keyboard II.”

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#2165655 - 10/13/13 01:02 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: Ashley2013]
Charles Cohen Offline
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My question, is the action and keyboard the exact same on the PX150, PX350, and PX5S? . . .


That's what Mike Martin says, I think, and nobody here has suggested differently.

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#2165658 - 10/13/13 01:09 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: Radian]
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Good work!
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#2165659 - 10/13/13 01:11 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: TheodorN]
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Theodore, does that PX5S possess a 16 track recorder?
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#2165735 - 10/13/13 05:05 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: jazzyclassical]
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Peterws, the maximum number of tracks is eight, according to the manual.
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#2165747 - 10/13/13 05:33 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: Radian]
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Originally Posted By: Radian
I've had my Casio PX150 for just about a year now, and some of the keys indeed have started to `click` a little bit. It almost seems like the felt has worn down a bit or shifted, and there's some `stiction` going on.
It's not too bad, but noticeable on sections that are P and below. From what I understand, this is not uncommon with modern actions.
As long as it doesn't get louder than this, I'm OK with it.

Recorded a couple shorter pieces yesterday, and no problem with the action at all. Especially when I wear headphones (Denon AHD-950), the clicking can't be heard wink This is the first piece from Kinderszenen:

http://youtu.be/8ZmzazD0dWA


Same old Casio junk. Not surprised. The main reason I bought a Yamaha is not that they have great quality but because its better than the rest. Sadly, quality is never discussed seriously on this forum.

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#2165761 - 10/13/13 06:15 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: TheodorN]
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Originally Posted By: peterws
Theodore, does that PX5S possess a 16 track recorder?


Originally Posted By: TheodorN
Peterws, the maximum number of tracks is eight, according to the manual.


It's not a sequencer / recorder in the traditional sense. This is more of a performance oriented machine and less of a workstation. Peter, I think the PX-350 would be a better fit for you based on what I know from all your posts... Now if you wanted to get into sound design and computer based multitracking that would be a different story...
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#2165809 - 10/13/13 09:35 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: jazzyclassical]
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Must confess I'm not entirely sure what a track is and what is the purpose of it, but the manual mentions eight track in the chapter on recording.

I thought it was possible to record for example some playing with a grand piano voice on one track, save to the inner memory or USB, then record with another voice (on top of the first track,) like guitar, then repeat the process with the tone set to strings, and so on up to eight tones/tracks. Is that not possible with the PX-5S?
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#2165818 - 10/13/13 10:17 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: StarvingLion]
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Originally Posted By: StarvingLion
Originally Posted By: Radian
I've had my Casio PX150 for just about a year now, and some of the keys indeed have started to `click` a little bit. It almost seems like the felt has worn down a bit or shifted, and there's some `stiction` going on.
It's not too bad, but noticeable on sections that are P and below. From what I understand, this is not uncommon with modern actions.
As long as it doesn't get louder than this, I'm OK with it.

Recorded a couple shorter pieces yesterday, and no problem with the action at all. Especially when I wear headphones (Denon AHD-950), the clicking can't be heard wink This is the first piece from Kinderszenen:

http://youtu.be/8ZmzazD0dWA


Same old Casio junk. Not surprised. The main reason I bought a Yamaha is not that they have great quality but because its better than the rest. Sadly, quality is never discussed seriously on this forum.


funny, my 7-year old Yamaha DGX-620 keys "click".

like the poster said, guess eventually all worn out DP keys "click"... when it starts happening with my newfangled Casio PX-850, I'll warn you... smile
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#2165846 - 10/14/13 12:32 AM Re: Casio px key action [Re: Doritos Flavoured]
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Originally Posted By: Doritos Flavoured


funny, my 7-year old Yamaha DGX-620 keys "click".

like the poster said, guess eventually all worn out DP keys "click"... when it starts happening with my newfangled Casio PX-850, I'll warn you... smile


Doritos, don't even bother replying to the troll.

