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Indeed it will ^^
One other thing about articulation I noticed: 4th note's are almost played like 8th's. Little gap between 4th note and following note.

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Can the people that have worked on and through the JOI gIve a summary of how it was for them and where it has taken you? I have just began my journey.

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It's taught me how to improvise on pretty much on any tune.
Have fun!

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Hi D-Dove

I am also still an improvisation beginner but the book has helped me tremendously with getting my ear accustomed to the Jazz language. It teaches you good left hand chords without the theory. I am now noticing that I dont have to think much about left hand voicings because you pick these up automatically from working through the tunes.

The Hanons will develop your technique and if you do the singing with solo exercises dilligently you will develop a very good ear that is necessary for your growth. In retrospect I should have taken the singing with the solo stuff MUCH more seriously

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Thanks Saiman,
I am now on lesson 5 and I'm really enjoying the course

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Do you JOI guys and gals hand out still?

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I am back at improvising again. Even for two weeks now! (My shoulder got seriously hurt during a car accident so I had to quit playing for some time frown

This is my first improv line. Nothing special nor perfect but better share than no share wink

https://soundcloud.com/simou-pw/impro-line

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Wow, Welcome back Simou... I'm glad that you are on the mend.

Lovely line, gentle, flowing, slightly melancholy. Still.... I am so bad! I feel like I'm failing in a game of "Name those Changes." I may be wrong, delusional, misguided, barking up the wrong tree.... But they sound so familiar.... I just can't put my finger on it.

Thanks greatly for the tune. Best wishes for your shoulder.

And I look forward to hearing more.



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Thanks Norman, I guess everybody else has moved on in the mean time. Good to see you are here.

Chords? I have no clue. But they sound familiar right?. Remember the Bbmin7 and Eb7alt in the solo line of "Precipitation" (p. 47 book 1) ?

Ab C Db F
G Cb Db E

What I found is that
c# f c
c e b
sounds very similar.

Hit SHIFT-L to put it on auto repeat
https://soundcloud.com/simou-pw/029-chordchanges



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Yes, That's it....

And that "New-York a-Mississippi" rhythm is somewhat reminiscent of measures 9 and 10 of Precipitation, which shares its changes and dreamy wistful quality with "Here's That Rainy Day"

Your improv embodies that as well.





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Originally Posted by simou
I am back at improvising again. Even for two weeks now! (My shoulder got seriously hurt during a car accident so I had to quit playing for some time frown

This is my first improv line. Nothing special nor perfect but better share than no share wink

https://soundcloud.com/simou-pw/impro-line


Hey Simou
Car accidents are no fun ! Glad you are feeling better.

You've improved a lot. You will find that it will get easier too, there's no rush, it kinda just happens.

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Hey Apple,

yeah absolutely no fun. Good to see you again though. I try listen to as many tunes as I possibly can. Mostly oldschool '70 soul with some Jazz (Art Blakey's Mosaic right now) here and there to keep it real wink And I'm looking forward to Dave Frank's improv class coming soon. This will be fun!


Thanks for the info, Norman. Important to have those historic references, which I lack of. Can you provide an example of that Mississippi rhythm. I couldn't find it on youtube.

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Thanks for the info, Norman. Important to have those historic references, which I lack of. Can you provide an example of that Mississippi rhythm. I couldn't find it on youtube.


Thanks Simou.
Just listen to measures 9 and 10 of Precipitation, and for each measure say "New York a-Mississippi" in time with the eighth (e) and quarter (q) notes: "e q e e-e-e-e."

Then listen to your improv: You'll find the same pattern!

P.S. Dave Frank uses "Tennessee" for triplets, and generally suggests saying "slice of pizza" while you play to get into the swing of things.

Keep swinging, singing, slinging, and flinging!



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Got it. On to the next tune turvy.... reminds me somehow of Summertime and the theme from Godfather.

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It's based on the standard Topsy:)

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listener discretion is advised wink


me stumbling through a slow mo improv line attempt for leafline
https://soundcloud.com/simou-pw/leaf

I have no idea what chords were played, some are from the leaf line. So it's kinda random.
Way to go....


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For what I understand. The main challenge of playing bodhran along side other instrument is that it sometimes causes confusion in rhythm.

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That doesn't stop people from trying: Here's a jazz group that consists of piano, sax, and bodhran:

https://gearspace.com/board/attachm...n.mp3?s=4fc382ff678ed8f69e33d1d426c3b368

I think it works


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Dave Frank's Saturday Jazz Hangout on Zoom
You might be interested in this. Every Saturday at 2PM, Dave hosts a Zoom class. The address is 579 664 6371. No password needed.

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