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#2202000 - 12/23/13 06:39 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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And I just sent him an e-mail "re-claiming" the Waltz Opus 42. I'm gonna "stand tall" and go for it !!!!! grin
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#2202109 - 12/24/13 01:03 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Grande Valse! Way to go, Phil, looking forward to it.
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#2202140 - 12/24/13 02:38 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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And I'm looking forward to Kreisler's Opus 48 No. 1 !! smile
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#2202230 - 12/24/13 07:49 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Me too! The three I've played were already taken, so I gotta learn a new one. laugh
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#2202260 - 12/24/13 09:23 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I'm so excited to hear some of those waltzes! I have some I've worked on previously, but with time constraints and the Tchaikovsky recital, I decided to just rework a nocturne (27/1). This is going to be a great recital!!
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#2202312 - 12/24/13 11:02 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Kreisler]
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Me too! The three I've played were already taken, so I gotta learn a new one. laugh

Count me in on this. Op 48 No 1 is one of my all-time favorite Chopin pieces. smile
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#2202341 - 12/24/13 12:02 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I don't have access to a piano at the moment, but now that I'm looking at the music to op 9 no 3 I really hope I can actually play it creditably. i had forgotten how awkward that middle section was... but I suppose challenges are always good!
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#2202370 - 12/24/13 12:47 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Op. 70 no.3...Waltz Musica 71
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#2202404 - 12/24/13 02:31 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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IMPORTANT:

The sign-up for the waltzes is moving too slow. I'm going to accept multiple pieces per person now. If you already have a piece, feel free to claim one of the last waltzes.

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#2202409 - 12/24/13 02:46 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Welcome to the Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital sign-up!

Pieces should be claimed via private message. Public posts will not be counted. You may claim multiple pieces, listed in order of priority. To insure the inclusion of as many participators as possible, I will be listing only one piece per person until I feel it is appropriate to list more. When you submit your recording(s), please title the message "SUBMISSION". All submissions are due Saturday, March 22, 2014. Questions and comments are welcome. Good luck and have fun!

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CURRENT LIST:


Nocturnes:

1) B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1 (doctor S)
2) E-flat major, Op. 9 No. 2 (Pavel.K)
3) B major, Op. 9 No. 3 (ansatz737)
4) F major, Op. 15 No. 1 (Roland The Beagle)
5) F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 (DameMyra)
6) G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 (FarmGirl)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 27 No. 1 (Morodiene)
8) D-flat major, Op. 27 No. 2 (chopinoholic)
9) B major, Op. 32 No. 1 (Brad Hoehne)
10) A-flat major, Op. 32 No. 2 (dynamobt)
11) G minor, Op. 37 No. 1 (ElaineAllegro)
12) G major, Op. 37 No. 2 (SlatterFan)
13) C minor, Op. 48 No. 1 (Kreisler)
14) F-sharp minor, Op. 48 No. 2 (BruceD)
15) F minor, Op. 55 No. 1 (Damon)
16) E-flat major, Op. 55 No. 2 (jeffreyjones)
17) B major, Op. 62 No. 1 (Emanuel Ravelli)
18) E major, Op. 62 No. 2 (dire tonic)
19) E minor, Op. 72 No. 1 (PikaPianist)
20) C-sharp minor, P1/16 (-Frycek)
21) C minor, P2/8 (TwoSnowflakes)


Waltzes:

1) E-flat major, Op. 18 (Morodiene)
2) A-flat major, Op. 34 No. 1 (hreichgott)
3) A minor, Op. 34 No. 2 (Pathbreaker)
4) F major, Op. 34 No. 3 (ansatz737)
5) A-flat major, Op. 42 (Carey)
6) D-flat major, Op. 64 No. 1 (AZNpiano)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 64 No. 2 (Sammae)
8) A-flat major, Op. 64 No. 3 (timmyab)
9) A-flat major, Op. 69 No. 1 (BruceD)
10) B minor, Op. 69 No. 2 (Sam S)
11) G-flat major, Op. 70 No. 1 (Tim Adrianson)
12) F minor, Op. 70 No. 2 (carey)
13) D-flat major, Op. 70 No. 3 (musica71)
14) E minor, KK IVa/15 (dannylux)
15) E major, KK IVa/12
16) A-flat major, KK IVa/13
17) E-flat major, KK IVa/14
18) E-flat major, KK IVb/10
19) A minor, KK IVb/11 (FSO)

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#2202412 - 12/24/13 02:54 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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OK, so I couldn't resist! But I have worked on Op 18 previously and I think I can manage it smile
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#2202453 - 12/24/13 04:29 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Why are there different versions existing for some of the waltz? Just curious.
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#2202471 - 12/24/13 05:07 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I just sent Joel a PM asking for the Waltz No. 14 in e minor Op. Posthumous (KK IVa/15).