And I agree with the original poster (and others), my PX-850 has a fantastic action, which is every bit as good as a Roland or Kawai costing twice as much (IMHO). Casio hit a home run with the new PX-X50 series.


Edited by Tritium (10/15/13 02:28 AM)

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#2165853 - 10/14/13 12:54 AM Re: Casio px key action [Re: Tritium]
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Originally Posted By: Tritium
Originally Posted By: Doritos Flavoured


funny, my 7-year old Yamaha DGX-620 keys "click".

like the poster said, guess eventually all worn out DP keys "click"... when it starts happening with my newfangled Casio PX-850, I'll warn you... smile


Doritos, don't even bother replying to the troll.

And I agree with the original poster (and others), my PX-850 has a fantastic action, which is every bit as good as a Roland or Kawai costing 2-1/2 times as much (IMHO). Casio hit a home run with the new PX-X50 series.


And you also made outlandish claims regarding polyphony that have no factual basis. I guess you are referring to the RD700nx and MP10 action being no better than the px-850 plinko toy. Might want to take that up with your buddies around here...

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#2165860 - 10/14/13 01:05 AM Re: Casio px key action [Re: StarvingLion]
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I'm sure it's not better than $3000+ DP actions, but by how much I wouldn't know. But it's a definite improvement over my old DGX, and this line is within its price range.

what I do know is that Roland is very severely overpriced, even their lowend models with toyish actions akin to the DGX... so, I'm glad Casio is providing some much needed competition here.
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#2165878 - 10/14/13 02:19 AM Re: Casio px key action [Re: TheodorN]
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Originally Posted By: TheodorN
Must confess I'm not entirely sure what a track is and what is the purpose of it, but the manual mentions eight track in the chapter on recording.

I thought it was possible to record for example some playing with a grand piano voice on one track, save to the inner memory or USB, then record with another voice (on top of the first track,) like guitar, then repeat the process with the tone set to strings, and so on up to eight tones/tracks. Is that not possible with the PX-5S?


I guess you can record as many tracks (separate instruments) on a USB as you like, rather like playing the seperaye parts in an orchestra; you`d need music to follow that with. But it`s good to do them in parallel and fiddle with them in situ so to speak. 16 tracks sounds good.
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#2165882 - 10/14/13 02:38 AM Re: Casio px key action [Re: jazzyclassical]
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I am grateful for Casio, really. Where I live not only everything is overpriced (partly because of taxes) but also the average household income is lower than Europe and US. When I set out to buy a dp, I tried a few cheap/older generation dps in some local music shops and actions were all light & plasticky. I was not able to describe this at the time because I never played an acoustic or a dp with good action but you can still feel something is not quite right. Just I was about to buy one of those I saw some guy selling PX series on a website (ebay-like local site), there were lots of praise on the internet so I said what the heck and ordered it on impulse. Probably one of the best decisions of my life! I could not believe the difference in the feel of keys when it arrived, heavy, responsive and full feeling, also with a texture on top.

Now when I go to local stores I can make a better comparison and its action is miles ahead of dps in its price range. Of course other brands also have as good and better actions but they simply are not available where I live or they are overpriced as heck..(There are some good Yamahas but they are almost 3x the price!)

If I had bought one those other dps I would definitely enjoy playing/practicing less and in the long run I think that's very important. So thanks Casio, and thanks internet seller guy whom I suspect smuggled the dps into the country without tariff, lol. (The PX series is now available in many stores but the price is almost 1.5x what I paid. Downside: I do not have local guarantee so I hope I do not have any maintenance problems)

Sorry for slight off topic..


Edited by sydnal (10/14/13 02:39 AM)
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#2165888 - 10/14/13 03:14 AM Re: Casio px key action [Re: jazzyclassical]
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Regarding the claim that the Casio action is just as good or better than the Kawai , Roland PHA-III or Yamaha's GH3/ NW is nonsense. It's a good keybed for the price range and especially considering the very low weight. Period.

