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#2175432 - 11/01/13 03:50 PM OT - unidentified music related word
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Hi Everyone,

I am wondering if anyone can identify this word. I've put a fair bit of time into it without success:



Many thanks in advance!


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#2175440 - 11/01/13 04:03 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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What is the context in which you found this?

Depending on the language, it looks like it could possibly end in -ßert, (with a German 'double-s') but, of course, that's only a guess.

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#2175441 - 11/01/13 04:04 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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What language is it in? Italian, German, French?
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#2175471 - 11/01/13 05:01 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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Could it be Cyrillic? Ж & Б etc.? If German it could end ßelt as well; that first part's the bugger though laugh Mit ßelt & Mit zelt could both sort of work...um...it depends on what's written above it and the idiom of the writer...any other details around it would be *infinitely* useful smile
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#2175496 - 11/01/13 05:35 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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Maybe it's part of the signature of the German poet, Friedrich Rückert whom Schubert and Mahler (among others) set to music.

We do need more information, more context.

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#2175503 - 11/01/13 05:48 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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Yes, more context please. What comes just before that word? There seems to be something else above it.
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#2175625 - 11/01/13 11:31 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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I think everybody's been a little bit too mild on this.

Michael, why in the world would you ask this without giving context? grin

(And actually that's pretty mild too!)

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#2175776 - 11/02/13 06:05 AM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Mark_C]
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I appreciate the responses and am sorry about not having given the context - I can see how that was not helpful, yet knowing the context might be part of what is getting in the way of me figuring out the word and I am hopeful that someone observing it outside of the box of the context might be able to see readily what it is. It is from a project list in my handwriting and mostly of composer last names with a few composition titles included. The line right above is Grieg but I don't know of any Grieg work with a title that ends in "eit" - there is "Eit Syn", Op. 33 no. 6, which begins with "eit". It looks like the final five characters might be "fseit".


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#2175834 - 11/02/13 10:06 AM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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Is it English script or Fraktur?
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#2175858 - 11/02/13 11:25 AM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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Originally Posted By: Michael Sayers
It is from a project list in my handwriting and mostly of composer last names with a few composition titles included.

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#2175916 - 11/02/13 01:38 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Damon]
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Originally Posted By: Damon
Originally Posted By: Michael Sayers
It is from a project list in my handwriting and mostly of composer last names with a few composition titles included.

Michael: Hopefully you realize the humor or irony (or whatever) in what Damon highlighted. smile

In any event it would have been helpful (I suppose helpful is the word) grin for you to have explained all of this in the first post.

BTW the closest I personally can come is "grapefruit."

Best thing to do in a case like this, I think -- where we can't read something that we wrote, no matter how hard we try: Don't worry too much about it. smile

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#2175996 - 11/02/13 05:30 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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Do you mean YOU wrote that word and that you don't recognize your own handwriting? This occasionally happens to me at the supermarket with my shopping list! ha
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#2176052 - 11/02/13 07:01 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Mark_C]
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Thanks Mark. You are right about this, and of course as implied the discovery of the word's identity isn't important in the big scheme of things.


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#2176068 - 11/02/13 07:23 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: ChopinAddict]
Michael Sayers Offline
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Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
Do you mean YOU wrote that word and that you don't recognize your own handwriting? This occasionally happens to me at the supermarket with my shopping list! ha

I get what you are saying about the shopping lists. Mark indicated that this word resembles "grapefuit" - maybe this experience just is an indication that I need more vitamin C!


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#2176069 - 11/02/13 07:25 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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I think it says "Rhinbuit." grin
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#2176073 - 11/02/13 07:29 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: BDB]
Michael Sayers Offline
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Originally Posted By: BDB
Is it English script or Fraktur?

To economize on time usually I write really fast whether it is words or music notation and don't worry about the appearance. At least it doesn't seem to be an abbreviated word or one with some vowels deliberately left out. You are are right, it does look a bit like Fraktur!


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#2176249 - 11/03/13 03:57 AM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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For me it takes a good amount of known words to get into someone's handwriting.

You have more lines of text of the same writer? (you??)

What's the price for the best bet?
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#2176290 - 11/03/13 08:09 AM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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Schubert.
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#2176424 - 11/03/13 12:57 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: wouter79]
Michael Sayers Offline
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Originally Posted By: wouter79
For me it takes a good amount of known words to get into someone's handwriting.

You have more lines of text of the same writer? (you??)

What's the price for the best bet?

There are sketches in cursive for some essay work - non-cursive seems to be reserved for lists and other non-expressive writing which is, though of forensic relevance, probably not of any other interest here such as in the case of grocery lists.

I can offer some free lessons on how to make print handwriting more legible for anyone who figures out the word. This might of course be a bit daft wink


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#2176451 - 11/03/13 01:27 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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I looked at the Lyric Pieces for something that ends in "t". Sie tanzt?
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#2176548 - 11/03/13 04:35 PM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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Originally Posted By: Michael Sayers
Originally Posted By: wouter79
For me it takes a good amount of known words to get into someone's handwriting.

You have more lines of text of the same writer? (you??)

What's the price for the best bet?

There are sketches in cursive for some essay work - non-cursive seems to be reserved for lists and other non-expressive writing which are, though of forensic relevance, probably not of any other interest here such as in the case of grocery lists.


I thought you said it was a list, so the non-cursive WOULD be the most relevant confused
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#2176737 - 11/04/13 02:09 AM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: BDB]
Michael Sayers Offline
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Originally Posted By: BDB
I looked at the Lyric Pieces for something that ends in "t". Sie tanzt?

That is a wonderful piece of music - thanks for the effort. As Mark wrote, it probably isn't worth too much effort to figure out, although as the word should not be anything obscure it does seem a bit bizarre.


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#2176864 - 11/04/13 10:12 AM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: Michael Sayers]
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Konzert?

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#2177341 - 11/05/13 05:14 AM Re: OT - unidentified music related word [Re: sleepy]
Michael Sayers Offline
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Originally Posted By: sleepy
Konzert?

Thanks for the suggestion! Probably at some point I'll suddenly realize what the word is, and at that future date when it is resolved I'll post it here.


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