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#2201118 - 12/21/13 07:14 PM Piano Sonata No. 1 | Original Composition
mpmusic Offline
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Hello, after 5 months of work finally my first piano sonata is finished! All 3 movements. This video is just the first movement but the second and third will be released soon, before the new year I expect. Sheet music will be available after the release of the third movement.



Thank you,
Miguel
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#2201780 - 12/23/13 09:32 AM Re: Piano Sonata No. 1 | Original Composition [Re: mpmusic]
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This piece has me wondering about a few things. First it's slow so will your rhythmic model be 2nd movement a bit faster and the very quick for the finale (like Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata)?

This movement is also very static it doesn't really go anywhere, the minor textural change at the end is long overdue. So what have you done to make the subsequent movements make dramatic sense? I guess what I'm really asking about is what your overall concept for this sonata is?

I understand that since the Moonlight Sonata of Beethoven atypical structures have been acceptable. Having said that first time composers usually try to grasp the concept of a typical sonata before breaking the mold. A typical sonata implies contrast between two (or more) theme groups in the first movement. The first movement is usually in sonata form. The second movement is typically the slow lyrical movement and here ABA form is common. Followed by a finale that is fast and fun and very often a rondo. This tried and true scheme has worked well for centuries.

Going back to your piece your first movement offers no contrast and the overall pace is slow. Hence my curiosity about how you've managed the dramatic scheme. In the first movement the only thing that hints of drama are your left hand tremolos and you dispense with them at the end of the movement. Think about the Beethoven Moonlight, the first movement is full of angst with lots of subtle dissonance. The second movement is short and sweet and the third movement is a fast and furious. As a dramatic scheme it makes sense because the unease of the first movement draws you in. Your movement got me to write all of this so that's something, but only because I can't figure out where you're going with it. So I'm asking.

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#2201855 - 12/23/13 11:46 AM Re: Piano Sonata No. 1 | Original Composition [Re: Steve Chandler]
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Thank you for commenting. Well, the second movement is slower than this but have a faster section, the structure is like ABABA, not exactly but the main structure is like that. The third movement has more sections, is faster in general and technically much harder and its the one I think is most interesting and fun to play. The biggest also, 9 minutes.

I don't really know how to answer your questions; I didnít thought about the concept or anything else while writing.

Well but the second movement will be online tomorrow 23h UTC and the third 31 the same hour . And 1 January the sheet music will be online as well.
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#2201988 - 12/23/13 05:51 PM Re: Piano Sonata No. 1 | Original Composition [Re: mpmusic]
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Miguel,

I remember being young and at that time composing a piece was just about figuring out what comes next. As I got older I thought the process would become easier, it hasn't. Sure coming up with ideas and discarding the bad ones is easier, but the process of honing the music to perfection is only harder as my standards have gotten higher. Because it's harder I need a strong reason to commit the time and effort, that means developing an expressive concept that will govern how the piece evolves and develops. Every piece I work on or compose now has a reason for being. I have no lack of ideas and concepts, only time and brain power. The important thing is this mind set allows me to compose what I believe to be better music.

I didn't really expect you to have answers to the questions I asked earlier. I wanted to give you food for thought. It's absolutely fine to compose outside of musical tradition, but when you call a piece a "Sonata" there are expectations on the part of some. I explained my thinking in my earlier post and I'm looking forward to hearing the rest of the piece.

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#2202010 - 12/23/13 07:13 PM Re: Piano Sonata No. 1 | Original Composition [Re: mpmusic]
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Steve brought up pretty much everything I was going to say. Keep working at it, and thank you for sharing. Keep us posted on the other two movements.

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#2202515 - 12/24/13 06:52 PM Re: Piano Sonata No. 1 | Original Composition [Re: mpmusic]
mpmusic Offline
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This is the second movement of my sonata smile
Happy Christmas to everyone!

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#2204866 - 12/30/13 07:11 AM Re: Piano Sonata No. 1 | Original Composition [Re: mpmusic]
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Miguel,

Thanks for the nice music!

Do I get it rigght that you are a fan of Chopin?

Best

S.

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#2205706 - 12/31/13 01:24 PM Re: Piano Sonata No. 1 | Original Composition [Re: Stefan_578]
mpmusic Offline
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Originally Posted By: Stefan_578
Miguel,

Thanks for the nice music!

Do I get it rigght that you are a fan of Chopin?

Best

S.


Yes, I'm a big fan of Chopin smile

I will post the 3rd movement of my sonata in a few hours smile
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#2205717 - 12/31/13 01:41 PM Re: Piano Sonata No. 1 | Original Composition [Re: mpmusic]
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Me too ) Happy NY 2014

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#2205867 - 12/31/13 06:25 PM Re: Piano Sonata No. 1 | Original Composition [Re: mpmusic]
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Here is the third movement!

Happy New Year!

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#2206324 - 01/01/14 12:26 PM Re: Piano Sonata No. 1 | Original Composition [Re: mpmusic]
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The sheet music for the sonata is now online here:

http://www.miguelmotapinto.com/sheets


And here is a playlist with the three movements:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVleQxi9lTU&list=PLtbTOCD88YtlHDnGcZCkHod_ZLlkbvg3C
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