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#2172841 - 10/27/13 05:25 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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You've been busy Wayne - thanks! I think we can safely say that mr T has composed plenty for the piano!

Irene - yes it seems to me that an April deadline would be sensible, given how much is already going on,if people want to go for this recital. That would allow plenty of time for preparation.

AZAstro - thanks for adding another suggestion. In time I think there would be time for all- and there's nothing to stop recitals running concurrently I suppose.

I was trying to get a feel for a consensus. Is there one for a Tchaikovsky recital?

(whatever the consensus, I'm curious now - and am going to check out some of T's piano pieces on youtube!)

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#2172860 - 10/27/13 06:15 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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I like the idea of a Tchaikovsky recital count me in
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#2172865 - 10/27/13 06:28 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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I could really be bad and pick the Tchaikovsky piece I've recently played for a Quarterly Recital. I will at least attest that some of his stuff is not that easy. It took me weeks to learn June from The Seasons.
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#2172868 - 10/27/13 06:32 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: wayne33yrs]
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Wow Wayne. Thanks for compiling a list, you saved me the trouble, now I can get back to learning his Old French Song, I long to play his "Waltz of the Snowflakes"...among other pieces.

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#2172870 - 10/27/13 06:37 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: earlofmar]
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These are the Tchaikovsky pieces listed by Maurice Hinson as part of the standard teaching repertoire (and probably playable by most people in this forum):

Children's Album - opus 39: These are probably the easiest. Set of 24 pieces.

The Season's - op 37b: Maybe these should be called "the Months" - set of 12 pieces.

Chanson Triste - op 40/2

Song Without Words - op 2/3

And then there is "Dumka" op 59 and the Sonata op 37, which are more difficult.

Sam


Edited by Sam S (10/27/13 06:38 PM)
Edit Reason: left out the composer name!

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#2172873 - 10/27/13 06:40 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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Originally Posted By: IreneAdler
, now I can get back to learning his Old French Song,


Learning this one myself at the moment: not as easy as I first thought although mercifully short


Edited by earlofmar (10/27/13 06:40 PM)
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#2172925 - 10/27/13 08:38 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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I would be interested in a Tchaikovsky recital. I'm not very familiar with his works so it would be a good opportunity to learn. I've heard "June" and it's beautiful, although I imagine a piece of that level would take me many months to learn.

The Bartok sounds great too. Would his music be in the public domain?

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#2172931 - 10/27/13 08:45 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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The Album for the Young is certainly accessible by most folk here. The Seasons are a good deal harder, about the level of most of the Mendelssohn Songs Without Words.

I have two pieces chalked in for 2015, the Nocturne, Op. 10/1 and Album Leaf, Op. 19/3. I could bring one of those forward. Is anyone making a list yet?
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#2172981 - 10/27/13 10:55 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: zrtf90]
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Originally Posted By: zrtf90
Is anyone making a list yet?



Richard a list has been presented in a post today: now just needs someone to start the ball rolling.
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#2173016 - 10/28/13 02:18 AM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: wayne33yrs]
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That`s a good list there! You can see how long they are. So if like me, you have the attention span of a gnat . . . might it be desireable to cut out the very long ones?
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#2173034 - 10/28/13 04:20 AM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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If we're picking pieces already, I like impromptu op 21 no 3.


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#2173037 - 10/28/13 04:35 AM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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For me it would be 07 No. 7. Dolly Is Ill (La poupee malade) as it is one of the pieces in the book I will be using next year.
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#2173065 - 10/28/13 07:46 AM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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Great! It looks like there's enough interest - congratulations Irene - how does it feel to be a 'mother'?!

I guess we need to agree on a list - there's Wayne's list, and Sam has come up with some pieces too. I don't know if there's an overlap, but perhaps we can for now agree that anything in either SamS' or Wayne's is 'in', as well as the pieces which people have said they want to do.

Would it be possible for someone to 'merge' all the Tchaikovsky pieces mentioned - especially Wayne's list and Sams' so that we just have the one list to work from? I don't have the music Sam refers to, so I can't do this myself.

I have a feeling that it might be a very long list, and if so, we can then think about cutting some out - to give us a workable number and weed out unsuitable pieces (like the v long ones as Peter suggests).

Any thoughts?

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#2173080 - 10/28/13 08:54 AM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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This is an editied version of Wayne's list with Opus numbers added. There seems to be enough pieces on it but if anyone has anything else they'd like to do (he transcribed many of his orchestral pieces for piano, too) they're welcome to add stuff.

Opp. 39 and 40 are easier and popular fare. I've removed the sonatas and more remote pieces.

I don't think there's any need to fill the list. If everyone who wants to join in takes a piece, seconds can be offered after a month or so if folk feel the need to do more.

