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I am considering a local Chopin Competition that's in 3 months. I have Op. 10 nos. 4 and 12 ready now, and wanted to learn one or two more.
I was thinking Op. 10 no. 9, because of its more singing qualities. Which are good under time constraints?
Additionally, if I have small hands (can barely reach some 9ths), are there any Etudes that I shouldn't play? For example, Op. 10 no. 1 would be hard, but doable, but would Op. 25 no. 10 pose too great a challenge?
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You got the faster ones already. I would throw in a couple slower ones in to break it up a bit. (I.e. 10/3, 10/6, 25/1, 25/7 etc.) How much time would you be allotted exactly?
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p.10/1 is no problem for small hands, op.25/10 should either be too 'big' a problem, op.25/8 could be, why not indeed take on a 'singing' one, op.25/5 for instance, underplayed...
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Hi, Op 10/9 has a couple of big stretches (or big leaps)  Op 25/12 is IMO easier than it sounds, but then you have two in C minor. However, I don't think that would matter, they ARE Chopin Etudes, after all. OP 25/9 is on the easy side, and can be quickly learned. I not sure about stretches though, haven't played it in years. I like the idea of playing a slow one, as ScriabinAddict said. Op 10/3 is beautiful, and was one of Chopin favorite melodies that he ever wrote. Good luck!
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Why has 10/11 not been mentioned, regarding the small hands issue? I think it's by far the hardest for someone with small hands.
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Why has 10/11 not been mentioned, regarding the small hands issue? I think it's by far the hardest for someone with small hands. 10/11 isn't bad for me, honestly. A few chords definitely are, but it doesn't have to be as insanely fast as 25/10, for example.
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Why has 10/11 not been mentioned, regarding the small hands issue? I think it's by far the hardest for someone with small hands. 10/11 isn't bad for me, honestly. A few chords definitely are, but it doesn't have to be as insanely fast as 25/10, for example. Let's hear you play it.
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Hi, Op 10/9 has a couple of big stretches (or big leaps) Op 25/12 is IMO easier than it sounds, but then you have two in C minor. However, I don't think that would matter, they ARE Chopin Etudes, after all. OP 25/9 is on the easy side, and can be quickly learned. I not sure about stretches though, haven't played it in years. I like the idea of playing a slow one, as ScriabinAddict said. Op 10/3 is beautiful, and was one of Chopin favorite melodies that he ever wrote. Good luck! Okay, maybe my hands aren't as small as I think... 10/9 isn't EASY regarding the stretches, but with enough practice, it wouldn't really be a problem. I sight-read it today without issue. I Played 25/9 last year; I thought it was harder than 10/4 :P The former gave me so much tension; I should take it back up again to fix that. As for 25/12, I've never been a huge fan. I would love to play 10/3. I'll talk to my teacher. Thanks so much!
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The former gave me so much tension The etude isn't what gave you tension.
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I Played 25/9 last year; I thought it was harder than 10/4 :P The former gave me so much tension; I should take it back up again to fix that.
Wow, really? I find 10/4 so much harder. Everybody really is different I suppose.
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Okay. I'll spell it out.
The poor technique I used to perform the etude led to tension.
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Why has 10/11 not been mentioned, regarding the small hands issue? I think it's by far the hardest for someone with small hands. 10/11 isn't bad for me, honestly. A few chords definitely are, but it doesn't have to be as insanely fast as 25/10, for example. Let's hear you play it. As you so often state, I played through it to see if it was "too hard for me"; it wasn't. However, it's not up to performance standard, as I haven't actually practiced it.
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Why has 10/11 not been mentioned, regarding the small hands issue? I think it's by far the hardest for someone with small hands. 10/11 isn't bad for me, honestly. A few chords definitely are, but it doesn't have to be as insanely fast as 25/10, for example. Let's hear you play it. As you so often state, I played through it to see if it was "too hard for me"; it wasn't. However, it's not up to performance standard, as I haven't actually practiced it. My point is that simply reaching the chords is not enough.
