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#2201499 - 12/22/13 05:08 PM Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes
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Hello, everyone.

I have agreed to wait to launch the nocturne/waltz recital until after the mazurka recital is over. Many of you are concerned about getting a spot in the recital, so I am setting a date in advance. The sign-up will commence on this thread tonight at 11:00pm, EST.

All pieces are now taken. These are our participants:


Nocturnes:

1) B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1 (doctor S)
2) E-flat major, Op. 9 No. 2 (Pavel.K)
3) B major, Op. 9 No. 3 (ansatz737)
4) F major, Op. 15 No. 1 (Roland The Beagle)
5) F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 (DameMyra)
6) G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 (FarmGirl)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 27 No. 1 (Morodiene)
8) D-flat major, Op. 27 No. 2 (chopinoholic)
9) B major, Op. 32 No. 1 (Brad Hoehne)
10) A-flat major, Op. 32 No. 2 (dynamobt)
11) G minor, Op. 37 No. 1 (ElaineAllegro)
12) G major, Op. 37 No. 2 (SlatterFan)
13) C minor, Op. 48 No. 1 (Kreisler)
14) F-sharp minor, Op. 48 No. 2 (BruceD)
15) F minor, Op. 55 No. 1 (Damon)
16) E-flat major, Op. 55 No. 2 (jeffreyjones)
17) B major, Op. 62 No. 1 (Emanuel Ravelli)
18) E major, Op. 62 No. 2 (dire tonic)
19) E minor, Op. 72 No. 1 (PikaPianist)
20) C-sharp minor, P1/16 (-Frycek)
21) C minor, P2/8 (TwoSnowflakes)



Waltzes:

1) E-flat major, Op. 18 (Morodiene)
2) A-flat major, Op. 34 No. 1 (hreichgott)
3) A minor, Op. 34 No. 2 (Pathbreaker)
4) F major, Op. 34 No. 3 (ansatz737)
5) A-flat major, Op. 42 (Carey)
6) D-flat major, Op. 64 No. 1 (AZNpiano)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 64 No. 2 (Sammae)
8) A-flat major, Op. 64 No. 3 (timmyab)
9) A-flat major, Op. 69 No. 1 (BruceD)
10) B minor, Op. 69 No. 2 (Sam S)
11) G-flat major, Op. 70 No. 1 (Tim Adrianson)
12) F minor, Op. 70 No. 2 (carey)
13) D-flat major, Op. 70 No. 3 (musica71)
14) E minor, KK IVa/15 (dannylux)
15) E major, KK IVa/12 (Tim Adrianson)
16) A-flat major, KK IVa/13 (Cinnamonbear)
17) E-flat major, KK IVa/14 (Cinnamonbear)
18) E-flat major, KK IVb/10 (maxmila)
19) A minor, KK IVb/11 (FSO)


Edited by Kreisler (12/26/13 08:18 PM)
Edit Reason: Added the official list

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#2201505 - 12/22/13 05:17 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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#2201506 - 12/22/13 05:18 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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#2201507 - 12/22/13 05:18 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Read or be red, Damon... laugh
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#2201516 - 12/22/13 05:26 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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#2201525 - 12/22/13 05:38 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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oh, it will be at 4:00am in my time zone ... maybe next time smile
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#2201527 - 12/22/13 05:41 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Pavel.K]
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Originally Posted By: Pavel.K
oh, it will be at 4:00am in my time zone ... maybe next time smile


Don't be so pessimistic. There are a lot of slots between all nocturnes and waltzes. You could easily snag one. smile

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#2201528 - 12/22/13 05:47 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW

Don't be so pessimistic. There are a lot of slots between all nocturnes and waltzes. You could easily snag one. smile


Ok, I will check tomorrow morning. Thanks. smile
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#2201546 - 12/22/13 06:33 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Sign-up commencement has been changed to 11:00pm, EST.

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#2201551 - 12/22/13 06:42 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Okay....11pm EST, that settles it. Please no more changes, it's driving people a little crazy.
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#2201556 - 12/22/13 06:49 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Kreisler]
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Originally Posted By: Kreisler
Okay....11pm EST, that settles it. Please no more changes, it's driving people a little crazy.

Sorry to drive you crazy, Kreisler, but it was only one change. I'm simply respecting Polyphonist's request. smile

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#2201563 - 12/22/13 07:01 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I will be signing up for dire tonic, as he will be without Internet access for 15 hours
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#2201564 - 12/22/13 07:01 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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No prob...it seems to be a popular recital and I just didn't want a bunch of people logging in early and complaining. (Mostly because I tend to be someone people like to complain to.) wink
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#2201585 - 12/22/13 08:41 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Kreisler]
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Originally Posted By: Kreisler
No prob...it seems to be a popular recital and I just didn't want a bunch of people logging in early and complaining. (Mostly because I tend to be someone people like to complain to.) wink
Are you complaining about complaints? smile
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#2201595 - 12/22/13 09:35 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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YES! And now I'm complaining about you complaining that I'm complaining about complaints! laugh
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#2201598 - 12/22/13 09:48 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Kreisler]
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YES! And now I'm complaining about you complaining that I'm complaining about complaints! laugh
Now I'm lost. Where do I file a complaint?
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#2201599 - 12/22/13 10:01 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Morodiene]
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When will the recordings be due? How many can we sign up for? One, one of each, some other quantity? Thank you!
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#2201600 - 12/22/13 10:03 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: ElaineAllegro]
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When will the recordings be due? How many can we sign up for? One, one of each, some other quantity? Thank you!
Presumably this would all be announced in about an hour smile
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#2201613 - 12/22/13 10:45 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
Originally Posted By: Kreisler
Okay....11pm EST, that settles it. Please no more changes, it's driving people a little crazy.

Sorry to drive you crazy, Kreisler, but it was only one change. I'm simply respecting Polyphonist's request. smile

Yes; thanks for that. The last batch of Mazurkas has now been posted, and the Mazurka recital is complete. So please post whenever you're ready. smile
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#2201618 - 12/22/13 11:00 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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#2201619 - 12/22/13 11:00 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Op 32 no 2
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#2201620 - 12/22/13 11:01 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Op 62 no 2 for dire tonic
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#2201621 - 12/22/13 11:01 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Welcome to the Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital sign-up!

Pieces should be claimed via private message. Public posts will not be counted. You may claim multiple pieces, listed in order of priority. To insure the inclusion of as many participators as possible, I will be listing only one piece per person until I feel it is appropriate to list more. When you submit your recording(s), please title the message "SUBMISSION". All submissions are due Saturday, March 22, 2014. Questions and comments are welcome. Good luck and have fun!

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CURRENT LIST:


Nocturnes:

1) B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1 (doctor S)
2) E-flat major, Op. 9 No. 2 (Pavel.K)
3) B major, Op. 9 No. 3 (ansatz737)
4) F major, Op. 15 No. 1 (Roland The Beagle)
5) F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 (DameMyra)
6) G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 (FarmGirl)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 27 No. 1 (Morodiene)
8) D-flat major, Op. 27 No. 2 (chopinoholic)
9) B major, Op. 32 No. 1 (Brad Hoehne)
10) A-flat major, Op. 32 No. 2 (dynamobt)
11) G minor, Op. 37 No. 1 (ElaineAllegro)
12) G major, Op. 37 No. 2 (SlatterFan)
13) C minor, Op. 48 No. 1 (Kreisler)
14) F-sharp minor, Op. 48 No. 2 (BruceD)
15) F minor, Op. 55 No. 1 (Damon)
16) E-flat major, Op. 55 No. 2 (jeffreyjones)
17) B major, Op. 62 No. 1 (Emanuel Ravelli)
18) E major, Op. 62 No. 2 (dire tonic)
19) E minor, Op. 72 No. 1 (PikaPianist)
20) C-sharp minor, P1/16 (-Frycek)
21) C minor, P2/8 (TwoSnowflakes)


Waltzes:

1) E-flat major, Op. 18
2) A-flat major, Op. 34 No. 1 (hreichgott)
3) A minor, Op. 34 No. 2 (Pathbreaker)
4) F major, Op. 34 No. 3
5) A-flat major, Op. 42 (Carey)
6) D-flat major, Op. 64 No. 1 (AZNpiano)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 64 No. 2 (Sammae)
8) A-flat major, Op. 64 No. 3 (timmyab)
9) A-flat major, Op. 69 No. 1
10) B minor, Op. 69 No. 2 (Sam S)
11) G-flat major, Op. 70 No. 1 (Tim Adrianson)
12) F minor, Op. 70 No. 2
13) D-flat major, Op. 70 No. 3
14) E minor, KK IVa/15
15) E major, KK IVa/12
16) A-flat major, KK IVa/13
17) E-flat major, KK IVa/14
18) E-flat major, KK IVb/10
19) A minor, KK IVb/11 (FSO)



Edited by JoelW (12/23/13 07:08 PM)
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#2201622 - 12/22/13 11:01 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Op 32 #1, please.

Oh, wait the message says "public posts will not be counted."


Edited by Brad Hoehne (12/22/13 11:07 PM)
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#2201623 - 12/22/13 11:01 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Op 62 no. 2 please.

If anyone wants to swap, I also like and have played and wouldn't mind switching to:
Op 55 no 1
Op 32 no 1
Op 72 no 1
Op 34 no 1

Edit: sorry for the public post. Leaving this up just to indicate willingness to switch pieces.


Edited by hreichgott (12/22/13 11:12 PM)
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#2201624 - 12/22/13 11:02 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I'm signing up for dire tonic. He wants op 62 no 2
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#2201625 - 12/22/13 11:02 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Polyphonist :

First : A great thank you for all that you have done to organize and present the Chopin Mazurka recital. Listening to all the performances, I feel that I am getting to know some of the members a little better, since music is such a great communicator.

Second : For the Chopin Nocturnes and Waltzes, please sign me up for the Nocturne in F-sharp minor, Op. 48, No. 2.

Thank you.

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#2201626 - 12/22/13 11:04 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: A Guy]
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Nocturne, please:
11) G minor, Op. 37 No. 1
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#2201627 - 12/22/13 11:04 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I think he wants private messages for official claims on pieces.
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#2201628 - 12/22/13 11:04 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Op 15-3 please
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#2201631 - 12/22/13 11:07 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
Waltzes:

20) F-sharp minor, KK Ib/7

I thought it had been established that this is not an authentic Chopin composition?
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#2201633 - 12/22/13 11:08 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Oops, please excuse my sending the public notice. I'm still getting familiar with this forum...
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#2201641 - 12/22/13 11:21 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Do we need a special subject line to claim a piece? I just wrote "nocturne 15-3 please". Hope it was ok.
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#2201646 - 12/22/13 11:25 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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IMPORTANT:

Please do not title your request "SUBMISSION". Only use that title for actual submissions of recordings. Thank you.

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#2201649 - 12/22/13 11:30 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: JoelW
Waltzes:

20) F-sharp minor, KK Ib/7

I thought it had been established that this is not an authentic Chopin composition?


Oops, forgive me. Just did some research. Removing it from list now.

