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#2209046 - 01/05/14 11:25 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
I'm a bit lost. What does Bluesy mean?


Rather on the dark side. Depressed with hope for that which is better. Faith, Love, Hope, which cannot be seen. Putting ones heart in greater things while this life's experiences are awful. Always resulting in a joy that this life cannot destroy.

EDIT: Only those who know the Blues can relate. If you haven't lived the Blues. You cannot know.


Edited by rnaple (01/05/14 11:27 PM)
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#2209098 - 01/06/14 02:27 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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So you mean something like nostalgia?
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#2209622 - 01/06/14 06:07 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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That might work for what I want in a melody.
I really love meaningful melodies.
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#2209738 - 01/06/14 07:56 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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just started listening to chopin, best [censored] ever. love it. new obsession.
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#2209740 - 01/06/14 07:57 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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Have you listened all the way through yet? laugh
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#2209743 - 01/06/14 07:58 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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no way.... i dont know how to just have his music going thru all his works or i would totally do it.... i've been listening to the pandora station "chopin radio" and its phenomenal.
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#2209746 - 01/06/14 08:04 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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Start at Opus 1, and listen straight through to the posthumous works. laugh

To get you started, Opus 1, Opus 2, Opus 3, Opus 4, Opus 5...
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#2209770 - 01/06/14 08:31 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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thank you so much!!!!
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#2209776 - 01/06/14 08:40 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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And it just gets better and better, the farther you get into his oeuvre.
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#2209862 - 01/06/14 10:42 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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absolutely STUNNING!!!! i can't get over it.
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#2209870 - 01/06/14 10:54 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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Are you finished with the first five opuses?
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#2209897 - 01/06/14 11:30 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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i am.
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#2209935 - 01/07/14 01:01 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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#2209950 - 01/07/14 02:04 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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And another obsession is created! Sweet06, welcome to the pearl of piano music!
Just lile Polyphonist said, it gets better and better. smile
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#2211414 - 01/09/14 10:56 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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What a magnificent way to start my new year. We have another Chopin addict to add to the millions that we now number. Welcome to you, Sweet06! And a very special thank you to you, Polyphonist, for making this so. Sweet06...how I envy you for what astounding joy you have waiting for you. Once listening to Chopin, there is no other.

I am now watching, streaming through my Roku and on YouTube, Evengy Kissin playing Chopin's concerto No. 1 in E minor...on my huge TV with the huge speakers. I am right up close, watching every finger movement and I am in heaven. If you are able to get YouTube on your TV, try getting Chopin this way. It's better than sitting in a concert hall and certainly a lot cheaper.

My best wishes to all of you and health, happiness and more and more Chopin in your lives.
Kathleen
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#2212452 - 01/10/14 08:52 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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Ok.... I finally tracked it down...
Chopin Prelude No. 4 in E minor op 28

That is the Blues.

Other Chopin songs that have the same heart as this?
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#2212512 - 01/10/14 11:47 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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Songs??? Chopin did write songs, but that prelude is not one of them.

As for pieces with a similar mood, start with the B minor prelude, and then perhaps some of the minor-key nocturnes and mazurkas would satisfy you.
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#2212666 - 01/11/14 06:56 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Songs??? Chopin did write songs, but that prelude is not one of them.


I have to ask that you bear with me in terms for music. I don't have the education to know what the definition of a prelude, nocturne, or mazurka necessarily is. I may ask my piano teacher for a reference.

I could look at minor-key stuff. That isn't necessarily the Blues. Have always loved the "minor Blues" as they put it. I guess I'll just have to look and decide for myself.
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#2212692 - 01/11/14 08:51 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: rnaple]
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Ron

As poly said, try op.28-6 B minor prelude.

Also:

Op.9-1 nocturne in b flat minor
Op. Posth. Nocturne in c sharp minor

Enjoy. The two preludes mentioned are approachable for early intermediate players, although even greats play them.

Enjoy.


Edited by JimF (01/11/14 08:52 AM)
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#2212728 - 01/11/14 09:50 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: rnaple]
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Originally Posted By: rnaple
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Songs??? Chopin did write songs, but that prelude is not one of them.


I have to ask that you bear with me in terms for music.


It's OK. Instrumentalists in general seem to have a pet peeve about non vocal pieces being referred to as songs and prefer to reserve that term for pieces with words. Chopin did write some literal songs, not many and not his best, but they do have words, in Polish.
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#2212812 - 01/11/14 12:34 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: -Frycek]
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Originally Posted By: rnaple
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Songs??? Chopin did write songs, but that prelude is not one of them.


I have to ask that you bear with me in terms for music.


It's OK. Instrumentalists in general seem to have a pet peeve about non vocal pieces being referred to as songs and prefer to reserve that term for pieces with words.

The terminology is simply incorrect. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines a song as "a short composition with words that are sung." A composition without words is correctly referred to as a piece.
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#2212939 - 01/11/14 04:13 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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Simply trying to avoid "unprovoked rudeness" - - - -
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#2212948 - 01/11/14 04:22 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: -Frycek]
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Quote:
Simply trying to avoid "unprovoked rudeness"


I usually refer to what I'm studying as a "piece". I'm glad no one has called the police. HAHAHAHAHA Seriously, is this really that parochial? Meaning narrow in view not parish speak. grin
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#2212958 - 01/11/14 04:35 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: Ragdoll]
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Quote:
Simply trying to avoid "unprovoked rudeness"


I usually refer to what I'm studying as a "piece". I'm glad no one has called the police. HAHAHAHAHA Seriously, is this really that parochial? Meaning narrow in view not parish speak. grin


I don't understand what you're being sarcastic about. Maybe you should read the last few entries. The quote is from Polyphonist in another thread. I was simply trying to explain to rnaple why he'd just been stomped on, without doing any more stomping.
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#2212979 - 01/11/14 05:05 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: -Frycek]
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I don't understand what you're being sarcastic about. Maybe you should read the last few entries.


I wasn't being sarcastic or I would have put a smirk instead of a smiley. I'm sorry my post appeared under yours instead of polys, I simply put it at the bottom of the thread. Get over yourself smirk
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#2212988 - 01/11/14 05:34 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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You deliberately quoted me in your post. It didn't simply appear under it.
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#2213456 - 01/12/14 03:25 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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I was so amazed and delighted that I actually was able to sign in. At first I thought I had somehow got on the Pianist Corner blush Uh oh! Are the forum police lurking?

We've come so far and with hardly a hurt feeling or bruised ego. No other forum can compare to our level of dignity and forbearance. We're a "class act" and all because of the man who inspired this thread.

That's all I have to write.

Best,
Kathleen
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#2213696 - 01/12/14 10:18 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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This is the best piano music i've EVER heard. thank you for the links, they were much enjoyed. the nocturnes he has... wow.. just wow...
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#2229413 - 02/11/14 07:13 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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Has anyone a copy of the manuscript of the Fantaisie Impromptu? I've got Hinson's printed version - it has pedal markings. Are they in the original? Thanks folks.

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#2229594 - 02/11/14 12:33 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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There are sites with Chopin manuscripts, but I'm not sure if the Fantaisie-Impromptu is around. Worth googling. Piano Street has a extensive presentation of it with comparisons of the different versions, so that might be useful. Check back a page or two on this thread, because I posted a link to it.

This week, I think today in fact, marks 21 years of intense involvement with Chopin. Happy Anniversary, Fryc.

I've had a new set of overwhelming responsibilities to deal with since late December, so haven't been around here much, but hope to be able to visit more often when this is over.

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