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#2188017 - 11/25/13 11:16 AM Some Quick Stride Tips Please
TromboneAl Offline
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Registered: 08/12/04
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I'm working up a stride piece for an upcoming Christmas party gig. I'd like to get some simple tips to make this sound better.

https://app.box.com/s/8wtn3v2m7jmhz7ddt52u

I'm looking for things like relative dynamics, using the pedal, staccato/legato, etc.

I'll be getting the tempo up to about 115 BPM (the recording is at 100). It's sounding a bit klunky to me at this point.

Thanks, Guys!
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#2188222 - 11/25/13 06:07 PM Re: Some Quick Stride Tips Please [Re: TromboneAl]
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Hi Al,

the f# in the left hand in the 2nd bar sounds weird to me.

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#2188482 - 11/26/13 07:32 AM Re: Some Quick Stride Tips Please [Re: TromboneAl]
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Sounds like the tempo is about right to me. On the LH boom chucks, you can drop the thumb just ahead of the pinky using an octave boom, and if you want to break the LH chord up, play the pinky tone ahead of the other two.
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#2188520 - 11/26/13 08:59 AM Re: Some Quick Stride Tips Please [Re: TromboneAl]
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I "hear" a bass note run during "since there's no place to go", leading into the higher phrase and conclusion of the lyrics idea in "let it snow, let it snow, let it snow." Not that I could necessarily figure out what the run is, but that's what I hear in my head smile So what I'd do is, either figure out the run, or figure out what is possible to substitute, given my ability. Necessity is the mother of invention for me. But I like the playful sound you're getting here - cheerful for the holiday.

Cathy
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#2189217 - 11/27/13 01:21 PM Re: Some Quick Stride Tips Please [Re: TromboneAl]
TromboneAl Offline
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Thanks for the tips.

Yes, I hear you regarding the F#, but I like it, and it follows my Bass Rules (OK to approach chord root by half step).

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I "hear" a bass note run during "since there's no place to go", leading into the higher phrase


Me too. I hear it starting on the word "go," and it would G, A, Bb with tenths, leading up to playing a B for the root of the diminished chord. It sounds good, but for now I'm going to keep it simple and stupid.
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#2189665 - 11/28/13 01:18 PM Re: Some Quick Stride Tips Please [Re: TromboneAl]
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F# sounds good to me!

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#2189913 - 11/29/13 12:43 AM Re: Some Quick Stride Tips Please [Re: TromboneAl]
Elssa Offline
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Originally Posted By: TromboneAl
I'm working up a stride piece for an upcoming Christmas party gig. I'd like to get some simple tips to make this sound better.

https://app.box.com/s/8wtn3v2m7jmhz7ddt52u

I'm looking for things like relative dynamics, using the pedal, staccato/legato, etc.


Sounds very good. smile Well, an easy thing you can do to give any stride tune a little more zip is to play a rolling 10th with the left hand at times (1-5-10)rather than just playing the root/bass note.





Edited by Elssa (11/29/13 01:00 AM)

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#2191026 - 12/01/13 04:18 PM Re: Some Quick Stride Tips Please [Re: TromboneAl]
Cudo Offline
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Hi Al,

again me. The f# in the second bar is not wrong but for me it sounds pretty "biting".
How about if you keep the first 2 bars completely diatonic.
| FMA7 Gm7 | F/A Gm7 | would also be a possibility.

www.cisum.info/letitsnow.mp3

PS
you pedaling is little to short. I mean it's a good thing not to spread into the next harmony, but yours maybe is to short.

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#2198156 - 12/15/13 06:38 PM Re: Some Quick Stride Tips Please [Re: TromboneAl]
TromboneAl Offline
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Well it went reasonably well at the (very noisy) gig:

https://app.box.com/s/ju9ep50f3b5j63ct5dbc

Thanks for the help. I'll be working on refining my stride technique.
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#2198443 - 12/16/13 10:52 AM Re: Some Quick Stride Tips Please [Re: TromboneAl]
hv Offline
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Nice strongly played jazzy arrangement. My wife plays a bit of stride and here are some suggestions I coaxed out of her. She agrees with Ellsa about using more 10ths in the left hand... if you can't reach 1 and 10 together, rolling 1-5-10 is perfectly acceptable. But she goes a bit further suggesting omitting most of the comping in the left hand, to distinguish it from typical jazz, and maybe even doing a little syncopation there. You might also want to try to figure out a way to throw some triplets into the right hand, and maybe swing it a little if you want to maintain a jazz feel.

Howard

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