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#2201651 - 12/22/13 11:36 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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IMPORTANT:

When requesting pieces, please incorporate waltzes and nocturnes into one single request prioritization. Do not have separate prioritizations for each category. Thank you.

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#2201659 - 12/22/13 11:54 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Joel, you can edit your last list instead of posting new ones. It makes the thread much easier to read.
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#2201661 - 12/22/13 11:57 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Joel, you can edit your last list instead of posting new ones. It makes the thread much easier to read.


You can only edit a post for so long, but you're right. It won't fix the problem but it will help. wink

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#2201662 - 12/22/13 11:58 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Joel, you can edit your last list instead of posting new ones. It makes the thread much easier to read.


You can only edit a post for so long.

You can definitely still edit that one.
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#2201682 - 12/23/13 01:29 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Sent a PM for the E-flat Nocturne, Op. 55/2.

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#2201705 - 12/23/13 03:55 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Sent a PM for opus 27 no.2. In my opinion the most beautiful nocturne there is.
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#2201712 - 12/23/13 04:35 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Sent PM for posthumous nocturne in C sharp minor
"lento con gran espressone". KKIVa 16 "cis-moll"
This is nr 20a in Henle.
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#2201726 - 12/23/13 06:03 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Just to let you know that I get up at 5:00am (GMT+1) and sent PM for 9#2. grin
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#2201730 - 12/23/13 06:46 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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And I sent a PM for Waltz 69/2

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#2201732 - 12/23/13 07:05 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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PM sent to claim waltz op64 no3.

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#2201751 - 12/23/13 08:36 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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PM sent. Op 72 No 1, E minor nocturne.


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#2201766 - 12/23/13 09:08 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Op.37 no.2 for me, please

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#2201767 - 12/23/13 09:11 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Ganddalf - hope you did not forget to PM him
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#2201786 - 12/23/13 09:42 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I PM'd for Waltz in C-sharp minor, Op. 64 No. 2.

I'm just back to playing the piano after a very long hiatus! I'm re-learning some of the pieces I played before and was trying to decide what to add to my repertoire. This recital answered my question! I hope 3 months will be enough for me to do this new piece some justice!
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#2201790 - 12/23/13 09:49 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I've never really played much Chopin so I'm using this as an excuse to learn something new. I think I always avoided playing Chopin because of an early bad experience. Let's just say it was a significantly humbling experience with a Mazurka. Anyways, I'm going to give the Op. 34 no. 2 in A minor a shot because it's always been a favorite. (PM sent)

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#2201792 - 12/23/13 09:50 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: chopinoholic]
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Sent a PM for opus 27 no.2. In my opinion the most beautiful nocturne there is.

That would go to the 62/1 - but 27/2 is pretty high up there.
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#2201796 - 12/23/13 10:02 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Ganddalf]
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Op.37 no.2 for me, please

I sent a request for Op 37 No 2 a few hours ago, sorry. (After a comedy of errors where I set my alarm for 3.30am local time, then reset my alarm for 4am and collapsed asleep with exhaustion, and was so tired that I got my opus numbers mixed up and requested Op 32 No 2 in error, and finally realised this morning.)

Polite request to organizers: 4pm Eastern Time is a good time for launching things like this in the future. At that time it is early morning in Australia, New Zealand and the Pacific; afternoon in The Americas; and evening in Europe, Africa and the Middle East. That's pretty inclusive.
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#2201798 - 12/23/13 10:03 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Polyphonist]
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Sent a PM for opus 27 no.2. In my opinion the most beautiful nocturne there is.

That would go to the 62/1 - but 27/2 is pretty high up there.


Ah yes, the "musical saw".. beautiful but also a very strange trio. My favorite is Op. 55/2 because it's so free-spirited and optimistic.

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#2201815 - 12/23/13 10:41 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: jeffreyjones]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: chopinoholic
Sent a PM for opus 27 no.2. In my opinion the most beautiful nocturne there is.

That would go to the 62/1 - but 27/2 is pretty high up there.


Ah yes, the "musical saw".. beautiful but also a very strange trio. My favorite is Op. 55/2 because it's so free-spirited and optimistic.


For me personally, the most beautiful Nocturne is the one I happen to be playing at the time........ grin
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#2201845 - 12/23/13 11:29 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: carey]
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For me personally, the most beautiful Nocturne is the one I happen to be playing at the time........ grin


That's my standard reply to the question : "Who is your favourite (favorite) composer?"

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#2201847 - 12/23/13 11:30 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I know I haven't been here for a while (mostly thanks to school), but this looks fun! It also provides an incentive to learn some Chopin since I have barely any in my repertoire. My absolute favorite nocturne is 55/2 without a doubt, but as that isn't available I just sent a PM requesting op. 9 no. 3 (as my first choice).
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#2201885 - 12/23/13 12:55 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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There are only 12 pieces left. Please check with the current list before requesting you piece. Thank you.

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#2201902 - 12/23/13 01:45 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Polyphonist, why don't you join us in the recital? &#128513;
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#2201943 - 12/23/13 03:43 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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All nocturnes are taken. 11 waltzes left!

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#2201984 - 12/23/13 05:41 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I just sent a pm for Waltz op. 64 no. 1
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#2202000 - 12/23/13 06:39 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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And I just sent him an e-mail "re-claiming" the Waltz Opus 42. I'm gonna "stand tall" and go for it !!!!! grin
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#2202109 - 12/24/13 01:03 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Grande Valse! Way to go, Phil, looking forward to it.
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#2202140 - 12/24/13 02:38 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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And I'm looking forward to Kreisler's Opus 48 No. 1 !! smile
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#2202230 - 12/24/13 07:49 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Me too! The three I've played were already taken, so I gotta learn a new one. laugh
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#2202260 - 12/24/13 09:23 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I'm so excited to hear some of those waltzes! I have some I've worked on previously, but with time constraints and the Tchaikovsky recital, I decided to just rework a nocturne (27/1). This is going to be a great recital!!
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#2202312 - 12/24/13 11:02 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Kreisler]
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Me too! The three I've played were already taken, so I gotta learn a new one. laugh

Count me in on this. Op 48 No 1 is one of my all-time favorite Chopin pieces. smile
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#2202341 - 12/24/13 12:02 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I don't have access to a piano at the moment, but now that I'm looking at the music to op 9 no 3 I really hope I can actually play it creditably. i had forgotten how awkward that middle section was... but I suppose challenges are always good!
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#2202370 - 12/24/13 12:47 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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#2202404 - 12/24/13 02:31 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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The sign-up for the waltzes is moving too slow. I'm going to accept multiple pieces per person now. If you already have a piece, feel free to claim one of the last waltzes.

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#2202409 - 12/24/13 02:46 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Welcome to the Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital sign-up!

Pieces should be claimed via private message. Public posts will not be counted. You may claim multiple pieces, listed in order of priority. To insure the inclusion of as many participators as possible, I will be listing only one piece per person until I feel it is appropriate to list more. When you submit your recording(s), please title the message "SUBMISSION". All submissions are due Saturday, March 22, 2014. Questions and comments are welcome. Good luck and have fun!

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CURRENT LIST:


Nocturnes:

1) B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1 (doctor S)
2) E-flat major, Op. 9 No. 2 (Pavel.K)
3) B major, Op. 9 No. 3 (ansatz737)
4) F major, Op. 15 No. 1 (Roland The Beagle)
5) F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 (DameMyra)
6) G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 (FarmGirl)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 27 No. 1 (Morodiene)
8) D-flat major, Op. 27 No. 2 (chopinoholic)
9) B major, Op. 32 No. 1 (Brad Hoehne)
10) A-flat major, Op. 32 No. 2 (dynamobt)
11) G minor, Op. 37 No. 1 (ElaineAllegro)
12) G major, Op. 37 No. 2 (SlatterFan)
13) C minor, Op. 48 No. 1 (Kreisler)
14) F-sharp minor, Op. 48 No. 2 (BruceD)
15) F minor, Op. 55 No. 1 (Damon)
16) E-flat major, Op. 55 No. 2 (jeffreyjones)
17) B major, Op. 62 No. 1 (Emanuel Ravelli)
18) E major, Op. 62 No. 2 (dire tonic)
19) E minor, Op. 72 No. 1 (PikaPianist)
20) C-sharp minor, P1/16 (-Frycek)
21) C minor, P2/8 (TwoSnowflakes)


Waltzes:

1) E-flat major, Op. 18 (Morodiene)
2) A-flat major, Op. 34 No. 1 (hreichgott)
3) A minor, Op. 34 No. 2 (Pathbreaker)
4) F major, Op. 34 No. 3 (ansatz737)
5) A-flat major, Op. 42 (Carey)
6) D-flat major, Op. 64 No. 1 (AZNpiano)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 64 No. 2 (Sammae)
8) A-flat major, Op. 64 No. 3 (timmyab)
9) A-flat major, Op. 69 No. 1 (BruceD)
10) B minor, Op. 69 No. 2 (Sam S)
11) G-flat major, Op. 70 No. 1 (Tim Adrianson)
12) F minor, Op. 70 No. 2 (carey)
13) D-flat major, Op. 70 No. 3 (musica71)
14) E minor, KK IVa/15 (dannylux)
15) E major, KK IVa/12
16) A-flat major, KK IVa/13
17) E-flat major, KK IVa/14
18) E-flat major, KK IVb/10
19) A minor, KK IVb/11 (FSO)

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#2202412 - 12/24/13 02:54 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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OK, so I couldn't resist! But I have worked on Op 18 previously and I think I can manage it smile
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#2202453 - 12/24/13 04:29 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Why are there different versions existing for some of the waltz? Just curious.
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#2202471 - 12/24/13 05:07 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I just sent Joel a PM asking for the Waltz No. 14 in e minor Op. Posthumous (KK IVa/15).


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#2202563 - 12/24/13 09:26 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: FarmGirl]
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Why are there different versions existing for some of the waltz? Just curious.


This question is best answered by quoting from Bailie's book :

Only eight of the Waltzes were published during Chopin's lifetime. Most editions, until recent years, published fourteen numbers, including the posthumous Ops 69 and 70, and the popular Waltz in E minor (without opus number). The Henle Edition now publishes nineteen Waltzes. Four of the posthumous numbers (Op.69 Nos 1 and 2 and Op.70 Nos 1 and 2) are given in two versions: those taken from autographs, and those published after Chopin's death by his friend Fontana. The Paderewski Edition similarly gives two versions of Ops 69 Nos 1 and 2, and of Op.70 No.2. Since the majority of publishers have hitherto adopted the Fontata versions, these inevitably are the readings that are generally know to players and listeners. [...] But players will find comparisons of the different versions fascinating. As well as major differences in structure, there are subtle variations of nuance, inner fragments, rhythmic details and so on. (Bailie, p. 218)

Henle says much the same in the Preface to their edition of the Chopin Waltzes.

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#2202564 - 12/24/13 09:29 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Chopin was a doofus not to publish some of those waltzes.

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#2202565 - 12/24/13 09:32 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Chopin was a doofus not to publish some of those waltzes.


