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#2166881 - 10/15/13 10:03 PM Re: Need some advice - how far can I go? [Re: malkin]
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Originally Posted By: malkin
Find a teacher. Play some auditions. See what happens.

See a guidance counselor. See a psychologist. Speak to someone of your faith tradition.

Get a massage. Give something away.
Have something delicious to eat. Get some exercise and sleep well.

Breathe in.
Breathe out.

You're alive; the possibilities are endless.

Oh no. We don't need two btbs on this forum. grin
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#2166889 - 10/15/13 10:21 PM Re: Need some advice - how far can I go? [Re: Polyphonist]
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Don't worry.
I was only momentarily zen-ish.
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#2166932 - 10/16/13 12:15 AM Re: Need some advice - how far can I go? [Re: malkin]
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My respect for you went off the charts... momentarily. laugh
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#2167025 - 10/16/13 07:27 AM Re: Need some advice - how far can I go? [Re: Any1291]
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You can go just as far as anybody. The only person holding you back, is you.

I would suggest you look for a Teacher who has been a Concert Pianist. Or one who has experience teaching Concert Pianists.
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#2167069 - 10/16/13 08:47 AM Re: Need some advice - how far can I go? [Re: rnaple]
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I heard Helene Grimaud give a video interview and someone asked her what they should do about their little boy who is learning piano. She said, it is wonderful that he is being introduced to music and whatever form it takes is all good.

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#2167143 - 10/16/13 11:34 AM Re: Need some advice - how far can I go? [Re: Any1291]
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You're quite a fan of Helene Grimaud, huh? laugh
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#2167227 - 10/16/13 02:15 PM Re: Need some advice - how far can I go? [Re: Any1291]
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Once in a while these questions come up. I remember reading another thread here with another person asking the same question and someone responded that he is a professional musician who start late in his 20's, and he remains a professional playing in an orchestra, but he warns of the difficulties of starting late. Yes, it is possible, 21 is still young enough, but as many point out, it is a competitive world and competing with everyone else in the business who has been playing since they were 5-years-old is not a trivial point to gloss over.

Obviously someone who could play La Campanella by ear is talented. It doesn't matter how badly it is played. Many of us have tried to play some big piece like a Beethoven sonata to impress our teachers only to find out that our teachers were not at all impressed. The fact is, few could transfer what they hear into an instrument without training, and the ability alone is a significant talent even if the result is "not the way I would play it" as a former teacher of mine would say. Talent is important as no one could succeed by hard work alone.

There are so many people going through life counting the minutes to get off work, so they could do something else, something they truly love. 21 is still such a young age, and if the OP is willing to put in the extraordinary effort, then doing something one loves is the best choice. Obviously, the chance of being at Helene Grimaud or Gabriela Montero's level is practically zero, but really odds are of the thousands of 6-year-olds who says they want to become a concert pianist by 12, how many really become Martha Argerich? A musical career isn't just about that. If it is, then it is surely too late for the OP because most professional competitions have upper age limit of 35 and it is necessary to win or place near the top at one of those in order to have a good chance of become a world class concert pianist. Of course, I won't ignore the fact that a good friend who performed at Carnegie Hall last year is still selling Steinways as his day job, not easy being a musician. It's OK to dream a little, and work crazy hard for what you really love.
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#2167288 - 10/16/13 04:04 PM Re: Need some advice - how far can I go? [Re: 4evrBeginR]
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I have had my piano lesson tonight and was talking to my teacher about self taught pianists. She said you cannot teach yourself properly because you don't know what you are doing and need the help and guiance of a professional. You may hit the right notes but phrasng and hand position is all important. I taught myself a piece from scratch, and played it to my teacher and she said it was phrased badly.

oh hum... teacher is the way to go.

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#2167334 - 10/16/13 05:10 PM Re: Need some advice - how far can I go? [Re: Any1291]
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check out PWs own Sam Rose's story......amazing
http://www.youtube.com/sirsardonic

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#2167339 - 10/16/13 05:27 PM Re: Need some advice - how far can I go? [Re: Bob Newbie]
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Originally Posted By: Bob Newbie
check out PWs own Sam Rose's story......amazing
http://www.youtube.com/sirsardonic


No kidding! Sam went all the way, coast-to-coast across the US!
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#2167386 - 10/16/13 07:31 PM Re: Need some advice - how far can I go? [Re: adultpianist]
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Originally Posted By: adultpianist
... played it to my teacher and she said it was phrased badly.

oh hum...


I think that's a requirement with teachers. smile


EDIT: Seriously... There was a young man who wasn't particularly fond of school. All the time limits, tests, and such. So when he graduated college. He found a job. Then, since he really loved physics. He made that his hobby. The young man's name was Albert Einstein


Edited by rnaple (10/16/13 07:38 PM)
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#2167419 - 10/16/13 09:24 PM Re: Need some advice - how far can I go? [Re: rnaple]
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I also said I met a professional concert pianist who found learning piano extremely easy and then I was told that maybe its because this pianist started very young. I disagree. I think some people are born pianists and even if they start young, they either make it or they don't.

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#2168711 - 10/19/13 11:02 PM Re: Need some advice - how far can I go? [Re: Any1291]
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I am eager to know the outcome of this. Have you spoken to a teacher or professional?

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#2173402 - 10/28/13 08:00 PM Re: Need some advice - how far can I go? [Re: adultpianist]
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I am revisiting this thread as I am really interested in the outcome. Is it me or is anyone else wanting to know too?

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