The more expensive boards of KAWAI, Roland and Yamaha are still better, but cost more money and require more heavy lifting in case of stage piano's; it's a trade off everyone has to make for his/her own. I personally decided to hand back the new Casio and go back to Kawai, because of the keys (among other things), but I don't have to move it around - otherwise I would have thought twice cause the PX5 is really (!) good at only 11kg. I never played a yamaha GHS keybed , so I wonder how the MOXF8 will be key-wise and if it poses any competition for the PX5...


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#2165953 - 10/14/13 09:07 AM Re: Casio px key action [Re: JFP]
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Originally Posted By: JFP
Regarding the claim that the Casio action is just as good or better than the Kawai , Roland PHA-III or Yamaha's GH3/ NW is nonsense. It's a good keybed for the price range and especially considering the very low weight. Period.



Hi JFP,

That is why I qualified my subjective assertion that the Casio PX-X50 action was "as good" as DPs costing twice as much. I also was careful to note that it was just my humble opinion.

I believe the Roland (PHA-3) and Yamaha (GH3 or NW) actions are only featured on models greater than 2.5 times the cost of the Casio.

The Kawai RM3 action on the MP10 doesn't cut it for me, as it only has a two sensor key design. The Kawai models featuring the RM3 Grand II action (3 sensors) are more than 2.5 times the cost of the Casio.

I fully expect and respect that others may disagree with my opinion.


Edited by Tritium (10/14/13 09:10 AM)

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#2166063 - 10/14/13 01:13 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: jazzyclassical]
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The funny thing is that for every doubling of price of DPs (100% raise) the quality increases by only a few percent. It's almost a logarithmic scale, if the quality was plotted as a function of the price.

This discussion also proves to me how important the action is. More important than the sound, as you can usually turn to software piano to improve that aspect of your piano circumstances.

The action of higher end Rolands and Yamahas has been mentioned, and if the PX pianos are even considered as rivals to pianos costing three times as much, it is a victory for Casio.

Finally I must mention that there is a digital piano selling at three or four times the price of PX-750/850/5S, with a worse touch than that of the PX-series. I'm referring to the Nord Piano 1 and 2. The action of them is very light, which is unbelievable for pianos in that price category. Though the Nord Piano 1 and 2 are amazing instruments, apart from the action.
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#2166107 - 10/14/13 02:05 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: jazzyclassical]
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Its odd why this Tritium fellow beats around the bush. In his characterization of 'action', a $500 Casio trisensor slab is as good in every way as a 3 sensor $1900 Kawai ES7 since in both cases it is assumed that software pianos will be used.

His take on 'action' is much like his polyphony...simply a number on a specs sheet. Nothing more.

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#2166237 - 10/14/13 05:53 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: StarvingLion]
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Originally Posted By: StarvingLion
Its odd why this Tritium fellow beats around the bush. In his characterization of 'action', a $500 Casio trisensor slab is as good in every way as a 3 sensor $1900 Kawai ES7 since in both cases it is assumed that software pianos will be used.

His take on 'action' is much like his polyphony...simply a number on a specs sheet. Nothing more.


Hey Troll, you are obviously not very good at basic math.

Last time I checked, $1900/$500 = 3.8

Which is well beyond the scope of my comparison.

Like I said earlier, why don't you slime your way back to your lair. Nobody wants you on here...and frankly, it is amazing you haven't been banned.

EDIT: On second thought, forget I even responded to you. I shouldn't have been sucked in to your "bait". My bad. You have previously admitted you are a complete novice and beginner at piano (as everyone here already knows). While there is nothing wrong with that at all (I applaud all new piano practitioners)...your commentary on DP piano actions has no basis in real experience. Even worse, you have no way to make bona fide assessment between what constitutes a good DP action, and how that compares to a true acoustic Grand action.

Besides, don't you have some appointment to sling your ridiculous mud
at the V-Piano...although, lately it now seems you have set your target on the Kawai VPC-1.

Give me a friggin' break.


