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#2183990 - 11/17/13 03:44 PM Re: Brahms: Intermezzo, Op 118, No 2 [Re: BruceD]
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Bruce,

Just ignore Louis. There's absolutely no reason why to even consider him worthy of replying to! frown

As far as normalizing goes: It was always my thinking that what normalizing does is to spot the loudest spot, get it to 0 db and the rest relatively louder... Which is not destroying anything. If anything it's like tempering the gain, until you reach the same result, but just easier.

Recently people have been advising me that if a work is to go to a professional mastering level, then I should leave the normalizing bit to them (who might do it in a different way).

If you consider that a 9 minute classical work may, after all, not have a 0db point (loudest part), then it seems very sane to NOT normalize anything. This lovely intermezzo by Brahms has very few loud points, none of which is one that would "qualify" exactly for reaching that 0db point. In which case it seems to me that you did turn some low volumes into a bit louder than it should be.

But that's all irrelevant really, especially for a home recording...

I won't go into any details about your performance, unless you want me to. Are you looking for feedback of your performance, or just sharing?

In any case I will admit that I enjoyed your performance and had it playing twice (and now on the third time listening in a row).
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#2184082 - 11/17/13 06:06 PM Re: Brahms: Intermezzo, Op 118, No 2 [Re: Nikolas]
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Originally Posted By: Nikolas
Bruce,

Just ignore Louis. There's absolutely no reason why to even consider him worthy of replying to! frown

As far as normalizing goes: It was always my thinking that what normalizing does is to spot the loudest spot, get it to 0 db and the rest relatively louder... Which is not destroying anything. If anything it's like tempering the gain, until you reach the same result, but just easier.

Recently people have been advising me that if a work is to go to a professional mastering level, then I should leave the normalizing bit to them (who might do it in a different way).

If you consider that a 9 minute classical work may, after all, not have a 0db point (loudest part), then it seems very sane to NOT normalize anything. This lovely intermezzo by Brahms has very few loud points, none of which is one that would "qualify" exactly for reaching that 0db point. In which case it seems to me that you did turn some low volumes into a bit louder than it should be.

But that's all irrelevant really, especially for a home recording...

I won't go into any details about your performance, unless you want me to. Are you looking for feedback of your performance, or just sharing?

In any case I will admit that I enjoyed your performance and had it playing twice (and now on the third time listening in a row).


One can say whatever they want to, however, Bernard Sherman, Charles Rosen, Carl Friedberg, Etelka Freund, and Adelina de Lara all thought it very important to write, play, and record in the style Brahms or as one of their students taught them.

That is the same message I have been trying to get across on the rest of the classical music composers. Accordingly, hey Mark C., I will leave you with a link to a news article that I am currently trying to post as a visual copy.

It regards the applied musicologist/pianist Robert D. Levin's research into the only composer/student written copy of Mozart's style of playing, which comes from the composer's own hand. If you think I am shaking it up in regards the composer's of the 19th century, you ain't seen nothing yet.


http://www.theguardian.com/music/2011/sep/30/embellished-mozart-manuscript-uncovered

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