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#2185490 - 11/20/13 04:09 AM Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon)
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I was reading another thread that was talking about the Garritan Steinway piano library and it made me want to check their site out as I hadn't visited it in a while.

This was what I found

http://www.garritan.com/cfx-concert-grand-coming-soon/

I am surprised at this because usually when I see these types of companies do a Yamaha piano it's usually a C7, or they do an older model piano.

I know Yamaha has already sampled it's own CFX for their silent pianos and the CP4, but I wonder if this library will do a better job at it than Yamaha themselves.

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#2241059 - 03/04/14 02:53 AM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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Just thought I'd let everyone know that after three months Garritan has put up some audio demos of this product on the same website. As well as a video that shows the miking process.

http://www.garritan.com/cfx-concert-grand-coming-soon/

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#2241065 - 03/04/14 03:31 AM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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That sounds very promising! Any idea when it'll be available?

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#2241068 - 03/04/14 03:52 AM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: dire tonic]
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That sounds very promising! Any idea when it'll be available?


I signed up for the mailing list to be emailed more info about the product including when it might be released. That was back in November of 2013. However, I've yet to get an email from them.


Edited by Tyruke (03/04/14 03:53 AM)

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#2241305 - 03/04/14 02:16 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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This would be very interesting..The yamaha sound is pretty awesome.
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#2241336 - 03/04/14 03:07 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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Definitely very interesting! Thanks for the info...
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#2241345 - 03/04/14 03:23 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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I've wanted a great Yamaha virtual piano for a long time. The Ivory II C7 leaves plenty to be desired. But it is going to be hard for me to trust Garritan after they REPEATEDLY promised and then failed to deliver an upgrade to the Garritan Authorized Steinway for several years before finally discontinuing it. I vowed not to buy anything from them again and if it had been another Steinway that would have been easy to do. But I'll probably break down and give them another chance for a CFX. The Ravenscroft demo's sound poor to me (I wouldn't buy for a good demo, but a bad demo turns me off) so I guess this CFX will be my next purchase.
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#2241433 - 03/04/14 06:51 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Macy]
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Hi Macy,

I too could be interested in a good Yamaha, so far the only one I like is Alicia's Keys but the playbility is really poor in my opinion. I have a question. Does GAS use iLok? Also, has the Steinway included in Finale 2014 anything to do with GAS (which I gather is not for sale anymore, right?)
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#2241682 - 03/05/14 01:50 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Digitalguy]
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Originally Posted By: Digitalguy
Hi Macy,

I too could be interested in a good Yamaha, so far the only one I like is Alicia's Keys but the playbility is really poor in my opinion. I have a question. Does GAS use iLok? Also, has the Steinway included in Finale 2014 anything to do with GAS (which I gather is not for sale anymore, right?)

GAS does not use the iLok. It is not for sale anymore. I don't know anything about the Steinway in Finale 2014. I don't like the piano/sampling of Alicia's Keys. I've discussed some of those issues in previous posts.
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#2241690 - 03/05/14 02:01 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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WOW !! Sounds very very Good
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#2242312 - 03/06/14 05:47 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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I am impressed by the fact that they wanted to sample the Yamaha CFX. Doesn't everybody else usually sample a Yamaha C7? I always wondered why that was. (like why no other Yamaha flagships were sampled for vsts)


Edited by Tyruke (03/06/14 05:49 PM)

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#2242327 - 03/06/14 06:13 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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Originally Posted By: Tyruke
I am impressed by the fact that they wanted to sample the Yamaha CFX. Doesn't everybody else usually sample a Yamaha C7? I always wondered why that was. (like why no other Yamaha flagships were sampled for vsts)
I figured others sampled the C7 because they were commonly available in recording studios. A state of the art CFX sampling is a very exciting prospect indeed.
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#2242415 - 03/06/14 10:02 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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This makes me happy ...
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#2242529 - 03/07/14 06:51 AM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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This is intriguing!

I was poking around the Garritan (and the MakeMusic) websites and found a press release:

See:

http://www.makemusic.com/press-room/press-releases-2014/

In the press release, they indicate that the CFX will be available as a download for $249.
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#2242535 - 03/07/14 07:27 AM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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The high price is a little disappointing, but I'm still very interested.

Also interesting is that it will run on "Aria player". Has anyone any experience with it?
I hope it will be better than the the UVI player of VI Labs pianos....
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#2242552 - 03/07/14 08:44 AM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: PtJaa]
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Originally Posted By: PtJaa
The high price is a little disappointing, but I'm still very interested.

Also interesting is that it will run on "Aria player". Has anyone any experience with it?
I hope it will be better than the the UVI player of VI Labs pianos....


agree it sounds a bit richly priced but i guess they deserve first mover advantage for working up a CFX sample set and also recording 3 mic positions.

I have the GAS, and while i never really liked its sound much, i did think the Aria player was fairly easy to use as a standalone or plug-in. i think the aria player is superior to Kontakt's player (as is (IMO) Ivory's Cantabile player).


