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Nancy I love the new piano . You are blessed indeed, what an awesome gift !
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I don't have that song either , but I would say if it is in key of C, then C7 is right. Doubt its a typo, just depends on the notes before and after so would need to see the whole piece. I would imagine any errors will be listed on the publishers website as errata.
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Ejay - Wouldn't a C7 chord be using a Bb instead of a B?
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Sorry I meant Cmaj7.. should hit preview before submit.. lol
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Ejay - Hey, who knows? Maybe a C7 might sound good! At the rate a few of us have modified some of the material, we might be "morphing" into Alfred's "Adult Piano and Junior Composer" Book 1 thread!
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Junior Composer It's in the key of C. Here is a link to the last page of the song. HERENow I have a question. I'm assuming that if it was in A minor that the F's would be sharpened in the score and that the song would end on A. Is that correct?
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LOL
I keep going to play the rest of the Entertainer, which isn't in the book.
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Doesn't sound like a typo either. A C would be far too cheerful a chord to end on. What you have, so long as you observe the ritardano and the fermatas is a lovely mellow conclusion, with a lovely bass note to finish off. IMHO anyway.
Oh and yes I think that's right with A minor.
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Ejay - I think you're right about it being a C7 after all! A Bb instead of a B. Looking at the page that Gracie provided, I checked out a fuller version on musicnotes. The original Etta James version is in F. But the nice thing about checking out a song there, is that it allows you to transpose them into other keys. Here it is in C! http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0059678_U7This song is a "jazz number" so when you see so many accidentals in it, as well as chords that are uncommon as the "usual suspects" in the key of C, you shouldn't be surprised! Gracie - You'd think a piece in Am might end in an Am or A note, but that can depend on the composer's whim. Musical rules, like all the others, are made to be broken apparently, and often are! I'm trying to learn Regina Spektor's Samson, she starts it on B, both the chord and note (it's in the key of B major) and ends the song on D# using a G# minor chord. Whatever works, I guess! Ejay - I've done the same thing with the Entertainer ...figuring out the next few notes that aren't in the book! Great Minds!
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Yes I had a look at my guitar version. Different key, but a 7th chord, followed by a 9th at the end.
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Well, it's a "done deal" for me at this point, as I have taken the white-out pen to the sheet and changed it to C, lol.
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Good thing it is not a Chopin piece, or it would be your head that was rolling... LOL
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Emissary, I think it is a Cmaj7. The right hand isn't playing a Bb in the chord. Though the 2nd beat of the last measure the right hand is playing a B and the left hand is playing a Bb. Can someone play and record those last two measures? On another note, I'm about finished with Raisins and Almonds. I actually enjoyed learning it. Wasn't very hard. Just need to work on dynamics. Link to recording. I didn't like the pedal. Will start working on He's Got The Whole World and Entertainer. I don't like either song. I especially don't like banging quarter note chords in the left hand repeatedly. Maybe I'll play the melody in the left and bang chords in the right. LOL
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beasleylou - Hey, you gotta do what'ya gotta do! Besides, composers cheat a little too. I read that Irving Berlin had a piano built, with a lever on it, so he could always play in the key of C and have it sound out in any other key. Why bother with those skinny black keys? I think I need something along those lines ...a giant piano capo!
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Good thing it is not a Chopin piece, or it would be your head that was rolling... LOL LOL BeasleyLou! I changed a classical piece back when I was taking lessons and my teacher just about had fit. LOL I usually improvise something in the piece (and she never minded), but I learned really quick that I had to play my classical pieces just as written.
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That would be a Digital Piano , with transpose function.. hehehehe
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Yeah Ejay, my piano can do just that! But in my mind that's cheating! GracieCat - I believe you're correct on that Cmaj7 in the last measure. But in that last measure, the left hand has a D on the first beat, Db on the second beat and then a C. What gets me, is in that measure that has "and here we are in" contains what looks like a B natural in the bass clef and a Bb in the treble clef played simultaneously! I was under the impression that an "accidental" applied to a measure, included both the bass and treble clef. Is that not true? The problem with a relatively complex song like this, is that 10 people will play it ten different ways with different accidentals added in! It's confusing to compare different versions!
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It's my understanding that an accidental applies only to a note of the same pitch, not to an octave note. (besleylou tells me that whiteout really fixes things!)
Both those measures you noted "looks" like they would sound bad.
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(besleylou tells me that whiteout really fixes things!)
lol... For the record; I generally utilize the white-out only on *some* finger numbers I don't like. This is the first time I recall actually changing a note. B-E-G in that octave just sounds so damned wolfish on my piano. Maybe it's a tuning issue.
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I SURELY stepped into SOMETHING!! The family that I work for is very wonderful to all that works for them. This Ranch is almost 100 years old, and they are noted for taking care of the community around them--and that includes us. I can't tell you how sweet they all are.
Anyway...thank you all for your comments! I need to get the piano tuned and cleaned up, but it's a rockin and that's for sure! I'm not going to keep the knick knacks on there...I just wasnted to do that for effect! (the dollar in my tip glass) And...the picture is me with Barry Manilow! :-)
But, the piano stars MUST be aligned for me...because I now have a PIANO TEACHER!! There is one 40 minutes away, she does it from her hom...and she is fabulous! I have LOTS OF HOMEWORK!!! She showed me what all those symbles mean and what I'm doing wrong with my hands. Very cool1
Anyway, thank you for all your comments...I've got to go back and redo O Sole Mio a bit, Greensleeves, Jericho, and Scarborough Fair.
Thank you again!
Nancy
Piano Obsession Log: Began Piano 12/25/09 on Yamaha starter digital keyboard Playing on circa 1917/18 Chickering Grand Piano since July 2010 Finished Alfred Book 1-August 2010 Started Book 2--August 11, 2010 Alfred Favorites Book
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