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#2202563 - 12/24/13 09:26 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: FarmGirl]
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Originally Posted By: FarmGirl
Why are there different versions existing for some of the waltz? Just curious.


This question is best answered by quoting from Bailie's book :

Only eight of the Waltzes were published during Chopin's lifetime. Most editions, until recent years, published fourteen numbers, including the posthumous Ops 69 and 70, and the popular Waltz in E minor (without opus number). The Henle Edition now publishes nineteen Waltzes. Four of the posthumous numbers (Op.69 Nos 1 and 2 and Op.70 Nos 1 and 2) are given in two versions: those taken from autographs, and those published after Chopin's death by his friend Fontana. The Paderewski Edition similarly gives two versions of Ops 69 Nos 1 and 2, and of Op.70 No.2. Since the majority of publishers have hitherto adopted the Fontata versions, these inevitably are the readings that are generally know to players and listeners. [...] But players will find comparisons of the different versions fascinating. As well as major differences in structure, there are subtle variations of nuance, inner fragments, rhythmic details and so on. (Bailie, p. 218)

Henle says much the same in the Preface to their edition of the Chopin Waltzes.

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#2202564 - 12/24/13 09:29 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Chopin was a doofus not to publish some of those waltzes.

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#2202565 - 12/24/13 09:32 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
Chopin was a doofus not to publish some of those waltzes.


We might think so now, but the following bears consideration : Some of the Waltzes that were not intended for publication were written as personal gifts to friends. During his lifetime, Chopin deemed it inappropriate to make these works available to the public at large, Waltzes that were, initially, private gifts.

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#2202566 - 12/24/13 09:35 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: BruceD]
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Originally Posted By: BruceD
Originally Posted By: JoelW
Chopin was a doofus not to publish some of those waltzes.


We might think so now, but the following bears consideration : Some of the Waltzes that were not intended for publication were written as personal gifts to friends. During his lifetime, Chopin deemed it inappropriate to make these works available to the public at large, Waltzes that were, initially, private gifts.

Regards,


What a lovely gesture! Maria Wodzinska was lucky to receive such a gem (the l'adieu waltz).

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#2202592 - 12/24/13 11:26 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: BruceD]
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Originally Posted By: BruceD
Originally Posted By: FarmGirl
Why are there different versions existing for some of the waltz? Just curious.


This question is best answered by quoting from Bailie's book :

Only eight of the Waltzes were published during Chopin's lifetime. Most editions, until recent years, published fourteen numbers, including the posthumous Ops 69 and 70, and the popular Waltz in E minor (without opus number). The Henle Edition now publishes nineteen Waltzes. Four of the posthumous numbers (Op.69 Nos 1 and 2 and Op.70 Nos 1 and 2) are given in two versions: those taken from autographs, and those published after Chopin's death by his friend Fontana. The Paderewski Edition similarly gives two versions of Ops 69 Nos 1 and 2, and of Op.70 No.2. Since the majority of publishers have hitherto adopted the Fontata versions, these inevitably are the readings that are generally know to players and listeners. [...] But players will find comparisons of the different versions fascinating. As well as major differences in structure, there are subtle variations of nuance, inner fragments, rhythmic details and so on. (Bailie, p. 218)

Henle says much the same in the Preface to their edition of the Chopin Waltzes.

Regards,


Thank you for the complete explanation.
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#2202990 - 12/26/13 04:13 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Come on guys -- four waltzes left. Let's get them filled. smile

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#2203155 - 12/26/13 02:57 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I did a mistake and didn't send a PM. And I don't know anything about the posthomous walzes. Therefore I'm not going to participate this time. But I'll listen to the recital and give my comments.

