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Originally Posted by carey
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I am sure there are other Bach's who wrote suites. There must be someone out there with a calliope who could play PDQ Bach's Toot Suite.

There is also Suite Lorraine, and Suite Georgia Brown!


and don't forget the "Ain't She Suite" !!!!!!! grin



And "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes"

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only two of the six movements in the Tombeau are based on Baroque dance forms - and one is based on an Italian folk dance. The remaining movements (Prelude, Fugue, Toccata) harken back to the Baroque period - but aren't dance forms.

Menuets, Rigaudons and Forlanes routinely appear in French Baroque suites. You're right about the other movements.


Are not Menuets, Rigaudons and Forlanes dance forms? Are you saying, "If it's a dance form, even if it's Italian, it's o.k."? (I think that's what I heard you say...)

Yes! I also support the Sarabande as part of a baroque suite, even though it is from Latin America.


It was a court dance for a couple of centuries before the time of Bach, so there is a long precedent for it. Interesting how a dance that was seen as indecent and vulgar became adopted by the upper crust.
The Sarabande was the only dance for a solo dancer. Learned this in some terrific master classes by Magadalena Baczweska.

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Originally Posted by Morodiene
I am looking for a Baroque suite to do, but I'm not sure where to look. I'd love to do some Couperin, especially since some are playing Ravel's Tombeau it might be cool to hear how Ravel tried to reflect Couperin in this suite. Any recommendations?


Try these
http://imslp.org/wiki/Pi%C3%A8ces_de_Clavecin_(Couperin,_Fran%C3%A7ois)
It is a large work made up of 27 ordres. Each ordre is a set of dances arranged in a (longish) suite.


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Originally Posted by hreichgott
Originally Posted by Morodiene
I am looking for a Baroque suite to do, but I'm not sure where to look. I'd love to do some Couperin, especially since some are playing Ravel's Tombeau it might be cool to hear how Ravel tried to reflect Couperin in this suite. Any recommendations?


Try these
http://imslp.org/wiki/Pi%C3%A8ces_de_Clavecin_(Couperin,_Fran%C3%A7ois)
It is a large work made up of 27 ordres. Each ordre is a set of dances arranged in a (longish) suite.
I was wondering about that. I do know Les barricades mysterieuses which appears to be part of the Sixieme ordre, which doesn't look outrageously long. It would be interesting to do this, I think. Is that acceptable? If so, please officially sign me up, Gandalf.


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Originally Posted by carey


Great stuff folks - thanks for the titles.


There are also a couple of "Modern Suites" by Edward MacDowell. IMSLP has them, listed under "First" and "Second".

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There is one argument AGAINST being too sloppy with the definition of a suite when arranging this recital. Already now people have signed up for around 20 suites and if the average duration is 15 minutes we already have five hours music to listen to.

One way to handle this is to "release" the music in batches - perhaps some 1 - 2 hours of music each day. I even think it will make sense to make individual response threads for each batch. And maybe the batches could be composed in a way where different styles are represented in each of them.

Whatever we do I think we have to set an upper limit to the total amount of music for this recital. 10 hours perhaps... I even assume that when this recital is completed a new similar one will be running.


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Updated list:

J.S.Bach

French Suite no.2 - FarmGirl
French Suite No.4 – 1RC
Partita no.1 - Carey
Partita no.3 - Ganddalf
Partita no.6 - Kuanpiano

G.F. Händel

Keyboard suite no. 13 - Cinnamonbear
Keyboard suite no. 15 - Cinnamonbear
Keyboard suite no. 16 - Cinnamonbear

E.Grieg

Peer Gynt Suite no.1 - Damon
Peer Gynt Suite no.2 - SlatterFan
From Holberg's time - jeffreyjones

MacDowell

Woodland Sketches - Sammae

Carl Nielsen

Suite for piano - D.S.F.

C.Debussy

Suite Bergamasque - woodog
Suite pour le Piano - neuralfirings

M.Ravel

Tombeau de Couperin - hreichgott + ScriabinAddict

B.Bartok

Suite Op.14 – Kreisler
Six Romanian Folk Dances - Carey

Deodat de Severac

En Languedoc: Suite pour piano - Tim Adrianson

Alberto Ginastera

Suite de Danzas Criollas - Orange Soda King

Feinberg

Suite 1 - albumblatter

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Originally Posted by Ganddalf
There is one argument AGAINST being too sloppy with the definition of a suite when arranging this recital. Already now people have signed up for around 20 suites and if the average duration is 15 minutes we already have five hours music to listen to.

One way to handle this is to "release" the music in batches - perhaps some 1 - 2 hours of music each day. I even think it will make sense to make individual response threads for each batch. And maybe the batches could be composed in a way where different styles are represented in each of them.

Whatever we do I think we have to set an upper limit to the total amount of music for this recital. 10 hours perhaps... I even assume that when this recital is completed a new similar one will be running.


Yes, I've been noticing this issue too, and I seem to remember that this concern was raised when the subject of a recital of longer pieces was first mentioned.