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I second 10/3. It is so beautiful.
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I'll also recommend 10/3, though you should probably figure out what was giving you issues in 25/9 so that you can use what you learn in the future. I find that the techniques in it apply well to 20th century music, which tends to be octave-heavy.
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I'm going with Op. 10 no. 3!
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I am considering a local Chopin Competition that's in 3 months. I have Op. 10 nos. 4 and 12 ready now, and wanted to learn one or two more.
I was thinking Op. 10 no. 9, because of its more singing qualities. Which are good under time constraints?
Additionally, if I have small hands (can barely reach some 9ths), are there any Etudes that I shouldn't play? For example, Op. 10 no. 1 would be hard, but doable, but would Op. 25 no. 10 pose too great a challenge?
Thanks! I've only recently tried reading through some of the Chopin etudes beyond the Revolutionary. (I never thought they were interesting -- at least the ones I'd heard.) That said, I love 10/9, 25/10 and 25/11. Perhaps three of my favorites in the whole set. 10/9 and 25/10 are very repetitive, so are probably easier to learn. 25/11 was a little tougher to read through. Yes, it's chromatic, but I had a harder time remembering it (physical memory was there, but couldn't pick notes out of a hat, so not the most reliable for me). Which one(s) do you like best? Ultimately, that will be what you want to dedicate your time to.
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I am considering a local Chopin Competition that's in 3 months. I have Op. 10 nos. 4 and 12 ready now, and wanted to learn one or two more.
I was thinking Op. 10 no. 9, because of its more singing qualities. Which are good under time constraints?
Additionally, if I have small hands (can barely reach some 9ths), are there any Etudes that I shouldn't play? For example, Op. 10 no. 1 would be hard, but doable, but would Op. 25 no. 10 pose too great a challenge?
Thanks! I've only recently tried reading through some of the Chopin etudes beyond the Revolutionary. (I never thought they were interesting -- at least the ones I'd heard.) That said, I love 10/9, 25/10 and 25/11. Perhaps three of my favorites in the whole set. 10/9 and 25/10 are very repetitive, so are probably easier to learn. 25/11 was a little tougher to read through. Yes, it's chromatic, but I had a harder time remembering it (physical memory was there, but couldn't pick notes out of a hat, so not the most reliable for me). Which one(s) do you like best? Ultimately, that will be what you want to dedicate your time to. 10/9 is relatively easy; 25/10 is not. Those octaves are killer. I love almost every single one. I'm going to finish Op. 10 in the next three years- I hope!
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I am considering a local Chopin Competition that's in 3 months. I have Op. 10 nos. 4 and 12 ready now, and wanted to learn one or two more.
I was thinking Op. 10 no. 9, because of its more singing qualities. Which are good under time constraints?
Additionally, if I have small hands (can barely reach some 9ths), are there any Etudes that I shouldn't play? For example, Op. 10 no. 1 would be hard, but doable, but would Op. 25 no. 10 pose too great a challenge?
Thanks! I've only recently tried reading through some of the Chopin etudes beyond the Revolutionary. (I never thought they were interesting -- at least the ones I'd heard.) That said, I love 10/9, 25/10 and 25/11. Perhaps three of my favorites in the whole set. 10/9 and 25/10 are very repetitive, so are probably easier to learn. 25/11 was a little tougher to read through. Yes, it's chromatic, but I had a harder time remembering it (physical memory was there, but couldn't pick notes out of a hat, so not the most reliable for me). Which one(s) do you like best? Ultimately, that will be what you want to dedicate your time to. 10/9 is relatively easy; 25/10 is not. Those octaves are killer. I love almost every single one. I'm going to finish Op. 10 in the next three years- I hope! Nice, that is a great goal! 25/10 is easy for me because octaves are my single strongest technique. But, I know you said you had smaller hands, so that could make it much more difficult. (I do play it all 15, though, if that's any consolation.  )
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