We might think so now, but the following bears consideration : Some of the Waltzes that were not intended for publication were written as personal gifts to friends. During his lifetime, Chopin deemed it inappropriate to make these works available to the public at large, Waltzes that were, initially, private gifts.

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#2202566 - 12/24/13 09:35 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: BruceD]
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Chopin was a doofus not to publish some of those waltzes.


We might think so now, but the following bears consideration : Some of the Waltzes that were not intended for publication were written as personal gifts to friends. During his lifetime, Chopin deemed it inappropriate to make these works available to the public at large, Waltzes that were, initially, private gifts.

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What a lovely gesture! Maria Wodzinska was lucky to receive such a gem (the l'adieu waltz).

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#2202592 - 12/24/13 11:26 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: BruceD]
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Originally Posted By: FarmGirl
Why are there different versions existing for some of the waltz? Just curious.


This question is best answered by quoting from Bailie's book :

Only eight of the Waltzes were published during Chopin's lifetime. Most editions, until recent years, published fourteen numbers, including the posthumous Ops 69 and 70, and the popular Waltz in E minor (without opus number). The Henle Edition now publishes nineteen Waltzes. Four of the posthumous numbers (Op.69 Nos 1 and 2 and Op.70 Nos 1 and 2) are given in two versions: those taken from autographs, and those published after Chopin's death by his friend Fontana. The Paderewski Edition similarly gives two versions of Ops 69 Nos 1 and 2, and of Op.70 No.2. Since the majority of publishers have hitherto adopted the Fontata versions, these inevitably are the readings that are generally know to players and listeners. [...] But players will find comparisons of the different versions fascinating. As well as major differences in structure, there are subtle variations of nuance, inner fragments, rhythmic details and so on. (Bailie, p. 218)

Henle says much the same in the Preface to their edition of the Chopin Waltzes.

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Thank you for the complete explanation.
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#2202990 - 12/26/13 04:13 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Come on guys -- four waltzes left. Let's get them filled. smile

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#2203155 - 12/26/13 02:57 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I did a mistake and didn't send a PM. And I don't know anything about the posthomous walzes. Therefore I'm not going to participate this time. But I'll listen to the recital and give my comments.

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#2203163 - 12/26/13 03:15 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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All pieces are now taken. These are our participants:


Nocturnes:

1) B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1 (doctor S)
2) E-flat major, Op. 9 No. 2 (Pavel.K)
3) B major, Op. 9 No. 3 (ansatz737)
4) F major, Op. 15 No. 1 (Roland The Beagle)
5) F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 (DameMyra)
6) G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 (FarmGirl)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 27 No. 1 (Morodiene)
8) D-flat major, Op. 27 No. 2 (chopinoholic)
9) B major, Op. 32 No. 1 (Brad Hoehne)
10) A-flat major, Op. 32 No. 2 (dynamobt)
11) G minor, Op. 37 No. 1 (ElaineAllegro)
12) G major, Op. 37 No. 2 (SlatterFan)
13) C minor, Op. 48 No. 1 (Kreisler)
14) F-sharp minor, Op. 48 No. 2 (BruceD)
15) F minor, Op. 55 No. 1 (Damon)
16) E-flat major, Op. 55 No. 2 (jeffreyjones)
17) B major, Op. 62 No. 1 (Emanuel Ravelli)
18) E major, Op. 62 No. 2 (dire tonic)
19) E minor, Op. 72 No. 1 (PikaPianist)
20) C-sharp minor, P1/16 (-Frycek)
21) C minor, P2/8 (TwoSnowflakes)



Waltzes:

1) E-flat major, Op. 18 (Morodiene)
2) A-flat major, Op. 34 No. 1 (hreichgott)
3) A minor, Op. 34 No. 2 (Pathbreaker)
4) F major, Op. 34 No. 3 (ansatz737)
5) A-flat major, Op. 42 (Carey)
6) D-flat major, Op. 64 No. 1 (AZNpiano)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 64 No. 2 (Sammae)
8) A-flat major, Op. 64 No. 3 (timmyab)
9) A-flat major, Op. 69 No. 1 (BruceD)
10) B minor, Op. 69 No. 2 (Sam S)
11) G-flat major, Op. 70 No. 1 (Tim Adrianson)
12) F minor, Op. 70 No. 2 (carey)
13) D-flat major, Op. 70 No. 3 (musica71)
14) E minor, KK IVa/15 (dannylux)
15) E major, KK IVa/12 (Tim Adrianson)
16) A-flat major, KK IVa/13 (Cinnamonbear)
17) E-flat major, KK IVa/14 (Cinnamonbear)
18) E-flat major, KK IVb/10 (maxmila)
19) A minor, KK IVb/11 (FSO)

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#2203177 - 12/26/13 03:50 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I just sent a PM to Joel claiming:

16) A-flat major, KK IVa/13
17) E-flat major, KK IVa/14

One more to go~~ Who want's it? Poly? Joel?

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#2203266 - 12/26/13 07:15 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Just PMed Joel for the remaining tiny little waltz (E-flat major, KK IVb/10).


Edited by maxmila (12/26/13 07:16 PM)

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#2203289 - 12/26/13 08:19 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I added the complete list to the first post in the topic - should be easier for people to reference/find it now.

Alright everyone, on your mark, get set...PRACTICE! laugh
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#2203461 - 12/27/13 07:22 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Kreisler]
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OK. So when is the go live date? When is the cut off date for submissions?
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#2203485 - 12/27/13 09:38 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: -Frycek]
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OK. So when is the go live date? When is the cut off date for submissions?


The 22nd of March is the submission date. I looked through all the posts and didn't see any other information (submission format, go live date, audio or video, etc...)

I'm assuming it's going to work like the Mazurka recital but I'm not sure.
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#2203500 - 12/27/13 10:08 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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#2203591 - 12/27/13 02:11 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Kreisler]
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Originally Posted By: Kreisler
I'm assuming it's going to work like the Mazurka recital but I'm not sure.

All submissions will be posted at the same time.

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#2203604 - 12/27/13 02:29 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
Originally Posted By: Kreisler
I'm assuming it's going to work like the Mazurka recital but I'm not sure.

All submissions will be posted at the same time.


Hmmm... I wonder...
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#2203609 - 12/27/13 02:35 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I'm not sure that's a good idea, Joel, for various reasons. But carry on.
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#2208155 - 01/04/14 02:43 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I'm way too late for this party but I think the one nocturne I know was already claimed from the start.

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#2208656 - 01/05/14 01:46 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I may have bitten off more than I can chew. I recently started some other pieces and I think I'll have to back out of the Waltz Op 18. I'll still do the Nocturne 27/1, but if anyone wants the Waltz, its up for grabs!
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#2208743 - 01/05/14 03:18 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Morodiene]
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I may have bitten off more than I can chew. I recently started some other pieces and I think I'll have to back out of the Waltz Op 18. I'll still do the Nocturne 27/1, but if anyone wants the Waltz, its up for grabs!


I've sent a PM to Joel re: the Opus 18.
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#2208824 - 01/05/14 05:04 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: carey]
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Originally Posted By: Morodiene
I may have bitten off more than I can chew. I recently started some other pieces and I think I'll have to back out of the Waltz Op 18. I'll still do the Nocturne 27/1, but if anyone wants the Waltz, its up for grabs!


I've sent a PM to Joel re: the Opus 18.
Thanks, carey! I know it's in good hands now laugh
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#2208844 - 01/05/14 05:28 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I missed the opportunity to participate here. The reason was that I was busy with travels and holiday preparations and had very limited time to read the posts of this thread. I just browsed through some of the posts and "signed up" for one of the nocturnes without noticing that a PM was required.

If the situation arises that somebody wants to skip participation I could be interested in taking over the piece. This depends, of course, on which piece and how long before the deadline. I'll not be able to study one of the long waltzes or very difficult nocturnes in four weeks.

Meanwhile I'm going to focus on the Tchaikovsky recital. And I look forward to listening to the performances in this recital even if I don't get the chance to participate myself.


Edited by Ganddalf (01/05/14 05:29 PM)

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#2208927 - 01/05/14 07:44 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Guys, I have no power to edit the list anymore and I'm not going to keep posting a bunch of new ones. If it's okay with Kreisler, I would ask that you all send your requests to him. But please, try to keep to your pieces.

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#2208932 - 01/05/14 07:53 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Guys, I have no power to edit the list anymore and I'm not going to keep posting a bunch of new ones. If it's okay with Kreisler, I would ask that you all send your requests to him. But please, try to keep to your pieces.


How about we do it like in the ABF Tchaikovsky thread, where each person just updates the list themselves. Copy and paste.
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#2208934 - 01/05/14 07:56 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Morodiene]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
Guys, I have no power to edit the list anymore and I'm not going to keep posting a bunch of new ones. If it's okay with Kreisler, I would ask that you all send your requests to him. But please, try to keep to your pieces.


How about we do it like in the ABF Tchaikovsky thread, where each person just updates the list themselves. Copy and paste.

Hmmm. I guess that could work now. Y'all don't need me anymore. Have at it.

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#2208945 - 01/05/14 08:22 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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UPDATED LIST

All pieces are now taken. These are our participants:


Nocturnes:

1) B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1 (doctor S)
2) E-flat major, Op. 9 No. 2 (Pavel.K)
3) B major, Op. 9 No. 3 (ansatz737)
4) F major, Op. 15 No. 1 (Roland The Beagle)
5) F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 (DameMyra)
6) G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 (FarmGirl)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 27 No. 1 (Morodiene)
8) D-flat major, Op. 27 No. 2 (chopinoholic)
9) B major, Op. 32 No. 1 (Brad Hoehne)
10) A-flat major, Op. 32 No. 2 (dynamobt)
11) G minor, Op. 37 No. 1 (ElaineAllegro)
12) G major, Op. 37 No. 2 (SlatterFan)
13) C minor, Op. 48 No. 1 (Kreisler)
14) F-sharp minor, Op. 48 No. 2 (BruceD)
15) F minor, Op. 55 No. 1 (Damon)
16) E-flat major, Op. 55 No. 2 (jeffreyjones)
17) B major, Op. 62 No. 1 (Emanuel Ravelli)
18) E major, Op. 62 No. 2 (dire tonic)
19) E minor, Op. 72 No. 1 (PikaPianist)
20) C-sharp minor, P1/16 (-Frycek)
21) C minor, P2/8 (TwoSnowflakes)



Waltzes:

1) E-flat major, Op. 18 (carey)
2) A-flat major, Op. 34 No. 1 (hreichgott)
3) A minor, Op. 34 No. 2 (Pathbreaker)
4) F major, Op. 34 No. 3 (ansatz737)
5) A-flat major, Op. 42 (Carey)
6) D-flat major, Op. 64 No. 1 (AZNpiano)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 64 No. 2 (Sammae)
8) A-flat major, Op. 64 No. 3 (timmyab)
9) A-flat major, Op. 69 No. 1 (BruceD)
10) B minor, Op. 69 No. 2 (Sam S)
11) G-flat major, Op. 70 No. 1 (Tim Adrianson)
12) F minor, Op. 70 No. 2 (carey)
13) D-flat major, Op. 70 No. 3 (musica71)
14) E minor, KK IVa/15 (dannylux)
15) E major, KK IVa/12 (Tim Adrianson)
16) A-flat major, KK IVa/13 (Cinnamonbear)
17) E-flat major, KK IVa/14 (Cinnamonbear)
18) E-flat major, KK IVb/10 (maxmila)
19) A minor, KK IVb/11 (FSO)
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#2208956 - 01/05/14 08:36 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Ganddalf, would you like the Op. 34 no. 1 valse brilliante in A flat, or does that qualify as a "longer waltz" ? smile I don't mind letting someone else use my spot.
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Edited by hreichgott (01/05/14 08:37 PM)
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#2208986 - 01/05/14 09:56 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: hreichgott]
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Ganddalf, would you like the Op. 34 no. 1 valse brilliante in A flat, or does that qualify as a "longer waltz" ? smile I don't mind letting someone else use my spot.
Heather

Very nice of you Heather. I also offered Ganddalf the Opus 70 No. 2 - so I guess the ball is in his court now.
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#2209061 - 01/06/14 12:17 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: Morodiene
Originally Posted By: JoelW
Guys, I have no power to edit the list anymore and I'm not going to keep posting a bunch of new ones. If it's okay with Kreisler, I would ask that you all send your requests to him. But please, try to keep to your pieces.


