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#2211295 - 01/09/14 05:54 AM 1830's Pleyel Pianino, fully restored, Chopin
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kux7OQ-Q6u0

this is an example of the kind of vertical piano Chopin would have had at his disposal. The entire piano was restored with new strings, hammers, leather etc.

hammers are covered with deer leather, which is what was used on the vertical and square models when new

smile


Edited by acortot (01/09/14 05:55 AM)
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An Article on the unusual makeup of original Pleyel hammers, during Chopin's lifetime:

http://acortot.blogspot.it/2012/07/pleyel-hammers-in-chopin-era-i-martelli.html

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#2211360 - 01/09/14 09:03 AM Re: 1830's Pleyel Pianino, fully restored, Chopin [Re: acortot]
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It sounds fantastic, and it is played very well in my humble opinion as well.


Edited by wimpiano (01/09/14 09:03 AM)
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#2212179 - 01/10/14 01:32 PM Re: 1830's Pleyel Pianino, fully restored, Chopin [Re: acortot]
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It belonged to Napoleon's sister!
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rhythm must be inborn - Alfred Cortot

An Article on the unusual makeup of original Pleyel hammers, during Chopin's lifetime:

http://acortot.blogspot.it/2012/07/pleyel-hammers-in-chopin-era-i-martelli.html

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#2212283 - 01/10/14 04:13 PM Re: 1830's Pleyel Pianino, fully restored, Chopin [Re: acortot]
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Do you know if this instrument has a true una corda for the soft pedal?
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#2212431 - 01/10/14 08:01 PM Re: 1830's Pleyel Pianino, fully restored, Chopin [Re: wimpiano]
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Originally Posted By: wimpiano
It sounds fantastic, and it is played very well in my humble opinion as well.


Wouldn't hurt for them to tune it a bit better before posting it on youtube though! I agree that it's a charming sound. It reminds me of the 1880's Broadwood I learned to play piano on.

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#2213057 - 01/11/14 07:46 PM Re: 1830's Pleyel Pianino, fully restored, Chopin [Re: acortot]
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To me, the characteristic sound of the Playel is a clear, smooth tone when the note is initially played;

as the note is sustained, the tone modifies, and has more color, less of a pure sine wave.

Also, the notes died away more quickly, they didn't sustain as long as on modern pianos.

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#2213964 - 01/13/14 12:08 PM Re: 1830's Pleyel Pianino, fully restored, Chopin [Re: Chris Leslie]
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Originally Posted By: Chris Leslie
Do you know if this instrument has a true una corda for the soft pedal?


Yes, this piano has two strings per note and pushing down the left pedal makes it play only one string.

Sorry about the tuning, the piano had brand-new strings and they were still stretching.
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rhythm must be inborn - Alfred Cortot

An Article on the unusual makeup of original Pleyel hammers, during Chopin's lifetime:

http://acortot.blogspot.it/2012/07/pleyel-hammers-in-chopin-era-i-martelli.html

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#2214153 - 01/13/14 07:01 PM Re: 1830's Pleyel Pianino, fully restored, Chopin [Re: acortot]
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This is a charmingly beautiful piano!
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#2214410 - 01/14/14 08:24 AM Re: 1830's Pleyel Pianino, fully restored, Chopin [Re: acortot]
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Thanks!

The key to get a good sound with these old pianos, apart from totally restoring the action, is to know just how much tension to apply to the outer leather, which is very soft.

Most restorers overdo it and you get a pingy, dry and brittle sound which really has nothing to do with the music IMO.
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rhythm must be inborn - Alfred Cortot

An Article on the unusual makeup of original Pleyel hammers, during Chopin's lifetime:

http://acortot.blogspot.it/2012/07/pleyel-hammers-in-chopin-era-i-martelli.html

Max DiMario

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#2217019 - 01/19/14 06:53 AM Re: 1830's Pleyel Pianino, fully restored, Chopin [Re: acortot]
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Incredible job! As always I think that your and Olivier work is sadly not enough recongnized!!!
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