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#2191118 - 12/01/13 09:24 PM I never composed before...
Rusty Fortysome Offline
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Registered: 07/25/11
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Until I got my hands on computer stuff today and just tinkled around with sounds and samples and everything. Sure, it's not poetic, however it is surprisingly simple to orchestrate and create if you know simple theory…



I'll have to practice and refine myself.
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#2195612 - 12/10/13 03:43 PM Re: I never composed before... [Re: Rusty Fortysome]
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Registered: 08/16/13
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Wow. The image really isn't appropriate for Piano World, which I'm pretty sure considers itself a "family friendly" website, so that is one consideration.

Anyways this is really bizarre. Not sure if this is a joke...

I will assume this is serious, if I have been trolled ("trolls! trolls!") so be it.

You might be interested in Dan Deacon and The Books. Both explore electronic music and take it in an interesting direction. The audio samples you use are very jarring, even somewhat disturbing, especially in context of the contrasting "fun" even "childlike" musical background. Dan Deacon is perhaps the master of juxtaposing "innocent" sounding harmonic content alongside more unpredictable effects.

http://youtu.be/vFlBJ1xZK10

Notice how Deacon incorporates mostly simple chords and jarring distorted effects similar to your music? However, the music is here much easier to digest because the music shifts much more slowly, and drone tones (notes sustained for an extended period of time, also called pedal points or pedal tones) keep the wackiness "grounded". The overall effect is sometimes hypnotic.

The Books incorporates spoken audio samples from various sources as a part of their music.

http://youtu.be/8Cx10MrMYB4

Notice how here the various audio samples complement the music? Not only do the spoken parts contribute to the "story" and mood of the piece, but often the cadence of the speech complements the underlying rhythm.

Moral of this story being I think you could benefit by considering your spacing, ways to keep the listener "grounded" among the insanity of the music, and how your audio samples can fit in with the music so they don't feel merely pasted over but just as much a part of the music as the instrumentation.

Also for the record The Books do have at least one "disturbing" piece I will not link to here (definitely not family friendly) but you can easily find the video on YouTube. You might find it a source of inspiration.

One more thing... I realize these musicians may already be influences of yours but I just had too much fun writing this post to bother asking first.

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#2196946 - 12/13/13 10:00 AM Re: I never composed before... [Re: Rusty Fortysome]
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composers don't need a sampling library, and just because one tinkers with one, doesn't make them composers.

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#2197956 - 12/15/13 01:38 PM Re: I never composed before... [Re: compianist1]
stalefleas Offline
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Originally Posted By: compianist1
composers don't need a sampling library, and just because one tinkers with one, doesn't make them composers.

Experts don't need to act irate, and just because one is irate, does not make one an expert.

ps you could look up definitions to "composer" and "compose" then consider the validity of your allegation.

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#2204523 - 12/29/13 01:57 PM Re: I never composed before... [Re: Rusty Fortysome]
peterws Offline
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Registered: 07/21/12
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Loc: Northern England.
Rusty Fortysome First time? Fantastic! Sooo much fun! Keep `em comin . . . .what an imagination . . . . grin

Don`t let nobody put you off, this is seriously good. You can and probably will go far . . the mind could boggle depending on how far . . . .

Oh, and forget about refinement.. This the antithesis of refinement. That`s why it`s so good.


Edited by peterws (12/29/13 02:21 PM)
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