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#2166757 - 10/15/13 05:20 PM Re: Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis Played a Wurlitzer Spinet!?!?!? [Re: WurliFan]
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#2166762 - 10/15/13 05:28 PM Re: Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis Played a Wurlitzer Spinet!?!?!? [Re: WurliFan]
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I always wondered how those guys managed those rapid-fire repeated triads in triplets up in the high treble. Maybe the spinet's insubstantial feel, or shallow key travel, or something, contributed to their ability to play them so fast?
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#2166792 - 10/15/13 06:36 PM Re: Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis Played a Wurlitzer Spinet!?!?!? [Re: RealPlayer]
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None of those things; It's funny you mention the action of Spinets, Especially those with a better drop action design like the Wurlitzer. Do you think the touch is going to feel the same 60 years later? Example: The Henning Upright I played last week. Large Upright Piano. Almost all of the feel in the keys was gone, wasn't very responsive. 90 years ago, however, the piano probably had all of it's touch. I estimate that only about 30 percent of the population of piano owners actually regulate their piano; hence, after so many years, the touch starts to wear down as the action continually gets neglected. The Bass notes in my spinet are very responsive and have almost as much control as a Newer upright piano. The treble notes.....not so much. They were played far more often.
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#2166817 - 10/15/13 07:33 PM Re: Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis Played a Wurlitzer Spinet!?!?!? [Re: bebopsam]
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Whoops, I keep on missing your posts! I do try and reply to everyone that takes the time to comment on my topics. Sorry 'bout that! I agree with you, though; Uprights are more suited for certain kinds of music. Imagine a Spinet with Tack Hammers.....that would be extremely tinny and amazing for Ragtime and Honky Tonk! You need a 'dirty' sounding piano for the blues! Speaking of Atlantic, the same spinet piano heard in 'Mess Around' Can be heard in the background on Big Joe Turner's "Shake, Rattle, and Roll!"
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#2166830 - 10/15/13 08:00 PM Re: Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis Played a Wurlitzer Spinet!?!?!? [Re: RealPlayer]
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Originally Posted By: RealPlayer
I always wondered how those guys managed those rapid-fire repeated triads in triplets up in the high treble. Maybe the spinet's insubstantial feel, or shallow key travel, or something, contributed to their ability to play them so fast?

Oh come on now, the repetition isn't THAT poor on an upright. I just tried some triplets on my spinet in the middle range and then higher up, started off medium (fats domino speed!) then faster (little richard) and then some speedy stuff (jerry lee lewis). I didn't have trouble with either

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#2166835 - 10/15/13 08:18 PM Re: Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis Played a Wurlitzer Spinet!?!?!? [Re: RealPlayer]
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Originally Posted By: RealPlayer
I always wondered how those guys managed those rapid-fire repeated triads in triplets up in the high treble. Maybe the spinet's insubstantial feel, or shallow key travel, or something, contributed to their ability to play them so fast?


Those triplets are a common figure in Blues and Boogie-Woogie piano, both styles that are the genesis of early Rock and Roll.

Many of those original Rock and Roll players learned by listening to Blues players.

Jerry Lee Lewis and his cousins as youngsters hung around the outside of Blues juke joints to listen to the piano players. And they very likely practiced the triplets.

But you are on to something...such fast notes are easier on a looser piano.


Edited by rocket88 (10/15/13 08:19 PM)
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#2166856 - 10/15/13 08:59 PM Re: Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis Played a Wurlitzer Spinet!?!?!? [Re: WurliFan]
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rocket88 - perfect display name for this thread, hahaha. I love the dirty piano sound on that jam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbfnh1oVTk0

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#2166894 - 10/15/13 10:36 PM Re: Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis Played a Wurlitzer Spinet!?!?!? [Re: bebopsam]
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Originally Posted By: bebopsam
Oh come on now, the repetition isn't THAT poor on an upright. I just tried some triplets on my spinet in the middle range and then higher up, started off medium (fats domino speed!) then faster (little richard) and then some speedy stuff (jerry lee lewis). I didn't have trouble with either


My home piano, as a youngster back in the late 1950s, was a spinet, and the action seemed very light to me, so that's why I brought it up.
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#2166902 - 10/15/13 10:58 PM Re: Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis Played a Wurlitzer Spinet!?!?!? [Re: RealPlayer]
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Originally Posted By: RealPlayer
Originally Posted By: bebopsam
Oh come on now, the repetition isn't THAT poor on an upright. I just tried some triplets on my spinet in the middle range and then higher up, started off medium (fats domino speed!) then faster (little richard) and then some speedy stuff (jerry lee lewis). I didn't have trouble with either


My home piano, as a youngster back in the late 1950s, was a spinet, and the action seemed very light to me, so that's why I brought it up.

Hmmmmm...maybe! I'm gonna try the triplet test on a full sized upright next time I play one!

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#2166922 - 10/15/13 11:49 PM Re: Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis Played a Wurlitzer Spinet!?!?!? [Re: WurliFan]
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A good pianist can play on a good upright, anything they can play on a grand.

An upright will, with a skilful player, repeat faster than a grand. The only difference is that there isn't the precise degree of control.

Much is written in these pages comparing grand and upright actions. while it is true in theory, in practice it is a whole different experience.

Spinets, even only in reasonable condition will respond adequately to the demands of any and all of the pianists mentioned.
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#2166929 - 10/16/13 12:10 AM Re: Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis Played a Wurlitzer Spinet!?!?!? [Re: rxd]
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Originally Posted By: rxd
A good pianist can play on a good upright, anything they can play on a grand.

An upright will, with a skilful player, repeat faster than a grand. The only difference is that there isn't the precise degree of control.

Much is written in these pages comparing grand and upright actions. while it is true in theory, in practice it is a whole different experience.

Spinets, even only in reasonable condition will respond adequately to the demands of any and all of the pianists mentioned.

That's how I feel!

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#2167066 - 10/16/13 08:40 AM Re: Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis Played a Wurlitzer Spinet!?!?!? [Re: bebopsam]
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Hehe, that was actually recorded at Sun Studio; that's the Wurlitzer Spinet right there! wink
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1952 Wurlitzer 2150 Spinet...'The boogie-nator' laugh
I'm OCD with pianos, spinets in particular.
Famous Studios That Have Used Spinets in the 50s, just for fun!
Sun Records
Specialty Records
Atlantic Records
Roulette Records
Stax Records
Imperial Records
Chess Records
Still counting.....

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#2167067 - 10/16/13 08:43 AM Re: Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis Played a Wurlitzer Spinet!?!?!? [Re: rxd]
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I'm glad mine's in good condition. My grandmother's almost has no touch left at all, and it's very hard to control. It needs some serious regulation.
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1952 Wurlitzer 2150 Spinet...'The boogie-nator' laugh
I'm OCD with pianos, spinets in particular.
Famous Studios That Have Used Spinets in the 50s, just for fun!
Sun Records
Specialty Records
Atlantic Records
Roulette Records
Stax Records
Imperial Records
Chess Records
Still counting.....

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