How about we do it like in the ABF Tchaikovsky thread, where each person just updates the list themselves. Copy and paste.

Hmmm. I guess that could work now. Y'all don't need me anymore. Have at it.

It should work just fine. Thanks Joel !! thumb
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#2209110 - 01/06/14 03:15 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: hreichgott]
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Originally Posted By: hreichgott
Ganddalf, would you like the Op. 34 no. 1 valse brilliante in A flat, or does that qualify as a "longer waltz" ? smile I don't mind letting someone else use my spot.
Heather


Thanks for the offer. I'm going to play through the waltz this afternoon to get an idea if I'll be able to play it. I have to admit that this is one of the waltzes I fear the most, and possibly I'm going to choose Op 70/2 (kindly offered by Carey) instead. Whatever will be my choice I'll give you feedback no later than tomorrow.

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#2209304 - 01/06/14 11:48 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Just retired. Tickled to be on the roster, but I should have picked an unfamiliar nocturne. Love to learn a waltz and have time enough to do it ...(wouldn't want to let Artur get it...)
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#2209543 - 01/06/14 04:27 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Having to choose between op 34/1 and 70/2 puts me in the common dilemma. Should I aim for a difficult and "impressive" piece that I'm uncertain if I can play or a simple one that I'm sure I'll be able to do reasonably well?

The learning from the Mazurka recital is that I should choose the simple one. I was really thrilled by some of the performances of relatively simple Mazurkas, and therefore I think that the wise choice is Op. 70/2.

The Grande Valse Brilliante (34/1) is an awesome piece of course, and after playing through it I thought that I should perhaps study it on a later occasion. I'm presently hung up with some pretty hard Tchaikovsky pieces, a Beethoven sonata and a Faure imptomptu which I want to prioritise now.

So I'll sign up for Op.70/2. I'm sure that op.34/1 is in good hands.

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#2209552 - 01/06/14 04:34 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Morodiene]
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So here's the "updated" list as of 1/6/14...

Nocturnes:

1) B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1 (doctor S)
2) E-flat major, Op. 9 No. 2 (Pavel.K)
3) B major, Op. 9 No. 3 (ansatz737)
4) F major, Op. 15 No. 1 (Roland The Beagle)
5) F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 (DameMyra)
6) G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 (FarmGirl)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 27 No. 1 (Morodiene)
8) D-flat major, Op. 27 No. 2 (chopinoholic)
9) B major, Op. 32 No. 1 (Brad Hoehne)
10) A-flat major, Op. 32 No. 2 (dynamobt)
11) G minor, Op. 37 No. 1 (ElaineAllegro)
12) G major, Op. 37 No. 2 (SlatterFan)
13) C minor, Op. 48 No. 1 (Kreisler)
14) F-sharp minor, Op. 48 No. 2 (BruceD)
15) F minor, Op. 55 No. 1 (Damon)
16) E-flat major, Op. 55 No. 2 (jeffreyjones)
17) B major, Op. 62 No. 1 (Emanuel Ravelli)
18) E major, Op. 62 No. 2 (dire tonic)
19) E minor, Op. 72 No. 1 (PikaPianist)
20) C-sharp minor, P1/16 (-Frycek)
21) C minor, P2/8 (TwoSnowflakes)



Waltzes:

1) E-flat major, Op. 18 (Carey)
2) A-flat major, Op. 34 No. 1 (hreichgott)
3) A minor, Op. 34 No. 2 (Pathbreaker)
4) F major, Op. 34 No. 3 (ansatz737)
5) A-flat major, Op. 42 (Carey)
6) D-flat major, Op. 64 No. 1 (AZNpiano)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 64 No. 2 (Sammae)
8) A-flat major, Op. 64 No. 3 (timmyab)
9) A-flat major, Op. 69 No. 1 (BruceD)
10) B minor, Op. 69 No. 2 (Sam S)
11) G-flat major, Op. 70 No. 1 (Tim Adrianson)
12) F minor, Op. 70 No. 2 (Ganddalf)
13) D-flat major, Op. 70 No. 3 (musica71)
14) E minor, KK IVa/15 (dannylux)
15) E major, KK IVa/12 (Tim Adrianson)
16) A-flat major, KK IVa/13 (Cinnamonbear)
17) E-flat major, KK IVa/14 (Cinnamonbear)
18) E-flat major, KK IVb/10 (maxmila)
19) A minor, KK IVb/11 (FSO)
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#2212947 - 01/11/14 04:22 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: carey]
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So here's the "updated" list as of 1/11/14

Nocturnes:

1) B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1 (doctor S)
2) E-flat major, Op. 9 No. 2 (Pavel.K)
3) B major, Op. 9 No. 3 (ansatz737)
4) F major, Op. 15 No. 1 (Roland The Beagle)
5) F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 (DameMyra)
6) G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 (FarmGirl)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 27 No. 1 (Morodiene)
8) D-flat major, Op. 27 No. 2 (chopinoholic)
9) B major, Op. 32 No. 1 (Brad Hoehne)
10) A-flat major, Op. 32 No. 2 (dynamobt)
11) G minor, Op. 37 No. 1 (ElaineAllegro)
12) G major, Op. 37 No. 2 (SlatterFan)
13) C minor, Op. 48 No. 1 (Kreisler)
14) F-sharp minor, Op. 48 No. 2 (BruceD)
15) F minor, Op. 55 No. 1 (Damon)
16) E-flat major, Op. 55 No. 2 (jeffreyjones)
17) B major, Op. 62 No. 1 (Emanuel Ravelli)
18) E major, Op. 62 No. 2 (dire tonic)
19) E minor, Op. 72 No. 1 (PikaPianist)
20) C-sharp minor, P1/16 OPEN
21) C minor, P2/8 (TwoSnowflakes)



Waltzes:

1) E-flat major, Op. 18 (Carey)
2) A-flat major, Op. 34 No. 1 (hreichgott)
3) A minor, Op. 34 No. 2 (Pathbreaker)
4) F major, Op. 34 No. 3 (ansatz737)
5) A-flat major, Op. 42 (Carey)
6) D-flat major, Op. 64 No. 1 (AZNpiano)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 64 No. 2 (Sammae)
8) A-flat major, Op. 64 No. 3 (timmyab)
9) A-flat major, Op. 69 No. 1 (BruceD)
10) B minor, Op. 69 No. 2 (Sam S)
11) G-flat major, Op. 70 No. 1 (Tim Adrianson)
12) F minor, Op. 70 No. 2 (Ganddalf)
13) D-flat major, Op. 70 No. 3 (musica71)
14) E minor, KK IVa/15 (dannylux)
15) E major, KK IVa/12 (Tim Adrianson)
16) A-flat major, KK IVa/13 (Cinnamonbear)
17) E-flat major, KK IVa/14 (Cinnamonbear)
18) E-flat major, KK IVb/10 (maxmila)
19) A minor, KK IVb/11 (FSO)
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#2213374 - 01/12/14 01:00 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Many people have messaged me asking me for permission to take or resign a spot. It's not up to me anymore, guys. You are now the ones who control the list.

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#2213383 - 01/12/14 01:12 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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So here's the "updated" list as of 1/12/14

Nocturnes:

1) B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1 (doctor S)
2) E-flat major, Op. 9 No. 2 (Pavel.K)
3) B major, Op. 9 No. 3 (ansatz737)
4) F major, Op. 15 No. 1 (Roland The Beagle)
5) F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 (DameMyra)
6) G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 (FarmGirl)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 27 No. 1 (Morodiene)
8) D-flat major, Op. 27 No. 2 (chopinoholic)
9) B major, Op. 32 No. 1 (Brad Hoehne)
10) A-flat major, Op. 32 No. 2 (dynamobt)
11) G minor, Op. 37 No. 1 (ElaineAllegro)
12) G major, Op. 37 No. 2 (SlatterFan)
13) C minor, Op. 48 No. 1 (Kreisler)
14) F-sharp minor, Op. 48 No. 2 (BruceD)
15) F minor, Op. 55 No. 1 (Damon)
16) E-flat major, Op. 55 No. 2 (jeffreyjones)
17) B major, Op. 62 No. 1 (Emanuel Ravelli)
18) E major, Op. 62 No. 2 (dire tonic)
19) E minor, Op. 72 No. 1 (PikaPianist)
20) C-sharp minor, P1/16 (doctor S)
21) C minor, P2/8 (TwoSnowflakes)


Waltzes:

1) E-flat major, Op. 18 (Carey)
2) A-flat major, Op. 34 No. 1 (hreichgott)
3) A minor, Op. 34 No. 2 (Pathbreaker)
4) F major, Op. 34 No. 3 (ansatz737)
5) A-flat major, Op. 42 (Carey)
6) D-flat major, Op. 64 No. 1 (AZNpiano)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 64 No. 2 (Sammae)
8) A-flat major, Op. 64 No. 3 (timmyab)
9) A-flat major, Op. 69 No. 1 (BruceD)
10) B minor, Op. 69 No. 2 (Sam S)
11) G-flat major, Op. 70 No. 1 (Tim Adrianson)
12) F minor, Op. 70 No. 2 (Ganddalf)
13) D-flat major, Op. 70 No. 3 (musica71)
14) E minor, KK IVa/15 (dannylux)
15) E major, KK IVa/12 (Tim Adrianson)
16) A-flat major, KK IVa/13 (Cinnamonbear)
17) E-flat major, KK IVa/14 (Cinnamonbear)
18) E-flat major, KK IVb/10 (maxmila)
19) A minor, KK IVb/11 (FSO) [/quote]
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#2213438 - 01/12/14 02:52 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Guys, I have no power to edit the list anymore and I'm not going to keep posting a bunch of new ones. If it's okay with Kreisler, I would ask that you all send your requests to him. But please, try to keep to your pieces.


