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The terminology is simply incorrect. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines a song as "a short composition with words that are sung." A composition without words is correctly referred to as a piece.

Simply trying to avoid "unprovoked rudeness" - - - -

I usually refer to what I'm studying as a "piece". I'm glad no one has called the police. HAHAHAHAHA Seriously, is this really that parochial? Meaning narrow in view not parish speak.

I don't understand what you're being sarcastic about. Maybe you should read the last few entries. The quote is from Polyphonist in another thread. I was simply trying to explain to rnaple why he'd just been stomped on, without doing any more stomping.

I wasn't being sarcastic or I would have put a smirk instead of a smiley. I'm sorry my post appeared under yours instead of polys, I simply put it at the bottom of the thread. Get over yourself

You deliberately quoted me in your post. It didn't simply appear under it.

I was so amazed and delighted that I actually was able to sign in. At first I thought I had somehow got on the Pianist Corner Uh oh! Are the forum police lurking?

We've come so far and with hardly a hurt feeling or bruised ego. No other forum can compare to our level of dignity and forbearance. We're a "class act" and all because of the man who inspired this thread.

That's all I have to write.

Best,
Kathleen

This is the best piano music i've EVER heard. thank you for the links, they were much enjoyed. the nocturnes he has... wow.. just wow...

Has anyone a copy of the manuscript of the Fantaisie Impromptu? I've got Hinson's printed version - it has pedal markings. Are they in the original? Thanks folks.

There are sites with Chopin manuscripts, but I'm not sure if the Fantaisie-Impromptu is around. Worth googling. Piano Street has a extensive presentation of it with comparisons of the different versions, so that might be useful. Check back a page or two on this thread, because I posted a link to it.

This week, I think today in fact, marks 21 years of intense involvement with Chopin. Happy Anniversary, Fryc.

I've had a new set of overwhelming responsibilities to deal with since late December, so haven't been around here much, but hope to be able to visit more often when this is over.

Elene

Thanks for that. I found it, though not a facsimile. There are no pedal markings.

I am not normally a big fan of YouTube, but what an experience I just had. Spent the last hour listening to Joseph Hoffman play. Some Rach, some Beethoven and an absolutely perfect 48.1. Never, ever heard it played so beautifully. His was a tragic story, as so many of them aren't.

Wow, after maybe 4 months on and off, I played Opus 27 no1 all the way through. Two sticking points- you know the ones.... Maybe I will get it done by Xmas! It's my 'challenge piece' but I love it and won't give up!

Happy not-Chopin's-birthday!

27/1 has plenty of sticking points if you ask me... good luck!

Elene

I have a question about Op 10 No 3. I cannot play it, but it is in the same book as the prelude I am working on so looked at it. In this etude does the right hand actually also play the top part of the bass clef line? I assume that is what the Etude does, teaches you to play melody and accompaniment with one hand and in this case melody on the weaker fingers. I searched for an answer but didn't really find one. Am I correct?

Yes.

Find more of this guy's sophisticated musical humor (the most appropriate gift one could give Chopin) at

don't shoot the pianist

Elene

And today was his name-day. I don't remember how to wish someone a happy name-day in Polish.

Elene

I don't speak Polish, but I tried Google Translation...
PW doesn't seem to accept those Polish characters, but you can try Google yourself and confirm (or not)...

Ah, here we are, in Yahoo Answers. But this is strange-- it used to be quite possible to write proper Polish or other languages with various diacritical marks here, and now, as CA said, they don't come out. At any rate, the suggestions were like this:


Wszystkiego najlepszego z okazji imienin!

or

Szczesliwy dzien imie!

or if you have lots of good wishes, one person suggested


Z okazji twoich imienin skladam najlepsze zyczenia: badz zawsze zdrowy, ciesz sie zyciem i bliskimi, niech ludzie sie do ciebie usmiechaja, i szczescie i los ci zawsze sluzy.


So here's wishing Fryderyk and all of you happiness, smiles and luck today. (Health is a less appropriate wish for him.) He doesn't live in linear time anyway so perhaps he will forgive me for being a day late.

Here is a fun page all about name-days and how to find yours. I don't care for St. Helen so I ignore mine.

http://www.happynameday.info

Elene