I'm starting it off. I'm not intending to maintain it. smile

Op. 1 No. 1. Scherzo a la russe
Op. 1 No. 2. Impromptu

Op. 2 No. 1. Ruines d'un chateau
Op. 2 No. 2. Scherzo
Op. 2 No. 3. Chant sans paroles

Op. 4 Valse caprice in D major
Op. 5 Romance in F minor
Op. 7 Valse-scherzo No. 1 in A major
Op. 8 Capriccio in G flat major

Op. 9 No. 1. Reverie
Op. 9 No. 2. Polka de salon
Op. 9 No. 3. Mazurka de salon

Op. 10 No. 1. Nocturne in F major
Op. 10 No. 2. Humoresque in E minor

Op. 19 No. 1. Reverie du soir
Op. 19 No. 2. Scherzo humoristique
Op. 19 No. 3. Feuillet d'album (zrtf90)
Op. 19 No. 4. Nocturne
Op. 19 No. 5. Capriccioso
Op. 19 No. 6. Theme originale et variations

Op. 21 No. 1. Prelude in B major
Op. 21 No. 2. Fugue a 4 voix in G sharp minor
Op. 21 No. 3. Impromptu in C sharp minor (dire tonic)
Op. 21 No. 4. Marche funebre in A flat minor
Op. 21 No. 5. Mazurque in A flat minor
Op. 21 No. 6. Scherzo in A flat major

Op. 37 No. 1 January: By the Fireside
Op. 37 No. 2 February: Carnival
Op. 37 No. 3 March: Song of the Lark
Op. 37 No. 4 April: Snowdrop
Op. 37 No. 5 May: White Nights
Op. 37 No. 6 June: Barcarolle
Op. 37 No. 7 July: Song of the Reaper
Op. 37 No. 8 August: The Harvest
Op. 37 No. 9 September: The Hunt
Op. 37 No. 10 October: Autumn Song
Op. 37 No. 11 November: Troika
Op. 37 No. 12 December: Christmas

Op. 39 No. 1. Morning Prayer
Op. 39 No. 2. Winter Morning
Op. 39 No. 3. Mamma
Op. 39 No. 4. Hobbyhorse
Op. 39 No. 5. The Toy Soldiers' March
Op. 39 No. 6. My New Dolly
Op. 39 No. 7. Dolly Is Ill (earlofmar)
Op. 39 No. 8. Dolly's Funeral
Op. 39 No. 9. Waltz
Op. 39 No. 10. Polka
Op. 39 No. 11. Mazurka
Op. 39 No. 12. Russian Song
Op. 39 No. 13. Peasant Prelude
Op. 39 No. 14. Popular Song
Op. 39 No. 15. Italian Song
Op. 39 No. 16. Old French Song
Op. 39 No. 17. German Song
Op. 39 No. 18. Neapolitan Song
Op. 39 No. 19. A Nursery Tale
Op. 39 No. 20. The Witch Baba Yaga
Op. 39 No. 21. Sweet Dreams
Op. 39 No. 22. The Lark
Op. 39 No. 23. At Church
Op. 39 No. 24. The Organ-Grinder's Song

Op. 40 No. 1. Etude
Op. 40 No. 2. Chanson triste
Op. 40 No. 3. Marche funebre
Op. 40 No. 4. Mazurka in C major
Op. 40 No. 5. Mazurka in D major
Op. 40 No. 6. Chant sans paroles
Op. 40 No. 7. Au village
Op. 40 No. 8. Valse in A flat major
Op. 40 No. 9. Valse in F sharp minor
Op. 40 No. 10. Danse russe
Op. 40 No. 11. Scherzo
Op. 40 No. 12. Reverie interrompue

Op. 51 No. 1. Valse de salon
Op. 51 No. 2. Polka peu dansante
Op. 51 No. 3. Menuetto scherzoso
Op. 51 No. 4. Natha-valse
Op. 51 No. 5. Romance
Op. 51 No. 6. Valse sentimentale

Op. 72 No. 1. Impromptu
Op. 72 No. 2. Berceuse
Op. 72 No. 3. Tendres reproches
Op. 72 No. 4. Danse caracteristique
Op. 72 No. 5. Meditation
Op. 72 No. 6. Mazurka pour danser
Op. 72 No. 7. Polacca de concert
Op. 72 No. 8. Dialogue
Op. 72 No. 9. Un poco di Schumann
Op. 72 No. 10. Scherzo-fantaisie
Op. 72 No. 11. Valse bluette
Op. 72 No. 12. L'espiegle
Op. 72 No. 13. Echo rustique
Op. 72 No. 14. Chant elegiaque
Op. 72 No. 15. Un poco di Chopin
Op. 72 No. 16. Valse a cinq temps
Op. 72 No. 17. Passe lointain
Op. 72 No. 18. Scene dansante: invitation au trepak
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#2173097 - 10/28/13 09:48 AM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: zrtf90]
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May I propose, as I have before in other recitals, that the list be self-maintaining? - i.e. each new participant copy-pastes the latest list and simply updates the pasted version with his/her own choice. That becomes the latest list. It's foolproof, simple, and always 100% up to date.

Sooner or later there will need to be a nominated team and/or boss to coordinate the final presentation (I'm not looking for work!!) but at this stage maybe someone, anyone, not necessarily the 'boss', could start a new thread, with Richard's list to include 'Tchaikovsky' in the title? Then let everyone have at it...

