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#2211279 - 01/09/14 04:34 AM What is this piece? (Once again)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYaPF5wZNEo#t=3638

Note: I had already posted this piece in another thread and had no luck identifying it. It was (erroneously?) included in a compilation of Bach music back then. (It sure sounds baroquey.) The few comments it got was that it was not a significant piece of repertoire and not that good of a piece either. However I keep stumbling upon it in various places and it kinda grew on me even more. In the compilation I posted it is listed as "anonymous sonata" (does not sound to me as it fits the sonata structure). Even if it is anonymous I would like to know how it is referred to so that I can search about it. (Also tried playing the intro in musipedia keyboard search but no luck there either)

Thanks.


Edited by sydnal (01/09/14 04:35 AM)
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#2211285 - 01/09/14 04:55 AM Re: What is this piece? (Once again) [Re: sydnal]
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This can't be Bach. Sounds like some kind of cheap imitation.

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#2211294 - 01/09/14 05:53 AM Re: What is this piece? (Once again) [Re: sydnal]
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@Ganddalf

I see, I think it would be known and easily identified if it was a Bach piece anyway.

Btw., I would like to also ask a question, since your answer resembles the ones I got when I asked this before. (bad piece, insignificant, imitation etc.) First of all I can not say I have excellent classical music/piano music taste, I am rather new to the whole stuff and I am listening to compilations etc. to broaden the pieces I know.

The question: What is it about this piece that people generally seem to have a negative opinion on it? What am I missing, because I seem to enjoy it?
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#2211304 - 01/09/14 06:32 AM Re: What is this piece? (Once again) [Re: sydnal]
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Well, the music on the link makes use of many of the basic elements that Bach used. But it appears more repetitive than most of Bach's works. I also notice that the composer uses pretty massive harmonics to bring forth a relatively simple "message". I can't find many of the melodic lines in the middle voices that are so characteristic for Bach here.

Nothing wrong with enjoying this music. I wouldn't say it is a "bad" piece, but it is not a masterpiece. I recommend that you spend some time listening to Bach music. Not necessarily only piano pieces, but all kinds of music written by this great composer.

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#2211310 - 01/09/14 07:09 AM Re: What is this piece? (Once again) [Re: sydnal]
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I listened to a couple of minutes, starting where the link pointed to. Clearly derivative from the finale of Bach's D Minor keyboard concerto.

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#2211326 - 01/09/14 07:56 AM Re: What is this piece? (Once again) [Re: sydnal]
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This is probably a very overdone transcription of something, perhaps Vivaldi or similar. As sandalholme says, it bears resemblance to the finale of the Bach D minor keyboard concerto, although far less skillfully written, of course.
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#2211342 - 01/09/14 08:25 AM Re: What is this piece? (Once again) [Re: sydnal]
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Here's Perahia playing the real thing smile
(the movement you're interested in starts at 13:18)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jovQnR2Tk-I


Edited by hreichgott (01/09/14 08:26 AM)
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#2211351 - 01/09/14 08:51 AM Re: What is this piece? (Once again) [Re: sydnal]
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Thanks everybody so far, although I see some resemblance with the Concerto I think it's entirely a different piece of music so my search continues.
Click to reveal..
I like it better than the Bach concerto, couldn't gather the courage to post this in plain text laugh
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#2211417 - 01/09/14 11:04 AM Re: What is this piece? (Once again) [Re: sydnal]
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Originally Posted By: sydnal
I like it better than the Bach concerto.

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#2211451 - 01/09/14 12:04 PM Re: What is this piece? (Once again) [Re: sydnal]
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It's like the 3rd Brandenburg concerto in a minor key. Probably some neo baroque thing written for tv

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