Edited by bfb (03/07/14 08:47 AM)
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#2242709 - 03/07/14 03:46 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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Thanks for the information. I hope they release it soon. Also, hope it will implement necessary features like half- and re-pedalling.
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#2243073 - 03/08/14 10:44 AM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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Yes, that price has me thinking twice about it.

I like the sound of the demo a lot but I don't think I'd get it for $249.
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#2243199 - 03/08/14 02:14 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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I wonder if you're gonna need the ilock for the Garritan CFX samples... frown
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#2243202 - 03/08/14 02:20 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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Would be exciting to see how this compares to the new ravenscroft by VI labs..
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#2243208 - 03/08/14 02:30 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Mta88]
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Originally Posted By: Mta88
I wonder if you're gonna need the ilock for the Garritan CFX samples... frown

I doubt it. The Garritan Authorized Steinway with the ARIA Engine did not use the iLok. My concern is more about shipping a finished product. GAS never received its promised upgrades after years of promises, even though those upgrades were said to have been finished, before it was abandoned and discontinued. Check out the Garritan Forum at NorthernSounds.com for that sad tale.
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#2243236 - 03/08/14 03:22 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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Maybe they are smart enough to not repeat the mistakes of the past.

I'm sure it hurt the company's reputation.

They are certainly asking for a hefty price.. Let's hope it isn't half baked.
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#2243248 - 03/08/14 03:46 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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Does this company offer free trials?

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#2243593 - 03/09/14 12:49 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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Would be cool if they did but considering the size of the library i doubt.
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#2249656 - 03/20/14 07:15 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Mta88]
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I've e-mailed Garritan asking about the release date of CFX and they answered that there's no information about the release date. So I decided to take a look at Production Grand, a Yamaha C7 sampled with 8 mics.

http://www.productionvoices.com/products/piano-samples/production-grand-gold/

I just bought it last week and I am testing it. The sound is really fantastic, as you can mix all the mics together to achieve the sound you want.



Edited by renato (03/20/14 07:17 PM)

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#2274711 - 05/12/14 10:19 AM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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I've just received an email to say the CFX is now available....at all but $300 it's hardly a snip!

I've emailed a query asking if the product, failing to meet expectations, can be sold on with their blessing. Actually, I thought the demos sounded pretty good. Is anyone thinking of splashing out on this?

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#2274758 - 05/12/14 11:24 AM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: dire tonic]
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Originally Posted By: dire tonic
I've just received an email to say the CFX is now available....at all but $300 it's hardly a snip!

I've emailed a query asking if the product, failing to meeting expectations, can be sold on with their blessing. Actually, I thought the demos sounded pretty good. Is anyone thinking of splashing out on this?


If you're concerned about what is a pretty hefty price tag, waiting a while for some reviews might be the best way to go.

One of the beta testers has stated that He does in fact think it's the best sampled piano ever produced and that he can't imagine a sampled piano being any better. But that's his ear and your ear might hear things differently. That's the way it seems to be.

I'd also mention that the Garritan products have always been very reasonably priced so they must feel that they are offering a very special piano library.

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#2274764 - 05/12/14 11:27 AM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: dire tonic]
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I agree, I think the demos sound impressive! Probably the best sampled demos I have heard. BUT, who knows what processing was done, etc. The real test is how it would sound in my studio. Unfortunately I am not looking to spend $300 right now.
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#2274780 - 05/12/14 11:52 AM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: fastlanephil]
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Originally Posted By: fastlanephil

If you're concerned about what is a pretty hefty price tag, waiting a while for some reviews might be the best way to go.

One of the beta testers has stated that He does in fact think it's the best sampled piano ever produced and that he can't imagine a sampled piano being any better. But that's his ear and your ear might hear things differently. That's the way it seems to be.

I'd also mention that the Garritan products have always been very reasonably priced so they must feel that they are offering a very special piano library.


It really is pricey! Unless Garittan or their agents - I'm not absolutely clear who's selling this - are happy to allow the library to be sold on I'll most likely wait anyway, perhaps in the hope of a discounted deal. I take your point about the usual reasonable pitch of their prices and what a $300 tag might imply. I have to say, I'm not generally impressed though by either reviewers or beta testers. I always feel that to some extent they're in thrall to the client or the developer. It's certainly possible to run off a praiseworthy and even fairly factual review without really getting to the nub of what we need to know.

That said, I do think this sounds good in the demos. At least they've had the sense to include a few demos that are less brash than the usual trillion notes per second nonsense that a lot of these developers feel they need to dish up.

I'm hoping one of the others here will weaken first...lol!

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#2274803 - 05/12/14 12:34 PM Re: Garritan Abbey Road CFX Concert Grand (Coming Soon) [Re: Tyruke]
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- newsflash!....with shipping to uk it's $350! So no download option...

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