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#2175125 - 11/01/13 02:09 AM Is this jazz today?
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I have transcribed and learned these three covers. Do you think they represent the jazz stylings of today?

"Body And Soul" Jason Moran's cover


"Maiden Voyage" Robert Glasper's cover


Etienne Charles - "Memories"

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#2175234 - 11/01/13 09:31 AM Re: Is this jazz today? [Re: rintincop]
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I don’t know about ‘representing’ todays jazz styles. Jazz is a broad arena these days, you may as well have picked …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YgwTxRjk4g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvU2-5HwzKk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_0nRbWmZAI

or any of hundreds of other musicians.
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#2175354 - 11/01/13 01:41 PM Re: Is this jazz today? [Re: rintincop]
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What represents jazz stylings of today is more in lines of this:

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#2175357 - 11/01/13 01:46 PM Re: Is this jazz today? [Re: rintincop]
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Or this: Murray Low

Good luck transcribing those !! laugh
cool

See you next year when you've finished.


Edited by Michael Martinez (11/01/13 01:52 PM)
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#2175358 - 11/01/13 01:48 PM Re: Is this jazz today? [Re: beeboss]
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Originally Posted By: beeboss
I don’t know about ‘representing’ todays jazz styles. Jazz is a broad arena these days, you may as well have picked …

or any of hundreds of other musicians.


Agree! I like the "New Orleans" style jazz myself. Some jazz sounds like a cat got up on the keys... with a mouse! grin
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#2175478 - 11/01/13 05:06 PM Re: Is this jazz today? [Re: Diane...]
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Originally Posted By: Diane...

Some jazz sounds like a cat got up on the keys... with a mouse! grin


That is the kind i like
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#2175511 - 11/01/13 06:03 PM Re: Is this jazz today? [Re: rintincop]
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I have always like Bobo Stenson for the past 30 years, but isn't he very derivative of Keith Jarrett?

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#2175573 - 11/01/13 09:11 PM Re: Is this jazz today? [Re: rintincop]
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Originally Posted By: rintincop
I have always like Bobo Stenson for the past 30 years, but isn't he very derivative of Keith Jarrett?


Well going by history it was actually Keith Jarrett who stole Bobo Stensons band in 1974.
But nobody is beyond being derivative, not even Jarrett. His style in the early years sounds very like Paul Bley of that period.
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#2175579 - 11/01/13 09:27 PM Re: Is this jazz today? [Re: beeboss]
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Interesting. I have listened to Bley. Is there a particular track by Bley that displays what Jarrett derived?

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#2175778 - 11/02/13 06:32 AM Re: Is this jazz today? [Re: rintincop]
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Maybe the 'Turning point' album ... Bley said that Jarrett had that album down note for note, don't know how true that is though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_sb5i-VZNY

Interesting Jarrett ALSO stole Bleys rhythm section !
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#2175883 - 11/02/13 12:12 PM Re: Is this jazz today? [Re: rintincop]
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You can print "Maiden V." here:
http://noteheads.wordpress.com/2013/03/13/maiden-voyage-robert-glasper/

For 'Body and Soul' Jason Moran uses a minor vamp and he also changes the melody in bar 4:
Also, Gbmaj7/Bb instead of Eb-/Bb (no Eb played) (It's Bb Aeolian)

'Body and Soul' Jason Moran

||: Gbmaj7/Bb ... Ab7sus F7/A :||
bars 3-4: | Gbmaj7/Bb ... Ab7sus Gbmaj7 | F-7 ... B-/E A |
||: Gbmaj7/Bb ... Ab7sus F7/A :||

"Memories"

| A maj7 E/G# | G Maj7 (lydian)|
| F#-11 Fmaj7+ | Ab7alt |
| A maj7 E/G# | G Maj 7 (lydian)|
| D 6/9 A/C# | B7sus Bb7#11 |

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#2176686 - 11/03/13 11:10 PM Re: Is this jazz today? [Re: rintincop]
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there's lots of new "jazz" today. Would you call Jamie Cullum jazz? And Glasper and Esperanza are doing their own thing and mixing in lots of fresh elements.

Funny I prefer that to the old classic of Wynton Marsalis. I don't like that style.

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