No thanks. This recital is being organized by JoelW. If he's unwilling to curate the list, then I guess people can just handle things themselves.
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#2213468 - 01/12/14 03:38 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Kreisler]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
Guys, I have no power to edit the list anymore and I'm not going to keep posting a bunch of new ones. If it's okay with Kreisler, I would ask that you all send your requests to him. But please, try to keep to your pieces.


No thanks. This recital is being organized by JoelW. If he's unwilling to curate the list, then I guess people can just handle things themselves.

That's what they've been doing.

By the way Kreisler, I had no intention of just passing all of the responsibility onto you. When I posted that, only one or two people had asked for a change of plans. I thought it would've been fair for those two people to just send their request to you so that you could update the final, remaining list (since the other lists got deleted). I had no idea how many people would actually end up requesting changes, so I we just agreed to give them control. I think they only needed an organizer during the chaotic moments. I still will be hosting the event though, so everyone still needs to submit their recordings to me.

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#2213675 - 01/12/14 09:51 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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You are not doing very well with the responsibility of running this recital.
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#2213681 - 01/12/14 09:56 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Well, I have never run a recital like this, but it has to be expected that changes will happen - at least that is what I've noticed in the past. I think it's fine letting participants update as they need to, however. This works well in the ABF recitals I've participated in.
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#2213689 - 01/12/14 10:08 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Polyphonist]
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You are not doing very well with the responsibility of running this recital.

And why do you think that, Mr. Polyphonist?

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#2213694 - 01/12/14 10:16 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I think the crowd-sourcing might work out just fine. Right now, all we're talking about is curating the participant list. As long as everyone understands that the most recently-posted list is the correct one, we're in good shape.
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#2215093 - 01/15/14 10:21 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: doctor S]
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Hello, Unfortunately I have to cancel my assignment to Nocturne 9/2 due to a longterm illness. So this Nocturne is available now. I hope somebody will be able to perform it.

Nocturnes:

1) B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1 (doctor S)
2) E-flat major, Op. 9 No. 2
3) B major, Op. 9 No. 3 (ansatz737)
4) F major, Op. 15 No. 1 (Roland The Beagle)
5) F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 (DameMyra)
6) G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 (FarmGirl)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 27 No. 1 (Morodiene)
8) D-flat major, Op. 27 No. 2 (chopinoholic)
9) B major, Op. 32 No. 1 (Brad Hoehne)
10) A-flat major, Op. 32 No. 2 (dynamobt)
11) G minor, Op. 37 No. 1 (ElaineAllegro)
12) G major, Op. 37 No. 2 (SlatterFan)
13) C minor, Op. 48 No. 1 (Kreisler)
14) F-sharp minor, Op. 48 No. 2 (BruceD)
15) F minor, Op. 55 No. 1 (Damon)
16) E-flat major, Op. 55 No. 2 (jeffreyjones)
17) B major, Op. 62 No. 1 (Emanuel Ravelli)
18) E major, Op. 62 No. 2 (dire tonic)
19) E minor, Op. 72 No. 1 (PikaPianist)
20) C-sharp minor, P1/16 (doctor S)
21) C minor, P2/8 (TwoSnowflakes)


Waltzes:

1) E-flat major, Op. 18 (Carey)
2) A-flat major, Op. 34 No. 1 (hreichgott)
3) A minor, Op. 34 No. 2 (Pathbreaker)
4) F major, Op. 34 No. 3 (ansatz737)
5) A-flat major, Op. 42 (Carey)
6) D-flat major, Op. 64 No. 1 (AZNpiano)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 64 No. 2 (Sammae)
8) A-flat major, Op. 64 No. 3 (timmyab)
9) A-flat major, Op. 69 No. 1 (BruceD)
10) B minor, Op. 69 No. 2 (Sam S)
11) G-flat major, Op. 70 No. 1 (Tim Adrianson)
12) F minor, Op. 70 No. 2 (Ganddalf)
13) D-flat major, Op. 70 No. 3 (musica71)
14) E minor, KK IVa/15 (dannylux)
15) E major, KK IVa/12 (Tim Adrianson)
16) A-flat major, KK IVa/13 (Cinnamonbear)
17) E-flat major, KK IVa/14 (Cinnamonbear)
18) E-flat major, KK IVb/10 (maxmila)
19) A minor, KK IVb/11 (FSO)
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#2216599 - 01/18/14 09:53 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Depending on how much time before the recital, I could take the Op. 9 no.2 Nocturne.
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#2216779 - 01/18/14 04:49 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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#2216832 - 01/18/14 06:45 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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March 22.


ok that works. Put me down for it.
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#2216843 - 01/18/14 06:54 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: ChopinLives81]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
March 22.


ok that works. Put me down for it.

I could, or you could. wink Everyone is editing the list themselves now via copy/paste. Make sure you edit the most recent list.

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#2216861 - 01/18/14 07:43 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Pavel.K]
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Updated list, I will be taking Op.9 no.2

Nocturnes:

1) B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1 (doctor S)
2) E-flat major, Op. 9 No. 2 (Chopinlives81)
3) B major, Op. 9 No. 3 (ansatz737)
4) F major, Op. 15 No. 1 (Roland The Beagle)
5) F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 (DameMyra)
6) G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 (FarmGirl)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 27 No. 1 (Morodiene)
8) D-flat major, Op. 27 No. 2 (chopinoholic)
9) B major, Op. 32 No. 1 (Brad Hoehne)
10) A-flat major, Op. 32 No. 2 (dynamobt)
11) G minor, Op. 37 No. 1 (ElaineAllegro)
12) G major, Op. 37 No. 2 (SlatterFan)
13) C minor, Op. 48 No. 1 (Kreisler)
14) F-sharp minor, Op. 48 No. 2 (BruceD)
15) F minor, Op. 55 No. 1 (Damon)
16) E-flat major, Op. 55 No. 2 (jeffreyjones)
17) B major, Op. 62 No. 1 (Emanuel Ravelli)
18) E major, Op. 62 No. 2 (dire tonic)
19) E minor, Op. 72 No. 1 (PikaPianist)
20) C-sharp minor, P1/16 (doctor S)
21) C minor, P2/8 (TwoSnowflakes)


Waltzes:

1) E-flat major, Op. 18 (Carey)
2) A-flat major, Op. 34 No. 1 (hreichgott)
3) A minor, Op. 34 No. 2 (Pathbreaker)
4) F major, Op. 34 No. 3 (ansatz737)
5) A-flat major, Op. 42 (Carey)
6) D-flat major, Op. 64 No. 1 (AZNpiano)
7) C-sharp minor, Op. 64 No. 2 (Sammae)
8) A-flat major, Op. 64 No. 3 (timmyab)
9) A-flat major, Op. 69 No. 1 (BruceD)
10) B minor, Op. 69 No. 2 (Sam S)
11) G-flat major, Op. 70 No. 1 (Tim Adrianson)
12) F minor, Op. 70 No. 2 (Ganddalf)
13) D-flat major, Op. 70 No. 3 (musica71)
14) E minor, KK IVa/15 (dannylux)
15) E major, KK IVa/12 (Tim Adrianson)
16) A-flat major, KK IVa/13 (Cinnamonbear)
17) E-flat major, KK IVa/14 (Cinnamonbear)
18) E-flat major, KK IVb/10 (maxmila)
19) A minor, KK IVb/11 (FSO)
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#2216982 - 01/19/14 03:32 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: ChopinLives81]
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Thank you very much, ChopinLives81. You are a rescuer!
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#2225293 - 02/03/14 04:53 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I missed this. Is it okay for me to sign up for the Nocturne 9/2 with other variants?

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#2227282 - 02/07/14 02:07 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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This Nocturne Op. 15 No. 1 is proving to be quite challenging but it's soooooo beautiful....
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#2227412 - 02/07/14 11:48 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Roland The Beagle]
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This Nocturne Op. 15 No. 1 is proving to be quite challenging but it's soooooo beautiful....

ALL of the Nocturnes are challenging - as well as the waltzes !!! grin
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#2227460 - 02/07/14 01:21 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Op. 15 nos. 1 and 2 are both very hard nocturnes.

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#2227658 - 02/07/14 08:33 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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It's mainly these guys that are the chief issue:

http://i.imgur.com/O7v3C6f.png

I have some experience with double sixths from working on the Czerny Toccata, but these ones are even faster! Czerny's Toccata to tempo is 120bpm with sixteenth note sixths and thirds, in other words 8 sixths/thirds a second. This piece ends up being 8.4 sixths a second!

Don't think I'll be playing this tempo for awhile, but thankfully the slow section is so beautiful and the piece is so well-crafted as a whole that I won't have to for it to sound lovely.
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#2232346 - 02/16/14 12:07 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Roland The Beagle]
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Can someone please explain

-How do we submit recordings for this recital (not that it's ready yet!)?
-How soon can we submit recordings (not that it's ready!!)?

Just trying to psych myself to finish something, anything, ahead of time. Thank you...

(I hope it's not info someone already posted in an obvious place and I missed it.)

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#2232351 - 02/16/14 12:21 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I don't even remember when it's due. I should get back to work on mine. whistle

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#2232362 - 02/16/14 12:58 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: ElaineAllegro]
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Originally Posted By: ElaineAllegro
Can someone please explain

-How do we submit recordings for this recital (not that it's ready yet!)?
-How soon can we submit recordings (not that it's ready!!)?

Just trying to psych myself to finish something, anything, ahead of time. Thank you...

(I hope it's not info someone already posted in an obvious place and I missed it.)

You can submit recordings to me at any time.

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#2232364 - 02/16/14 12:59 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Pathbreaker]
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I don't even remember when it's due. I should get back to work on mine. whistle

March 22nd.

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#2233400 - 02/17/14 08:13 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I've noticed some imprecise notation in mine. Trying to figure out what this represents rhythmically:

http://i.imgur.com/PwgunVi.png

The piece is in 3/4 time, so the sixteenths are all beamed sextuplets. The issue is that the upper voice does not seem to agree with the lower voice in how the notes line up. If it is also in a six time, then it should be written as shown in the Sibelius clip right below in order for the notes to line up. If it isn't, then the notes would not line up this way and this is very confusing for the performer - instead they would align as shown two clips below the example.

Finally the last example is another confusing example of note value and alignment. It's hardly the biggest deal in the universe and the piece is stunning either way, but I would like a lesson on confusing Chopin notation if anyone can help smile
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#2233401 - 02/17/14 08:20 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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What format should the submissions be? mp3, YouTube video, box file? I've not seen anything said about format.
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#2233406 - 02/17/14 08:32 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Roland The Beagle]
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Originally Posted By: Roland The Beagle
I've noticed some imprecise notation in mine. Trying to figure out what this represents rhythmically:

http://i.imgur.com/PwgunVi.png

The piece is in 3/4 time, so the sixteenths are all beamed sextuplets. The issue is that the upper voice does not seem to agree with the lower voice in how the notes line up. If it is also in a six time, then it should be written as shown in the Sibelius clip right below in order for the notes to line up. If it isn't, then the notes would not line up this way and this is very confusing for the performer - instead they would align as shown two clips below the example.