I notice that ScriabinAddict and I are the only ones sharing a suite. I would like to recommend this option to others. Not that I think anyone is not capable of playing their whole suite smile (ScriabinAddict and I are actually both learning all of Tombeau)

I remember that when we were close to the Mazurka recital many people felt stressed out about getting their selections learned and recorded in time. These pieces are much longer and many on the list are much more difficult. If more people shared suites, it would be less stressful for performers and also less of a marathon for the audience.


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I'm sharing my Suite with my friend Phil who is an excellent player. Just FYI this is not the Phil you know here. My friend needs to join the forum. We divided up the piece as follows:

Allemande - FarmGirl
Courante - Phil M
Sarabande - Phil M
Air - FarmGirl
Menuet - FarmGirl
Gigue - Phil M

As you can see basically I asked him to do difficult ones as Sarabande and especially Gigue. I played through the whole Suite and realized that I had trouble sight reading Gigue. Sarabande is short in this Suite but I know enough to know it will take time to play it well. So I reached out to Phil M. Courante was not difficult but decided to give it to him because it seems to flow better. We both take performance studio class together and plan to perform this in the fall. It makes it easier for me because I am working on other pieces too.

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Sharing is definitely a good idea.

Generally when these recitals are arranged, participants get frustrated when time comes for recording. Recording a 3 - 5 minutes piece is one thing. Then one can just imagine what recording of a suite lasting for 15 - 30 minutes will take.

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FarmGirl, have fun with your collaboration smile That's another fun thing about sharing a piece, having someone to bounce ideas off of.


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Originally Posted by Ganddalf
There is one argument AGAINST being too sloppy with the definition of a suite when arranging this recital. Already now people have signed up for around 20 suites and if the average duration is 15 minutes we already have five hours music to listen to.
One doesn't have to listen to every piece in the recital. In fact, I doubt many people do.

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One does not need to record every movement of a suite in one sitting, either.


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Maybe, since they all seem to be longer than recitals, we should start calling these events "e-festivals" or "e-marathons" instead of "e-citals". Or maybe some kind of new word like "e-musathon".


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Gandalf, can you please put me down for Sixieme Ordre by Francois Couperin?


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Originally Posted by Morodiene
Gandalf, can you please put me down for Sixieme Ordre by Francois Couperin?


I'll do that. Another very interesting contribution.

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Updated list:

F.Couperin

Sixieme Ordre - Morodiene

J.S.Bach

French Suite no.2 - FarmGirl + Phil M
French Suite No.4 – 1RC
Partita no.1 - Carey
Partita no.3 - Ganddalf
Partita no.6 - Kuanpiano

G.F. Händel

Keyboard suite no. 13 - Cinnamonbear
Keyboard suite no. 15 - Cinnamonbear
Keyboard suite no. 16 - Cinnamonbear

E.Grieg

Peer Gynt Suite no.1 - Damon
Peer Gynt Suite no.2 - SlatterFan
From Holberg's time - jeffreyjones

MacDowell

Woodland Sketches - Sammae

Carl Nielsen

Suite for piano - D.S.F.

C.Debussy

Suite Bergamasque - woodog
Suite pour le Piano - neuralfirings

M.Ravel

Tombeau de Couperin - hreichgott + ScriabinAddict

B.Bartok

Suite Op.14 – Kreisler
Six Romanian Folk Dances - Carey

Deodat de Severac

En Languedoc: Suite pour piano - Tim Adrianson

Alberto Ginastera

Suite de Danzas Criollas - Orange Soda King

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Suite 1 - albumblatter

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Originally Posted by Ganddalf
Updated list:

F.Couperin

Sixieme Ordre - Morodiene

J.S.Bach

French Suite no.2 - FarmGirl + Phil M
French Suite No.4 – 1RC
Partita no.1 - Carey
Partita no.3 - Ganddalf
Partita no.6 - Kuanpiano

G.F. Händel

Keyboard suite no. 13 - Cinnamonbear
Keyboard suite no. 15 - Cinnamonbear
Keyboard suite no. 16 - Cinnamonbear

E.Grieg

Peer Gynt Suite no.1 - Damon
Peer Gynt Suite no.2 - SlatterFan
From Holberg's time - jeffreyjones

MacDowell

Woodland Sketches - Sammae

Carl Nielsen

Suite for piano - D.S.F.

C.Debussy

Suite Bergamasque - woodog
Suite pour le Piano - neuralfirings

M.Ravel

Tombeau de Couperin - hreichgott + ScriabinAddict

B.Bartok

Suite Op.14 – Kreisler
Six Romanian Folk Dances - Carey

Deodat de Severac

En Languedoc: Suite pour piano - Tim Adrianson

Alberto Ginastera

Suite de Danzas Criollas - Orange Soda King

Feinberg

Suite 1 - albumblatter


Yay! Will the music be presented chronologically? It might be cool to hear the Couperin alongside the Tombeau de Couperin (but then anyone could listen to that if they wished after everything's posted).


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I have been thinking about this for a while. In fact, I think it will be a better idea to make a series of "recitals" where each of them contain a combination of older and newer music. For instance Couperin and Tombeau de Couperin (maybe together with another suite to get a "programme" with a duration of one to one and a half hour).

I suggest that we discuss this in detail when we have the total overview of the suites reserved.

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I think the recital could simply be presented as a list of entries, and people could pick and choose what to listen to and when.


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