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#2203163 - 12/26/13 03:15 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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All pieces are now taken. These are our participants:


Nocturnes:

1) B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1 (doctor S)
2) E-flat major, Op. 9 No. 2 (Pavel.K)
3) B major, Op. 9 No. 3 (ansatz737)
4) F major, Op. 15 No. 1 (Roland The Beagle)
5) F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 (DameMyra)
6) G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 (FarmGirl)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 27 No. 1 (Morodiene)
8) D-flat major, Op. 27 No. 2 (chopinoholic)
9) B major, Op. 32 No. 1 (Brad Hoehne)
10) A-flat major, Op. 32 No. 2 (dynamobt)
11) G minor, Op. 37 No. 1 (ElaineAllegro)
12) G major, Op. 37 No. 2 (SlatterFan)
13) C minor, Op. 48 No. 1 (Kreisler)
14) F-sharp minor, Op. 48 No. 2 (BruceD)
15) F minor, Op. 55 No. 1 (Damon)
16) E-flat major, Op. 55 No. 2 (jeffreyjones)
17) B major, Op. 62 No. 1 (Emanuel Ravelli)
18) E major, Op. 62 No. 2 (dire tonic)
19) E minor, Op. 72 No. 1 (PikaPianist)
20) C-sharp minor, P1/16 (-Frycek)
21) C minor, P2/8 (TwoSnowflakes)



Waltzes:

1) E-flat major, Op. 18 (Morodiene)
2) A-flat major, Op. 34 No. 1 (hreichgott)
3) A minor, Op. 34 No. 2 (Pathbreaker)
4) F major, Op. 34 No. 3 (ansatz737)
5) A-flat major, Op. 42 (Carey)
6) D-flat major, Op. 64 No. 1 (AZNpiano)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 64 No. 2 (Sammae)
8) A-flat major, Op. 64 No. 3 (timmyab)
9) A-flat major, Op. 69 No. 1 (BruceD)
10) B minor, Op. 69 No. 2 (Sam S)
11) G-flat major, Op. 70 No. 1 (Tim Adrianson)
12) F minor, Op. 70 No. 2 (carey)
13) D-flat major, Op. 70 No. 3 (musica71)
14) E minor, KK IVa/15 (dannylux)
15) E major, KK IVa/12 (Tim Adrianson)
16) A-flat major, KK IVa/13 (Cinnamonbear)
17) E-flat major, KK IVa/14 (Cinnamonbear)
18) E-flat major, KK IVb/10 (maxmila)
19) A minor, KK IVb/11 (FSO)

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#2203177 - 12/26/13 03:50 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I just sent a PM to Joel claiming:

16) A-flat major, KK IVa/13
17) E-flat major, KK IVa/14

One more to go~~ Who want's it? Poly? Joel?

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#2203266 - 12/26/13 07:15 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Just PMed Joel for the remaining tiny little waltz (E-flat major, KK IVb/10).


Edited by maxmila (12/26/13 07:16 PM)

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#2203289 - 12/26/13 08:19 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I added the complete list to the first post in the topic - should be easier for people to reference/find it now.

Alright everyone, on your mark, get set...PRACTICE! laugh
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#2203461 - 12/27/13 07:22 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Kreisler]
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OK. So when is the go live date? When is the cut off date for submissions?
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#2203485 - 12/27/13 09:38 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: -Frycek]
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Originally Posted By: -Frycek
OK. So when is the go live date? When is the cut off date for submissions?


The 22nd of March is the submission date. I looked through all the posts and didn't see any other information (submission format, go live date, audio or video, etc...)

I'm assuming it's going to work like the Mazurka recital but I'm not sure.
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#2203500 - 12/27/13 10:08 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Thank you.
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#2203591 - 12/27/13 02:11 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Kreisler]
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Originally Posted By: Kreisler
I'm assuming it's going to work like the Mazurka recital but I'm not sure.

All submissions will be posted at the same time.

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#2203604 - 12/27/13 02:29 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
Originally Posted By: Kreisler
I'm assuming it's going to work like the Mazurka recital but I'm not sure.

All submissions will be posted at the same time.


Hmmm... I wonder...
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#2203609 - 12/27/13 02:35 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I'm not sure that's a good idea, Joel, for various reasons. But carry on.
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