Finally the last example is another confusing example of note value and alignment. It's hardly the biggest deal in the universe and the piece is stunning either way, but I would like a lesson on confusing Chopin notation if anyone can help smile


Ok I'm looking at the score now and...oh, that's kinda hairy I'm just not going to be able to help you there ha

Honestly my version is much more ambiguous than what you've got there.

EDIT: Ok wait, I think you've confused me here. Have you changed the notation in your image there? Now that I look at my version more closely in the section you cited, I don't see anything wrong there. I mean yes, the note values are changed in the Con fuoco without so much as a heads up but why not just assume that the upper voice shares the same value as your semiquavers? It conveniently lines up so that you don't even have to figure it out, right? The simplest answer is better here. At least, I would just go with that. Not that I'm known for lots of due diligence.

What I see here is that your dotted quaver counts for five semiquavers. Maybe it should only count for 4.5 but let's just round up. It might be imprecise but it's written in such a way that the direction is clear. Unless I'm completely wrong and there's a good chance on that too.


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#2233419 - 02/17/14 09:16 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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#2233420 - 02/17/14 09:17 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Pathbreaker]
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Originally Posted By: Pathbreaker

What I see here is that your dotted quaver counts for five semiquavers. Maybe it should only count for 4.5 but let's just round up. It might be imprecise but it's written in such a way that the direction is clear. Unless I'm completely wrong and there's a good chance on that too.


I think you are probably right, from a logical and simple point of view. In fact, this is what I naturally did and played as I was learning it, until I looked at it closely at some point and went "wait a sec...". Of course, I want to know the Truth (capital T) because I'm a meticulous perfectionist! Also, to know what to expect in future nocturnes.
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#2233438 - 02/17/14 09:59 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Roland The Beagle]
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Originally Posted By: Roland The Beagle
Originally Posted By: Pathbreaker

What I see here is that your dotted quaver counts for five semiquavers. Maybe it should only count for 4.5 but let's just round up. It might be imprecise but it's written in such a way that the direction is clear. Unless I'm completely wrong and there's a good chance on that too.


I think you are probably right, from a logical and simple point of view. In fact, this is what I naturally did and played as I was learning it, until I looked at it closely at some point and went "wait a sec...". Of course, I want to know the Truth (capital T) because I'm a meticulous perfectionist! Also, to know what to expect in future nocturnes.

I'm not very familiar with this one, but it seems like you have a slightly different version than the Paderewski edition. You might want to check that one out. I didn't see any 4/3 rhythms or anything that wasn't perfectly vertically aligned. The offset note, for one, seems oddly placed, though I suppose as you rall., you could probably get away with it?
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#2233503 - 02/18/14 02:16 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Derulux]
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Originally Posted By: Derulux

I'm not very familiar with this one, but it seems like you have a slightly different version than the Paderewski edition. You might want to check that one out. I didn't see any 4/3 rhythms or anything that wasn't perfectly vertically aligned. The offset note, for one, seems oddly placed, though I suppose as you rall., you could probably get away with it?


I checked out some other editions, and the two I had are indeed screwy. It's supposed to be like the first Sibelius clip. The Sibelius with the 4/3 is not truly poly-rhythmic, Sibelius just has a glitch in displaying it where it doesn't align. A dotted note is a division of 3 so it lines up just fine as a dotted quaver and a semiquaver over 6 sextuplet semiquavers. However, the second beat of that other example still doesn't make sense. There are two quavers in a beat and therefore the second quaver should align with the 4th sextuplet, not the 5th. Or, if it's 3 quavers as a triplet, then there is a missing quaver in the middle. It's screwy in every other edition on IMSLP. (I don't usually call stuff quavers and such, but I thought I'd learn these other names for funsies.)

I may have been utterly spoiled with my sheet music so far and these kinds of problems are more common than I've thus far experienced. I'm guessing most likely that it is three quavers in a triplet and the middle is left out because the phrase ended on the last one and the space is assumed to be a lift without a rest actually placed.

Oh, I thought I'd also throw in that these ornament patters on beat 3 and 1 make no sense:

http://i.imgur.com/AcTHl0h.png

I mean, they make musical sense, and I can play them, but they don't add up. There can be no eighth rest there, three triplet sixteenths and an eighth fills up a quarter. If they were all twice as fast, it would work, but then it would be three triplet 32nds and a sixteenth.

Yea, I'm guessing that I am new to romantic literature and this is pretty common, and no one cares how you play it.



Edited by Roland The Beagle (02/18/14 02:24 AM)
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#2233509 - 02/18/14 02:44 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Rubinstein plays it vertically aligned, and the Paderewski edition I looked at has them all vertically aligned, so I would probably recommend doing that. However, feel free to "screw around" with it as much as you want -- I'm not one to adhere strictly to anything! grin

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Oh, I thought I'd also throw in that these ornament patters on beat 3 and 1 make no sense:

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I mean, they make musical sense, and I can play them, but they don't add up. There can be no eighth rest there, three triplet sixteenths and an eighth fills up a quarter. If they were all twice as fast, it would work, but then it would be three triplet 32nds and a sixteenth.

Yea, I'm guessing that I am new to romantic literature and this is pretty common, and no one cares how you play it.

Not if you consider that what you are looking at are "triplets". Look at the LH: the 8th notes are in "assumed" triplets. Most-likely (and from what I see there), the RH is, too. So, those 16th note triplets are actually covering the 1st of 3 8th note triplet beats. The 2nd triplet would then be the G (or F in the second measure). And the 3rd triplet would be the 8th rest. wink
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#2233901 - 02/18/14 07:02 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Triplets within triplets. LOL, that's just fantastic.
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#2237504 - 02/25/14 03:39 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Just sent my YouTube link to Joel. I've played the Nocturne better. I just don't think I'm going to get a better recording of it. Having the one fairly decent recording just kind of took the wind right out of me. Everything since has been worse. So, for good or bad, my submission is in.
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#2237532 - 02/25/14 04:43 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: dynamobt]
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Just sent my YouTube link to Joel. I've played the Nocturne better. I just don't think I'm going to get a better recording of it. Having the one fairly decent recording just kind of took the wind right out of me. Everything since has been worse. So, for good or bad, my submission is in.

And thank God the rest of us still have another three weeks !! laugh
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#2237534 - 02/25/14 04:46 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Wow is it just three weeks? I keep thinking of it as one month, like the longest month ever. I did some work on it today and hopefully I don't end up submitting at the last minute!

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#2237541 - 02/25/14 05:02 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Last minute was what I was wanting to avoid. As usual, I had "technical difficulties' uploading my video to my computer. Windows Video Maker got caught in a loop. I had to start completely over. Only it was no big deal because I wasn't in a hurry. Otherwise, I'd have been in a panic. I use these technologies so infrequently. It's a huge relief to have this done. Well, I don't have to tell that to any of you. My sister is also visiting the week it is due. I didn't want to be working on my computer making the video let alone trying to still get a recording while she is here. So, I'm pretty happy right now.


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#2237568 - 02/25/14 05:55 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Good job on getting it done ahead of schedule. I'm sure that must feel really good. I gave myself a running start for the same reason but I took a little detour before the finish line.

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#2237687 - 02/25/14 10:07 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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The Nocturne I picked is one that I played for a recital many years ago and now that I'm a much better pianist I thought I'd give it another go and see what I can do. I retain my memory pretty well, so now I'm just working on some slow, deliberate practice for accuracy and speed to see how far I can get with it. I'll have tons of time next week while I'm visiting my parents, so I plan to step things up a bit then. We'll see where it ends up when it's time to record. wink
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#2237695 - 02/25/14 10:22 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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You guys, I'm having such a great time playing a waltz for something that is not a ballet class smile it's nice to have much more rhythmic freedom.
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#2237710 - 02/25/14 10:56 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I know what you mean. I love the a minor waltz so much but I know I would not have bothered to learn it if not for this.

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#2237773 - 02/26/14 02:20 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I have a burning question. My piece is Op 15 #3 has many pedal marks showing that I should lift them on the third beat (see below). When exactly do you lift the pedal within the third beat? Should I lift it before striking the 3rd beat? Right after I hit the 3rd beat? Could it be right before I go to the next measure? I am kind of using a mixed approach. For example, the accented B flat in the first measure seems to sound better if I clear the pedal before I play the note. But the second measure E, I am clearing the pedal after I play the note to try to make the melody line sing fluently without chopping them.. Am I doing it wrong? My friend thinks that I should clear the pedal completely on the 3rd beat as it's written. What do you think? My teacher seems to think my approach is ok but she told me that I have to be careful with the pedaling.. Any thought and advice?

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#2237850 - 02/26/14 09:01 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: FarmGirl]
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I have a burning question. My piece is Op 15 #3 has many pedal marks showing that I should lift them on the third beat (see below). When exactly do you lift the pedal within the third beat? Should I lift it before striking the 3rd beat? Right after I hit the 3rd beat? Could it be right before I go to the next measure? I am kind of using a mixed approach. For example, the accented B flat in the first measure seems to sound better if I clear the pedal before I play the note. But the second measure E, I am clearing the pedal after I play the note to try to make the melody line sing fluently without chopping them.. Am I doing it wrong? My friend thinks that I should clear the pedal completely on the 3rd beat as it's written. What do you think? My teacher seems to think my approach is ok but she told me that I have to be careful with the pedaling.. Any thought and advice?

http://www.waltercosand.com/CosandScores/Composers%20A-D/Chopin,%20Frederic/Find_by_Opus_Number/op15_3_Nocturnes.pdf


I would make sure everything connects with what I play on beat 3, but not hold the pedal through beat 3. That means slightly carrying over so everything is legato up to beat 3, but not have a space happening before beat 3. I'm saying this having not heard the options though.

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#2237893 - 02/26/14 10:45 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Morodiene]
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Originally Posted By: FarmGirl
I have a burning question. My piece is Op 15 #3 has many pedal marks showing that I should lift them on the third beat (see below). When exactly do you lift the pedal within the third beat? Should I lift it before striking the 3rd beat? Right after I hit the 3rd beat? Could it be right before I go to the next measure? I am kind of using a mixed approach. For example, the accented B flat in the first measure seems to sound better if I clear the pedal before I play the note. But the second measure E, I am clearing the pedal after I play the note to try to make the melody line sing fluently without chopping them.. Am I doing it wrong? My friend thinks that I should clear the pedal completely on the 3rd beat as it's written. What do you think? My teacher seems to think my approach is ok but she told me that I have to be careful with the pedaling.. Any thought and advice?

http://www.waltercosand.com/CosandScores/Composers%20A-D/Chopin,%20Frederic/Find_by_Opus_Number/op15_3_Nocturnes.pdf


I would make sure everything connects with what I play on beat 3, but not hold the pedal through beat 3. That means slightly carrying over so everything is legato up to beat 3, but not have a space happening before beat 3. I'm saying this having not heard the options though.

