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#2193169 - 12/05/13 08:53 PM Question about audition tape
A Guy Offline
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Hi, in an audition tape, would it be normal or acceptable to play a whole sonata as one of the pieces? The rules say "two pieces, one being an etude." Could I play a whole sonata as my other piece?
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#2193176 - 12/05/13 09:27 PM Re: Question about audition tape [Re: A Guy]
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Sure. Why not?

I would think a slightly tougher question would be whether it could be a single movement from a sonata -- and the answer for that would be, sometimes yes, sometimes no.

I think usually organizations are more specific about what's OK or what isn't. If they're not, it's basically all yours. smile

P.S. This doesn't address whether it's a good idea, which is a tougher question too.

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#2193179 - 12/05/13 09:40 PM Re: Question about audition tape [Re: A Guy]
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Oh, by acceptable, I guess I also meant good idea haha. Thanks for your answer! If I had a longer audition tape, I would feel more confident with playing a complete sonata, as it isn't out of place. However, my only other piece is a chopin etude, either op. 25 no. 1 or op. 10 no. 3, so playing a 15 minute sonata might make the tape very unbalanced... Suggestions?
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Soler sonata r.48
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Haydn Hob XVI 50 movement 1
Chopin Ballade 3
Liszt Hungarian rhapsody 8
York Bowen toccata

www.youtube.com/channel/UCKqmkVdn_41vKvDG-ELy0bg

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#2193189 - 12/05/13 10:03 PM Re: Question about audition tape [Re: A Guy]
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15 minute sonata? If you feel you play it really well -- i.e. if you feel it's a very good showing of yourself -- I think it's fine.

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#2193194 - 12/05/13 10:15 PM Re: Question about audition tape [Re: A Guy]
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Good idea? Sure!

Acceptable? Only the audition committee can answer that.
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#2193203 - 12/05/13 10:40 PM Re: Question about audition tape [Re: A Guy]
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Ok thanks! Well I actually haven't started practicing the sonata yet, because there's still quite some time before the tapes due
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Soler sonata r.48
Soler sonata r.78
Haydn Hob XVI 50 movement 1
Chopin Ballade 3
Liszt Hungarian rhapsody 8
York Bowen toccata

www.youtube.com/channel/UCKqmkVdn_41vKvDG-ELy0bg

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#2193205 - 12/05/13 10:41 PM Re: Question about audition tape [Re: A Guy]
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Hmmm..

NO experience in these things here, so "common" sense post coming up.

I think you are right to be concerned. I also believe that the committee might not sit through a 15-20 minute sonata... This is the sad truth. It's also something that is very valid (plenty of experience here) when sending demos to clients. The general consensus is to keep what you send to under 3 minutes. Same goes for pitching videos, and stuff.

Ok, this isn't a commercial pitch to a company, but an audition, but I'm wondering if the same applies here. If the committee was to get 20 minute DVDs, or CDs from everyone they'd have a pretty hard time listening to absolutely everything, no?
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#2193207 - 12/05/13 10:45 PM Re: Question about audition tape [Re: Nikolas]
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Originally Posted By: Nikolas
....I also believe that the committee might not sit through a 15-20 minute sonata...

But the truth probably is that they don't sit through any number of minutes of anything. They probably flip through, they fast-forward and skip stuff, whatever.

And anyway he didn't say 15-20, he said 15. smile
IMO that makes a big difference. Subjective of course, but I wouldn't have said "fine" so easily if it were 20.

Guy: Why would you pick something that you haven't worked on, and haven't even started? Why not go with something that's solid, and which you know you can do well? (With something you haven't worked on, not only won't it be as solid; you don't even know if you'll be able to do it well!)

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#2193222 - 12/05/13 11:18 PM Re: Question about audition tape [Re: A Guy]
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Exactly what Mark C said. Pick something that you already know you can play well, that shows your best attributes, and that you'll be happy with ANY 30-second snippet being the snippet they listen to. All this is most likely with a piece you know backwards and forwards and have already performed a couple of times.
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#2193237 - 12/05/13 11:51 PM Re: Question about audition tape [Re: A Guy]
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#2193239 - 12/05/13 11:54 PM Re: Question about audition tape [Re: A Guy]
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Oh well, this is auditioning for entering a piano competition and camp, so I'm pretty sure they'd listen to the whole thing, it isn't for sending in to be for a promo video or something like that. Maybe I'm naive. Also, I am not certain at all I could get the piece audition-ready by April, but I was asking hypothetically. My private teacher gets final decision on what piece I play. If I'm not certain i can play the piece good, I won't use it for sure.

Edit: wait the deadlines in march, if I can't get it ready, I'll be practicing my performance ready pieces as well as other pieces for the competition, I can use those


Edited by A Guy (12/05/13 11:57 PM)
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Soler sonata r.48
Soler sonata r.78
Haydn Hob XVI 50 movement 1
Chopin Ballade 3
Liszt Hungarian rhapsody 8
York Bowen toccata

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#2193257 - 12/06/13 12:45 AM Re: Question about audition tape [Re: A Guy]
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You might want to double check the source requirements. Tape? Is anyone submitting "audition tapes" these days. Who records on tape?

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#2193296 - 12/06/13 02:23 AM Re: Question about audition tape [Re: BruceD]
Mark_C Offline
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Originally Posted By: BruceD
You might want to double check the source requirements. Tape? Is anyone submitting "audition tapes" these days. Who records on tape?

I assume that was just an expression. smile

After all, we still say "record store" for those places that hardly sell "records" any more, don't we....

(And BTW you don't have to tell me that unfortunately there aren't too many of those left!)

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#2193366 - 12/06/13 07:55 AM Re: Question about audition tape [Re: A Guy]
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Yes, it's actually an audition DVD/video recording
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Haydn Hob XVI 50 movement 1
Chopin Ballade 3
Liszt Hungarian rhapsody 8
York Bowen toccata

www.youtube.com/channel/UCKqmkVdn_41vKvDG-ELy0bg

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