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#2210728 - 01/08/14 04:33 AM Yamaha P155 vs FP-50/80 for classical music
lumpyd Offline
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Registered: 01/04/14
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I know there are many threads like this sitting around this forum, but after reading many of them, I still hadn't came to a conclusion. frown

I'm looking for a DP intent mostly for classical music playing, meaning that my main concern is how well it is imitating an acoustic piano.

I've considered FP-50 but I've read many criticism regards the Ivory-G feel.
Also, the FP-80 feels overkill for my needs (so many features I don't need).

Can you recommend me either Yamaha or Roland pianos that might fit my needs? (Kawai's models have limited availability in my area).

My budget is limited at the FP-80 price (but cheaper DPs are welcomed :D)

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#2210729 - 01/08/14 04:43 AM Re: Yamaha P155 vs FP-50/80 for classical music [Re: lumpyd]
maurus Offline
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Well - reading brings you only so far. You have to sit down at these instruments and decide for yourself, I'm afraid.
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#2210733 - 01/08/14 04:48 AM Re: Yamaha P155 vs FP-50/80 for classical music [Re: lumpyd]
lumpyd Offline
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I know.

But since I haven't played for more than 5 years shocked (long story).
I'm afraid I won't be able to tell which one is better right away, so I'm trying to at least narrow down my search for selected models.

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#2210738 - 01/08/14 05:12 AM Re: Yamaha P155 vs FP-50/80 for classical music [Re: lumpyd]
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Still...

The ones you mention are all suitable, if you are interested in stage type pianos. I'd add the Kawai ES7 to the list. Yamaha has announced a new P255 replacing the P155 but it is (as yet) not too clear whether there are significant improvements - on the other hand there may then be good deals on the P155. Whether you like the action and sound of these instruments depends a lot on your preferences so we can't really help. As long as you stay with the big brands you can't go wrong really.

While I am not a fan of the Roland instruments (but mind you, this is subjective and thus does not tell you much) the FP80's action is clearly a step above that of the FP50, so for serious classical playing I'd probably go for the FP80 among these two.

Of course if you are interested in console type pianos there are more choices (and different prices).

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#2210748 - 01/08/14 06:13 AM Re: Yamaha P155 vs FP-50/80 for classical music [Re: lumpyd]
lumpyd Offline
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Since english is not my native language, isn't console types pianos usually refers to acoustic pianos?

If not, what models of console types DPs are recommended?

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#2210777 - 01/08/14 08:10 AM Re: Yamaha P155 vs FP-50/80 for classical music [Re: lumpyd]
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In the digital piano world, you have stage or slab pianos which have no cabinet and are good for travel, or consoles which have an attached stand to mimic an acoustic piano look.

As for which one to get, generally the higher price point you look at, the better the action and sound. You also will get a lot more features that you probably don't want, but that is generally how it goes.

However, in your price point or just a bit higher, you could get a Yamaha CP4 or the Kawai VPC1 which have a very nice piano feel to them. I know you didn't want Kawai, but it's definitely worth investigating if you can.
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#2210837 - 01/08/14 10:29 AM Re: Yamaha P155 vs FP-50/80 for classical music [Re: Morodiene]
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There is also the Roland FP-7F.

It is not in production now -- it was replaced by the FP-80. But it's a really good-sounding DP. You might find a dealer who has one, or find one second-hand.

. Charles

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#2210860 - 01/08/14 10:59 AM Re: Yamaha P155 vs FP-50/80 for classical music [Re: Morodiene]
dmd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Morodiene
you could get a Yamaha CP4 or the Kawai VPC1 which have a very nice piano feel to them.


Of course, it should be mentioned ... the VFPC1 does not make a sound. Seems relevant.
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#2210932 - 01/08/14 01:21 PM Re: Yamaha P155 vs FP-50/80 for classical music [Re: lumpyd]
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Re: P-155/FP-80

Great question. The reason I bought the cheapest and most reliable dp, the P-105, is that I couldn't get a decent answer to your question.

Its really peculiar that so many dp buyers are obsessed with expensive action and sound when in fact the modern classical school (eg. Chopin) is defined by pedal operation. Have you ever seen a dp review where the pedals are given scrutiny as to correct function? Try to find a person who uses a software piano and claims its far "superior" and then ask him if the pedals work properly?

Very very few teachers are competent in pedaling. So what makes a good digital for classical? I don't think anyone knows.

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#2211031 - 01/08/14 04:46 PM Re: Yamaha P155 vs FP-50/80 for classical music [Re: StarvingLion]
carkar Offline
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Registered: 12/19/13
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Originally Posted By: StarvingLion
Re: P-155/FP-80

Great question. The reason I bought the cheapest and most reliable dp, the P-105, is that I couldn't get a decent answer to your question.

Its really peculiar that so many dp buyers are obsessed with expensive action and sound when in fact the modern classical school (eg. Chopin) is defined by pedal operation. Have you ever seen a dp review where the pedals are given scrutiny as to correct function? Try to find a person who uses a software piano and claims its far "superior" and then ask him if the pedals work properly?

Very very few teachers are competent in pedaling. So what makes a good digital for classical? I don't think anyone knows.


This is why the Privia PX-5S is unsuitable for me--no half-pedaling. I can "understand" the importance of key action in musicians that play acoustic (so as to accomodate); yet key action varies so widely in acoustic pianos that the notion of comparison between the two is rather irrelevant. I have a Vose and Sons baby grand that feels similar to the Kawai ES100 I currently own; whereas, my old teacher has a Stienway that feels NOTHING like my Vose and Sons, hence nothing like the ES100. On the other hand, deviations in pedal functionality between acoustic pianos is, in my experience, relatively slight.

Regarding key action, my answer would be to base the decision on how well you play a given model. Compare it to nothing, as that particular model will never be what you are comparing it to--face it. Still, who is to say that the action of a DP MUST be the same as an Acoustic? Perhaps, for you, the DP offers even more expressive capability--who knows other than you? So long as the piano offers you the fundamentals, differences in weighted keys is as common within acoustics as they are between acoustics and DPs--consider it an expansion of the spectrum. In the end it's about enjoying the creation of music.

...then again, I'm only a hobbyist :p
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