What sounds best to you? What do they do on professional recordings?


My teacher calls this "waltz pedaling" (don't know if that name is universal or not). This is the first time I have learned to do it - it took me awhile to get the hang of it. (I'm doing 69/2)

I don't do it for the whole waltz - just the A section. I think it does provide more forward energy.

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#2237970 - 02/26/14 01:26 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Thank you for the explanation. it makes sense now.
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#2241295 - 03/04/14 02:00 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Remember everyone, the deadline is March 22nd. Don't forget to PM me your recordings entitled "Submission". Thanks and good luck to the remaining.

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#2241525 - 03/04/14 09:39 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Oh I love this Nocturne! I'm happy that I'm making very good progress with it, I was worried at first it'd be a bit too taxing but it's going pretty well! I'm going to have to submit it early (in the next week or two) because I'll be singing on tour during Spring Break.
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#2247321 - 03/16/14 05:48 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Roland The Beagle]
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#2247390 - 03/16/14 10:53 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I'll do my best to record Op. 55/2 today. If I don't get a good take I'll try again Thursday.

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#2247398 - 03/16/14 11:06 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: jeffreyjones]
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I'll do my best to record Op. 55/2 today. If I don't get a good take I'll try again Thursday.


in the past two weeks I have no less than about 46 takes. I already submitted a recording, but I would like to submit a better one.. However, it's difficult to get a recording without a glaring mistake or a satisfactory feel. Let's not forget interruptions or loud street noises...
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#2247574 - 03/16/14 05:20 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I'm not quite at the point where I'm completely ready to record. It's almost there though. I had learned this many years ago and so I'm trying to make some improvements now that my technique is a bit better. I may try a new recording 'technique' for lack of a better term, and see if anyone notices smile.
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#2247639 - 03/16/14 08:29 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I got a recording with which I am pleased musically wise, but there are some mistakes in it. Particularly on a prominent spot, namely the start of a new sentence...

Will try a couple more takes. If it will not be better I'll be submitting this one.
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#2247643 - 03/16/14 08:38 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I recorded one yesterday but I hit a couple of wrong notes and hesitated at one spot. It also has a back ground noise by my husband dropping something. I have to travel for business on Thursday night to UK on business. So if I cannot get a better one, i have to submit what I have. I cannot practice today since I have to prepare for four day meetings in UK. The only other opportunity to record is Wednesday. Hope I can make better recording then.
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#2247704 - 03/16/14 11:03 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I submitted what I have for now since I don't know if I can get to record it again on wednesday.
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#2247749 - 03/17/14 02:47 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: FarmGirl]
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I submitted what I have for now since I don't know if I can get to record it again on wednesday.


Good luck, I know all too well how difficult it is to get a good recording. I think I got my best one this morning, but it too me all day to finally get the recording from my digital to my PCM recorder because I literally couldn't get 4 straight minutes without a car horn, people screaming, scooters passing by etc...
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#2248169 - 03/18/14 12:30 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: ChopinLives81]
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I'll do my best to record Op. 55/2 today. If I don't get a good take I'll try again Thursday.


in the past two weeks I have no less than about 46 takes. I already submitted a recording, but I would like to submit a better one.. However, it's difficult to get a recording without a glaring mistake or a satisfactory feel. Let's not forget interruptions or loud street noises...


I took 3 complete takes, and I'm not happy with any of them. I usually tend to play it pretty briskly, which is counter to the "Lento sostenuto" tempo indication, but I tried playing it lento and it just seemed too dreary. I can't make my interpretation work without the movement it seems.

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#2248186 - 03/18/14 01:58 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Finished a decent recording of my Nocturne. Only a very minor slip up on one of those massive grace note leaps in the middle section. Pretty proud of it. I've been working on it pretty consistently for months now as a major project.

I'm pretty much a Chopin newbie so I had to learn polyrhythmic ornaments, basic pedaling, fastish double sixths, grace note leaps and all sorts of stuff I've never done before for the first time, and in a very challenging piece to boot. Phew!

I had to get it done early because my singing group will be on tour from the 18th (tomorrow) to 24th in Hawaii where I will have no way to record it. I think for me an even better recording is possible, with a faster middle section and zero mistakes. Ah well!
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#2248198 - 03/18/14 03:07 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Roland The Beagle]
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Finished a decent recording of my Nocturne. Only a very minor slip up on one of those massive grace note leaps in the middle section. Pretty proud of it. I've been working on it pretty consistently for months now as a major project.

I'm pretty much a Chopin newbie so I had to learn polyrhythmic ornaments, basic pedaling, fastish double sixths, grace note leaps and all sorts of stuff I've never done before for the first time, and in a very challenging piece to boot. Phew!

I had to get it done early because my singing group will be on tour from the 18th (tomorrow) to 24th in Hawaii where I will have no way to record it. I think for me an even better recording is possible, with a faster middle section and zero mistakes. Ah well!


+1 for two counts.

First, I am a Chopin newbie as well. When I was growing up, we were not allowed play such nice music as chopin but have to spend lots of hours for Bach, Clementi, Koulau (not sure about spelling) etc. Czerney collection of 30 studies etc. Lots of sonatines. Did a little bit of Beethoven and Mozart sonata.. I did not last more than 8 years. Had i continued, I would have started learning romantic / impressionist pieces within the next couple of years.

I also have to leave for UK on business this week. So I had to submit the one with a mistake. Did not have time to figure out how to attach some picture other than my playing but ran out of time.
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#2248202 - 03/18/14 03:43 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I made a recording of my small waltz a couple of weeks ago. I listened to it again today and found that there were lots of small flaws, and since there still are a few days before the deadline I think I'll try to record once more. At least I have the old recording as backup.

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#2248250 - 03/18/14 08:17 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I will start making recordings today, I think, but I may have to piece together a couple of different takes for the sake of time. I've made a lot of progress, but it's still not enough to my liking. I also have one nasty page turn to contend with and I haven't been trying to memorize, so I'll have to get creative with that too. smile
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#2248408 - 03/18/14 02:19 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Morodiene]
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I will start making recordings today, I think, but I may have to piece together a couple of different takes for the sake of time. I've made a lot of progress, but it's still not enough to my liking. I also have one nasty page turn to contend with and I haven't been trying to memorize, so I'll have to get creative with that too. smile


Morodiene :

Have you thought of downloading a page of your Nocturne from IMSLP that you can place beside your copy to avoid the awkward page turn? That way, you may be able to play through part of the copy page until you come to a spot where you can conveniently turn the page on your own volume.

I've been working on "your" Nocturne and two others for an up-coming recital and I, too, have an awkward page turn in two of them. Fortunately, I have three different editions on the Nocturnes and one can be used as I describe above to get me through the page turns.

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#2248450 - 03/18/14 03:54 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: FarmGirl]
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When I was growing up, we were not allowed play such nice music as chopin but have to spend lots of hours for Bach, Clementi, Koulau.

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#2248454 - 03/18/14 03:58 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: BruceD]
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I will start making recordings today, I think, but I may have to piece together a couple of different takes for the sake of time. I've made a lot of progress, but it's still not enough to my liking. I also have one nasty page turn to contend with and I haven't been trying to memorize, so I'll have to get creative with that too. smile


Morodiene :

Have you thought of downloading a page of your Nocturne from IMSLP that you can place beside your copy to avoid the awkward page turn? That way, you may be able to play through part of the copy page until you come to a spot where you can conveniently turn the page on your own volume.

I've been working on "your" Nocturne and two others for an up-coming recital and I, too, have an awkward page turn in two of them. Fortunately, I have three different editions on the Nocturnes and one can be used as I describe above to get me through the page turns.

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This works! I just need to extend my music stand a bit with some cardboard. wink
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#2248628 - 03/18/14 09:44 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Guys, I'm totally editing my performance for pageturns, and also choosing sections from among the two best takes. Full disclosure here.
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I would love to know how to do editing. I don't have time now but I am depressed every time I see my rather plumb figure. It was not like this before. I need to learn to add a picture of dog or something instead of myself. On top of my mistakes my husband dropped something in the background.
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#2248686 - 03/19/14 12:32 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I've been procrastinating by obsessing over some Mozart. I feel like the work I've done with this Mozart sonata is somehow feeding into my playing of the Chopin waltz. Maybe just an excuse smile
I might try a take tomorrow if I can get past this obsession.

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#2248747 - 03/19/14 06:44 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: hreichgott]
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Guys, I'm totally editing my performance for pageturns, and also choosing sections from among the two best takes. Full disclosure here.


..same here. I memorised so no problem with pages but had a couple of stops and starts.

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#2248776 - 03/19/14 08:59 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: FarmGirl]
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Originally Posted By: dire tonic
Originally Posted By: hreichgott
Guys, I'm totally editing my performance for pageturns, and also choosing sections from among the two best takes. Full disclosure here.


..same here. I memorised so no problem with pages but had a couple of stops and starts.


Not me, I memorize everything and do a bunch of takes until I get a good one, I prefer it that way.

Originally Posted By: FarmGirl
I would love to know how to do editing. I don't have time now but I am depressed every time I see my rather plumb figure. It was not like this before. I need to learn to add a picture of dog or something instead of myself. On top of my mistakes my husband dropped something in the background.


Farmgirl, if this is such an issue, why don't you just record yourself like I do. Position the camera to show just your arms and hands.

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#2248813 - 03/19/14 10:34 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: ChopinLives81]
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Originally Posted By: ChopinLives81
Originally Posted By: dire tonic
Originally Posted By: hreichgott
Guys, I'm totally editing my performance for pageturns, and also choosing sections from among the two best takes. Full disclosure here.


..same here. I memorised so no problem with pages but had a couple of stops and starts.


Not me, I memorize everything and do a bunch of takes until I get a good one, I prefer it that way.

Originally Posted By: FarmGirl
I would love to know how to do editing. I don't have time now but I am depressed every time I see my rather plumb figure. It was not like this before. I need to learn to add a picture of dog or something instead of myself. On top of my mistakes my husband dropped something in the background.


Farmgirl, if this is such an issue, why don't you just record yourself like I do. Position the camera to show just your arms and hands.



That angle is worse for me. I have fat arms. I would like to provide 100% coverage. Last time I saw a function of making the picture darker. But I could not find it any more in youtube setting. Anyway I will learn the skill by next time.
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#2248823 - 03/19/14 10:59 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: FarmGirl]
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Originally Posted By: FarmGirl

That angle is worse for me. I have fat arms. I would like to provide 100% coverage. Last time I saw a function of making the picture darker. But I could not find it any more in youtube setting. Anyway I will learn the skill by next time.


There's just no pleasing you is there...lol

I think you should just point the camera towards a frame on the wall of a pretty picture while you record yourself. Then, like you said, get some basic editing skills down for next time.