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#2173099 - 10/28/13 09:49 AM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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Looks interesting. Actually I know little about Tchaikovsky's piano muisc. The only piece I have played before is the "June Barcarole" from "the Seasons", but I guess I should use the opportunity to learn something new. I need some time to listen and get hold of the score before I decide for a piece.

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#2173116 - 10/28/13 10:23 AM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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Thanks for the list Richard.

Quote:
There seems to be enough pieces ...


I 'll say - there are nearly 100 of them!

I agree Lynton - with so many pieces I think it would be a good idea if, when someone offers to do a piece, they have responsibility for updating the list. However, it might also be useful if there was a person(s)who would periodically check it over (maybe even saving the latest version). With so many pieces, any double-booking or other errors could cause a real headache if not spotted early on.

If second choices are to be allowed after a set period if there are no 'takers', then there would need to be a list of second choices too, I think.

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#2173118 - 10/28/13 10:27 AM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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Good idea, dire tonic. New thread started.
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#2173123 - 10/28/13 10:32 AM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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I don't think there's a need a need for a list of second choices. Hold fire for a spell and pick another from, say, November 15 (which still leaves five months) or December 1 (which allows a month for the dust to settle).
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#2173124 - 10/28/13 10:35 AM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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Its really nice to have so long to prepare..though it'll take ages to get through these to make a choice!

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#2173125 - 10/28/13 10:37 AM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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Yeah, I'd sight read them all first laugh
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#2173129 - 10/28/13 10:44 AM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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An easy way to adapt the main list for second choices (as and when the recital gates are opened up for them): The participant's name is bracketed – so the brackets indicate it’s a second choice and free to be erased and replaced by (and ONLY by) a NEW participant.

(edit: and maybe a PM from the usurper to the former second-choicer to convey the bad news! lol!)


Edited by dire tonic (10/28/13 10:48 AM)

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#2173137 - 10/28/13 10:56 AM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: dire tonic]
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Originally Posted By: dire tonic
An easy way to adapt the main list for second choices (as and when the recital gates are opened up for them): The participant's name is bracketed – so the brackets indicate it’s a second choice and free to be erased and replaced by (and ONLY by) a NEW participant.


ah! - the 1st choice entries already have bracketed names. So, the same idea will work but using a symbol other than brackets, e.g. ?name? or !name! or something flashy...

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#2173236 - 10/28/13 02:58 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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Good going guys, smile

I got the complete list here:

http://www.deezer.com/en/album/4725421

You can also preview each song for 30secs, or sign up and listen to them in full (I haven't tried this yet)

Anyone have links to the complete scores?

Diretonic - the self maintianing list is a great idea wink

Hope to join you guys in this one (as withdrew from the Chopin one in PC) April 2014 is a better time scale for me smile

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#2173255 - 10/28/13 03:31 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: Dipsy]
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Originally Posted By: Dipsy
Great! It looks like there's enough interest - congratulations Irene - how does it feel to be a 'mother'?!

Any thoughts?


Thoughts... I have so many: firstly, I could bowl over my Dad in one fell swoop, but saying "I am Mother" ohh what a pity it is not April 1st anymore.... drat! Comedy gold here... grin though he would probably be decidedly unamused and take away my book allowance... frown

There appears that a single list is all compiled, and a new thread is started so that's done. Very excited that this recital is going to occur, my teacher will be pleased, and I am asured to know at least four of his pieces, possibly more by April...

I should put my name down for his Old French Song and Neapolitan Song, Op 39, 18 as I know those will be learned by then.

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#2173317 - 10/28/13 05:46 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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Oh Lord, I was busy picking my olives and I find you actually put up a new themed recital! I signed up... hope it won't turn out to be too difficult.
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#2173318 - 10/28/13 05:52 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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If you're sure what you want to play Irene - you could put your name down - amending the list on the new thread. They are going fast over there, considering the list has only been up for a few hours!

It was really helpful Wayne to post the link to the recordings of the pieces - it allowed me to check them all out, and I've now made a choice.

Things are well under way now - we're getting good at these themed recitals these days, aren't we?! smile

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#2173341 - 10/28/13 06:38 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: IreneAdler]
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The Tchaikovsky is looking gooood!! Thanks for the preview page, Wayne. Maybe subscribing to Deezer to hear the compositions in full would be a good idea. From the few longer works I checked out, many of them start out sounding fairly manageable until about 20% the way through when they turn into a total roast-up with Tchai seeming to grow an extra pair of hands. If there’s to be even the remotest chance of a recital with 100% take-up there'll have to be a hefty influx of help from the ‘other’ forum – lots of it!

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#2173359 - 10/28/13 07:06 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: Dipsy]
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" They are going fast over there, considering the list has only been up for a few hours!"

Not surprised! Grab a playable one while ya can!! Gordon Bennett, this stuff is gonna make us sizzle . . . shocked
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#2173377 - 10/28/13 07:26 PM Re: Next Themed Recital? [Re: peterws]
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I'm in, with 40/2 "Chanson Triste".

If you are looking for the easier ones, look in opus 39...

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