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#2197254 - 12/13/13 09:29 PM Weber, From W150 to W185
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Had a chance to go through all four grands in the Weber line-up.

Impressions...decent build quality, no better or no worse than most of the better Chinese stuff. I think Del's re-design has given the line some added sustain and some bass.

The tone is darker and somewhat romantic.

May have been this particular dealer, but the actions seemed a little sluggish and heavier than some of the competing grands.

People talk about the W150, but my favorite of the line was the W175. I think it gives up very, very little to the W185, but in a smaller package. Definitely worth trying, if looking at affordable grand pianos for the home.

The surprise of the store was not the Weber pianos, but the Young Chang product. The YC has a unique voice, different from the Weber. Some of the same action complaints surfaced, but overall Del has changed the YC from something I didn't quite care for, into something I found much more appealing...Previously, you probably couldn't have run fast enough to give me a Young Chang, but now I find their voice to be much improved. Clearer, better bass, more sustain.

If one can find a dealer that will put some TLC into action prep, these pianos may fill a nice niche in their market segment.

Just don't think if you've played a Weber, you've played a Young Chang, or vise versa.

When checking out piano flavors in that 9-14K street price range, make sure you try out both Weber and YC.
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#2197270 - 12/13/13 10:30 PM Re: Weber, From W150 to W185 [Re: Jolly]
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Originally Posted By: Jolly

May have been this particular dealer, but the actions seemed a little sluggish and heavier...


Ah, yes. This has been my experience, too. Unfortunately, the only ones I've seen were literally sent right from the factory, tuned, and set up. While I was able to look past that, and see the potential that is there, many will not. One of my pianist friends tried a Young Chang Y150 and completely wrote it off due to an unresponsive action, caused by lack of prep. However, I firmly believe that with proper attention, these things can be great pianos!
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#2197278 - 12/13/13 10:48 PM Re: Weber, From W150 to W185 [Re: Jolly]
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Indeed, after my technician ( a Steinway tech) finished with my YC (the version before the Del design), the difference was night and day. He commented about it that while out of the box it was rough, if had enough quality potential to be improved considerably and the end result clearly proved that statement.
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#2197285 - 12/13/13 11:07 PM Re: Weber, From W150 to W185 [Re: Jolly]
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Can they prep it better at the factory so it isn't all on the dealer? Or does it all come out of whack during shipping?

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#2197326 - 12/14/13 02:18 AM Re: Weber, From W150 to W185 [Re: Jolly]
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There are several changes in the works for the three smaller YC and Weber grands -- the 150, 157 & 175 -- that should improve the touch and feel of the actions. The hammers are getting a bit lighter which will reduce touchweight and improve the tone a little. As well, the damper lever mechanism is being modified to reduce pick-up weight some.

Don't ask me when these changes will enter production or when they will reach the U.S.

The U.S. represents a large part of the market for these pianos so I'd guess it will be soon.

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