Edited by Tritium (10/14/13 06:14 PM)

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#2166244 - 10/14/13 06:08 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: jazzyclassical]
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@StarvingLion - we understand your frustration, but you are somewhat preaching to the choir around here. Complaining to us isn't going to make DP manufs change their strategies. I don't know what to suggest, but going violently off-topic to personally vent in every thread doesn't improve the situation. We are a forum of end-users, not policy-swaying liaisons to the big corps.

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#2166261 - 10/14/13 06:44 PM Re: Casio px key action [Re: xorbe]
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Originally Posted By: xorbe
@StarvingLion - we understand your frustration, but you are somewhat preaching to the choir around here. Complaining to us isn't going to make DP manufs change their strategies. I don't know what to suggest, but going violently off-topic to personally vent in every thread doesn't improve the situation. We are a forum of end-users, not policy-swaying liaisons to the big corps.


Xorbe...you are familiar with SL's post history, yes??

You seem a very reasonable member. Exactly, in what sense is SL "preaching to the choir", and can you list me any concrete recommendation the Troll has made for the betterment the industry?

Unfortunately for SL, he caught me with an unusual amount of time on my hands, today. Here are some recent gems from this Troll. This reading would be entertaining, if it wasn't so pathetic. SL fails even at being a marginally intelligent and creative Troll. And in case it isn't obvious, notice how almost every post is a contradiction of an earlier position:

Originally Posted By: StarvingLion
Originally Posted By: JFP
zZzZZzzzzzzzZzzz.......


Memo to Kawai

Drop the price on the MP10 by 50% and fire all the marketing clowns already. Shaving materials is for suckers.


Originally Posted By: StarvingLion
The only reason to get an expensive digital is for *real* wooden keys. The other stuff doesn't matter. Literally every person who has bought a FP-80 or ES7 is disabling the onboard sound generator for software pianos. Nobody can agree on what is a 'proper' action and nobody can agree on how much thumping is good or bad.

Thats it, wooden keys.


Originally Posted By: StarvingLion


George, I wouldn't get the overpriced ES7. The overlooked feature that really matters on a digital is whether the keys thump hard (excessive noise caused by hard bottoming out of the keys).

The thumping is extremely annoying to the point that it will drive you away from the instrument. Even some $2000 digitals have terrible thumping.

You shouldn't have to pay a huge premium (eg. ES7) for something so basic.


Originally Posted By: StarvingLion


Apparently, the VPC1 has fizzled. Nobody cares anymore about the VPC1. Software pianos are a fad.

Its either the P-105/155 or the Roland V-Piano (stage version only). The stuff inbetween is not worth the bother.

Admit it already.


Originally Posted By: StarvingLion
The only people who care about the V are the Chopin nutcases ("gotta have a grand") and the Frank Zappa types.

Even a serious pop song writer/artist wouldn't touch the thing. Why? Because if you have either good relative pitch or perfect pitch, the artifacts will mess your mind up. Thats why I said its no more good than a 1000 casio.


Originally Posted By: StarvingLion


The suspense is nearly killing me. Please hurry, Kawai can't delay the VPC1 forever in order to dump overpriced ES7's on the NA market.


Originally Posted By: StarvingLion


I'm sure he won't even buy the $20 000 V-grand. You can put 10 different advanced classical pianists in a room full of every different make of weighted digital piano and none of them will agree on anything except that the digital piano is only good for headphone practice.

So why spend $7000 when you can spend $600.


Originally Posted By: StarvingLion


I am sad to inform you that the VPC1 has instantly obsoleted your RD-700nx. Its like the old IBM Personal Computer versus Minicomputer debate. People couldn't see the obvious back then either.

But the situation for Roland is not completely hopeless. Roland can let the V-Piano monster out of its cage and wreak havoc on the VPC1+samplers possibly devouring them in one fell swoop.

I just don't think they have the guts to do it.


Originally Posted By: StarvingLion
"just a piano that sounds nice and plays like a real piano"

If thats your criteria then you may as well not lie to yourself that you can get that with $1000 US.

