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#2188968 - 11/26/13 11:03 PM Schumann/Liszt - Widmung
Rob00996 Offline
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Registered: 06/30/11
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Here is a Liszt song transcription. Any comments are welcome.

https://app.box.com/s/j5cgrjds16ythivvci79

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#2189025 - 11/27/13 02:25 AM Re: Schumann/Liszt - Widmung [Re: Rob00996]
BruceD Offline
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There is some nice playing here.

I do feel, in the first and second "verses" of this transcription, that the accompaniment stands out a little too much. Moreover, it sounds as though too much "focus" is on individual notes of the accompaniment rather than on the forward flow of that accompaniment. One might say that the accompaniment sounds "too notey;" I would like to hear more of a "blending" of the individual notes of the accompaniment. Move the accompaniment more into the background and give it a less pointed texture.

While there is some appropriate rubato used as indicated in the score, sometimes I find that final notes of phrases aren't given the "breath" that I'd like to hear after them and before the next phrase begins. I would like to hear the ends of phrases "sung" and "breathed" as a singer would do.

That said, there is some good playing here; thank you for sharing.

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#2189057 - 11/27/13 05:42 AM Re: Schumann/Liszt - Widmung [Re: Rob00996]
babama Offline
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This is one of my favorite piano pieces.
I think you have a good grasp of the piece and generally play it well, but the whole thing needs to get a better (melodic) flow, especially the first part.

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#2189167 - 11/27/13 11:36 AM Re: Schumann/Liszt - Widmung [Re: Rob00996]
A Guy Offline
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Registered: 10/15/13
Posts: 268
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I just played this piece! The loud part of the ending and the arpeggio right hand sections were done quite well. However, the accompaniment throughout much of the piece could be softer and shaped better. Especially in the beginning, I think you should shape your phrases, starts of phrases, and ends of phrases better. Also, I think breathing more and more rubato would help give the phrases a little space and help them flow. That said, good job! You are obviously a great pianist
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#2189890 - 11/28/13 11:15 PM Re: Schumann/Liszt - Widmung [Re: Rob00996]
Arghhh Offline
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A suggestion for helping to improve the flow: try to feel it as in 3/2 (as this is the time signature) instead of 6/4.

Oh, and I have a question. What fingering do you use in the LH in ms. 47? This is the measure with the E flat in the bass and the cresc. and accel indication, before the descending arpeggios. I've found jumping up to the 16th note figurations and then back down to the E flats difficult to do accurately.


Edited by Arghhh (11/28/13 11:22 PM)

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#2190078 - 11/29/13 12:23 PM Re: Schumann/Liszt - Widmung [Re: Arghhh]
BruceD Offline
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Originally Posted By: Arghhh
[...]Oh, and I have a question. What fingering do you use in the LH in ms. 47? This is the measure with the E flat in the bass and the cresc. and accel indication, before the descending arpeggios. I've found jumping up to the 16th note figurations and then back down to the E flats difficult to do accurately.


I've never had a problem with this measure. I play the low E-flats with 5 and jump to each of the B-flats with 4. That seems to me the most logical way of playing the broken chord figures that follow the E-flat without any finger cross-overs and, of course, it works well for the subsequent arpeggio passages as it places the thumb on G.

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