However, I have to say, and I think I speak for everyone here, we're not concerned with how you look, just that you're brave enough to present a performance of beautiful music so we can all enjoy. Please consider just being yourself, people tend to see what they want to see, but rarely ever look for what's best.
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#2248889 - 03/19/14 01:39 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Only 13/40 submissions so far. There are less than 3 days left.

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#2248897 - 03/19/14 01:51 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Only 13/40 submissions so far. There are less than 3 days left.

You should probably expect the majority of submissions to be submitted at the 11th hour. I'm sure everyone will understand if it takes you a couple of days to organize material prior to posting the full recital on line. grin
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#2248911 - 03/19/14 02:29 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Carey,

Happy birthday!

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Everyone else,

The submissions are due at midnight on the 22nd, but I won't post anything until probably around noon. So if you must sneak your submission in late, you have 12 hours to do so.

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#2248913 - 03/19/14 02:32 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: carey]
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Originally Posted By: carey
Originally Posted By: JoelW
Only 13/40 submissions so far. There are less than 3 days left.

You should probably expect the majority of submissions to be submitted at the 11th hour. I'm sure everyone will understand if it takes you a couple of days to organize material prior to posting the full recital on line. grin


Nothing like a deadline to provide inspiration laugh

I'm actually taking a little break from recording, got a decent take but there's one section that is being slightly problematic. >_<
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#2248965 - 03/19/14 04:20 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Carey,

Happy birthday!

Thanks Joel !! I can't think of a better way to spend my B-Day than struggling to record these waltzes. Well - on second thought...... wink
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#2249021 - 03/19/14 06:36 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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Screw it. New recordings are not working at all tonight. So I'm going to submit the recording with the mistakes. Hope you all like it nevertheless.
Good luck everyone!


Edited by chopinoholic (03/19/14 06:38 PM)
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#2249078 - 03/19/14 09:09 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: chopinoholic]
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Screw it. New recordings are not working at all tonight. So I'm going to submit the recording with the mistakes. Hope you all like it nevertheless.
Good luck everyone!


Usually when I get to this stage and then record the next day, that's when I get my better recordings because I no longer care. smile
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#2249085 - 03/19/14 09:30 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: Morodiene]
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Originally Posted By: chopinoholic
Screw it. New recordings are not working at all tonight. So I'm going to submit the recording with the mistakes. Hope you all like it nevertheless.
Good luck everyone!


Usually when I get to this stage and then record the next day, that's when I get my better recordings because I no longer care. smile

I've finally managed to crank out a recording of the Opus 18 Waltz without any horrendous mistakes. No such luck thus far with the Opus 42. Tomorrow morning is my last opportunity to record. Fingers crossed. Of course, I didn't realize how difficult these two pieces were when I selected them..... ha
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#2249086 - 03/19/14 09:30 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: carey]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
Carey,

Happy birthday!

Thanks Joel !! I can't think of a better way to spend my B-Day than struggling to record these waltzes. Well - on second thought...... wink


Happy birthday!
It's a wonderful way to spend a birthday hahaha. I don't think I have time to record again tonight. I have to pack now. I'm leaving for Europe on business tomorrow. I'm eating sushi now since I will be in the land of mayonnaise sandwiches and fish'n chips. I don't like them very much. Sorry. But I like the country though.
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#2249159 - 03/20/14 12:42 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: FarmGirl]
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Carey,

Happy birthday!

Thanks Joel !! I can't think of a better way to spend my B-Day than struggling to record these waltzes. Well - on second thought...... wink


Happy birthday!
It's a wonderful way to spend a birthday hahaha. I don't think I have time to record again tonight. I have to pack now. I'm leaving for Europe on business tomorrow. I'm eating sushi now since I will be in the land of mayonnaise sandwiches and fish'n chips. I don't like them very much. Sorry. But I like the country though.

Have a productive, fun and SAFE trip !!!!!! thumb
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#2249332 - 03/20/14 07:39 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: carey]
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Originally Posted By: carey
Originally Posted By: Morodiene
Originally Posted By: chopinoholic
Screw it. New recordings are not working at all tonight. So I'm going to submit the recording with the mistakes. Hope you all like it nevertheless.
Good luck everyone!


Usually when I get to this stage and then record the next day, that's when I get my better recordings because I no longer care. smile

I've finally managed to crank out a recording of the Opus 18 Waltz without any horrendous mistakes. No such luck thus far with the Opus 42. Tomorrow morning is my last opportunity to record. Fingers crossed. Of course, I didn't realize how difficult these two pieces were when I selected them..... ha


My last opportunity to record was yesterday evening. I'm satisfied though with the recording I have, so it's not the end of the world laugh .
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#2249410 - 03/20/14 10:46 AM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: chopinoholic]
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My last opportunity to record was yesterday evening. I'm satisfied though with the recording I have, so it's not the end of the world laugh .

That's good !!!! thumb
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#2249466 - 03/20/14 12:56 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: carey]
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Sending it in momentarily, before I lose my nerve.

Synopsis: Adult re-starter past few years. Learned this last year for recital with new teacher. Resuscitated it and began recording 3 weeks ago; Zoom died mid-recording. Got new Zoom. 20 takes past few days, misc. memory lapses, finally decided I needed to use the music. Opened Henle to pages 1-2, Schirmer to pages 3-4, got confused by slight differences and started penciling changes into Schirmer. Slept! Two takes this morning, one with music, one without (which is the one I chose). Not my best, not as daring or soaring as I would like, my teacher would cringe at all the "typos," and the bass is still too loud.
Resolutions:
Really learn to use Zoom, Audacity, and other tech stuff.
Lighten up LH or move Zoom to better position or both.
Return ASAP back to Adult Beginners Forum.

Comments on technique or technical welcome, if gentle or via PM.

P.S. Thank you so much to JoelW for organizing this and for tech support, and to everyone participating for sharing your journeys. I am looking forward to some inspiring listening!
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#2249499 - 03/20/14 02:34 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: ElaineAllegro]
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Originally Posted By: ElaineAllegro
Sending it in momentarily, before I lose my nerve.

Synopsis: Adult re-starter past few years. Learned this last year for recital with new teacher. Resuscitated it and began recording 3 weeks ago; Zoom died mid-recording. Got new Zoom. 20 takes past few days, misc. memory lapses, finally decided I needed to use the music. Opened Henle to pages 1-2, Schirmer to pages 3-4, got confused by slight differences and started penciling changes into Schirmer. Slept! Two takes this morning, one with music, one without (which is the one I chose). Not my best, not as daring or soaring as I would like, my teacher would cringe at all the "typos," and the bass is still too loud.
Resolutions:
Really learn to use Zoom, Audacity, and other tech stuff.
Lighten up LH or move Zoom to better position or both.
Return ASAP back to Adult Beginners Forum.

Comments on technique or technical welcome, if gentle or via PM.

P.S. Thank you so much to JoelW for organizing this and for tech support, and to everyone participating for sharing your journeys. I am looking forward to some inspiring listening!



Sounds just as bad as me with all the different takes grin
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#2249516 - 03/20/14 03:04 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I just assumed that this recital being in the Pianist Corner that we were opening ourselves to constructive criticism. I'm hoping that the better pianists remember that joy and participation should be encouraged at many levels of ability. My feeling is that if anyone could have produced better recording, they would have. So, take what is submitted as their best and comment accordingly.

I too should learn to use Audacity much better than I'm capable of now. All I do is clip off the dead sound at the beginning and end of the recording. I know there is a heck of a lot more Audacity can do to the sound sample. I just need to experiment with something not as important as a recital submission to learn about what the program can do.

I'm looking forward to the start of the recital. I won't be able to listen and comment until after my sister leaves from visiting this week. But, I can't wait until I can listen. I'm so looking forward to hearing some Chopin!
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#2249538 - 03/20/14 03:43 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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I submitted the 'best sounding, with mistakes, but nevertheless satisfactory' recording. But When I click on the link that I copied from soundcloud, and click on the play button, I don't hear anything :-/. The playing stops at 13 sec (I see that in the progress thing) and I cannot play it anymore. confused
I use Safari and after trying it in Chrome I could play it. So it must be something with Safari...
Oh well.

Joel, you got a pm. I hope it is fine like this.

I'm ready for (gentle) criticism. wink

And about audacity, I also use it for the deletion of the silent beginning and ending, but also use the option 'amplify'. I think that really helps.


Edited by chopinoholic (03/20/14 03:44 PM)
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#2249539 - 03/20/14 03:51 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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It works for me.

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#2249541 - 03/20/14 03:53 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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My cat invaded shortly after the penultimate note of my best take. Are uploads on Soundcloud (or any other site) amendable or are the warts/meows on the web forever?

Also, does Polyphonist cut a break for new-onset arthritis, fire, hail, lawyers, anything? I fear a lashing...
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#2249542 - 03/20/14 03:53 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: JoelW]
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It works for me.


Great. Thanks for confirmation!
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#2249543 - 03/20/14 03:55 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: doctor S]
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My cat invaded shortly after the penultimate note of my best take. Are uploads on Soundcloud (or any other site) amendable or are the warts/meows on the web forever?

Also, does Polyphonist cut a break for new-onset arthritis, fire, hail, lawyers, anything? I fear a lashing...


I don't think Polyphonist really comments on performances anymore from what I can tell. But even so, don't worry about it. No one is here to criticize. This is just for fun, like the previous recital. If anything, you will probably get a lot of good comments so don't fret. smile

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#2249593 - 03/20/14 05:31 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: dynamobt]
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[...]I'm hoping that the better pianists remember that joy and participation should be encouraged at many levels of ability. My feeling is that if anyone could have produced better recording, they would have. So, take what is submitted as their best and comment accordingly.
[...]


This is a good observation. I don't think that any of us need to be told about a wrong note or a missed note; we are well aware of our limitations and the fact that most of us do our recordings without editing. We all know the near-impossibility of getting an error-free recording at one take, whether it's take No. 1 or take No. 43!

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#2249622 - 03/20/14 06:22 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: BruceD]
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I'm just thankful for the opportunity to participate. Plenty of wrong notes in my performance. b minor is an awkward key for me for some reason. And I can hear the interpretation that I want but it never comes through in the recording - I'm sure everyone has had that problem.

I'm playing it for my teacher's real live recital tomorrow night. It's more stressful than I like to be the 60 year-old restarter in a recital full of fearless kids.

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#2249628 - 03/20/14 06:40 PM Re: Forum recital: Chopin nocturnes and waltzes [Re: BruceD]
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Originally Posted By: dynamobt
[...]I'm hoping that the better pianists remember that joy and participation should be encouraged at many levels of ability. My feeling is that if anyone could have produced better recording, they would have. So, take what is submitted as their best and comment accordingly.
[...]


This is a good observation. I don't think that any of us need to be told about a wrong note or a missed note; we are well aware of our limitations and the fact that most of us do our recordings without editing. We all know the near-impossibility of getting an error-free recording at one take, whether it's take No. 1 or take No. 43!

Regards,
I totally agree (no, I'm not componist1)!

We'll see what happens when I try to record again later this evening. I'm remaining hopeful that I'll not mess up too much, but mistakes just make it sound "rustic", right? laugh
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