You have to shell out $3K US in either digital or acoustic to get something that sounds nice and plays like a real piano.

My advice is to wait 15 months. Prices of digital pianos are going to drop like a rock because of inflation and hardware piano panic due to VPC1.


Originally Posted By: StarvingLion
Nothing makes any sense. The V-Piano should be pulverizing the acoutic cheap upright market into tiny bits and pieces. In reality, the V-Piano is a massive flop. The VPC1 fans really want the V-Piano even if they refuse to admit it and will end up paying the same price in the long run. I expect a mass exodus away from hardware pianos to physical modeling software to commence immediately to chase the mythical V-Piano.


Originally Posted By: StarvingLion
VPC1 + Pianoteq

Its the V-piano without the obsolescence and unfixable modeling errors of the V-piano. And it has a better keyboard. Forget about samples. They have never worked, and never will.


Originally Posted By: StarvingLion
Biased against DP's? I just bought a DP only because I had to. And I got the best bang for the buck.

But the facts speak for themselves. People are happy to spend >$3K on VCP1 + high performance laptop + software engine + high performance headphones...etc

But these same people won't finance a V-Piano for $6K, the greatest digital piano on earth.


Originally Posted By: StarvingLion
Local dealer wants to sell me a brand new Kohler & Campbell 42" acoustic console Piano for $2700 CDN, free bench, free delivery, free tuning, 0% down $70/month...Middle Pedal Quiet Play, ...piano seemed good.

The problem is whether I'm cut out for classical piano and i don't want to end up with a >$1000 pet rock if i'm not. Even though I know the action on the Yamaha Np-11 digital is hopeless, is it at least possible to determine whether a person is capable of moving beyond the beginner level? I don't mind a lengthy reorientation period on the new acoustic but is that $160 digital simply unplayable for Bach?


Originally Posted By: StarvingLion

I'm just starting out in piano (classical) and am looking at the P-155 and the difference in price in my area ($1000 for P-155, $1900 for ES7) is substantial.



Edited by Tritium (10/14/13 09:00 PM)

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#2166403 - 10/15/13 12:42 AM Re: Casio px key action [Re: jazzyclassical]
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There is no $1300 stage piano that even exists to compare to the $500 Casio trisensor. So you're saying the $500 casio is better than the $1000 P-155. I think your buddy experts here won't back you up on that either.

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#2166429 - 10/15/13 01:21 AM Re: Casio px key action [Re: StarvingLion]
Tritium Offline
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Registered: 06/19/13
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Originally Posted By: StarvingLion
There is no $1300 stage piano that even exists to compare to the $500 Casio trisensor. The $1000 P-155 has a better sound engine, speakers, and overall playing experience than the $500 casio. It feels and sounds like an actual upright acoustic. The lack of a 3rd sensor makes no difference whatsoever.


Typical...you completely ignore the subject at hand, and the recent commentary. Your statement that there isn't a $1300 "stage piano" to directly compare to Casio...this is relevant, how?

What, is this state of affairs somehow Casio's fault ??

Also, I have no idea why you have suddenly specified and focused upon a "stage piano" (slab style). I am not clear as to how that is germane to this discussion...especially since my original post concerned the Casio PX-850, and how (in my opinion) it's action was as good as DPs costing twice as much.

Of course, as you are an admitted beginner, I fully expect you have no appreciation for the difference between a two and three-sensor key system. In any event, I suspect that reproducing the action of an acoustic Upright was not exactly the goal Yamaha was shooting for, with their P-155.

Furthermore, the fact that I am even bothering to reply to you, at all, speaks to the degree of inebriation I currently find myself in. It is a holiday, and the Patriots and Red Sox both had miraculous wins last night.

P.S. -- The Yamaha P-155 is a fine digital piano. I tried one before ultimately deciding on the Casio PX-850. I preferred the PX-850 for many reasons, the most important being quality of action, keyboard responsiveness, piano tones, as well as sound/speaker quality. My humble opinion, of course.


Edited by Tritium (10/15/13 02:53 AM)

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