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#2223443 - 01/31/14 02:11 AM Students to Save Steinway. Great Story!
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January 30, 2014

Students Hope to Save Their Steinway

LITTLE ROCK, AR -- Little Rock's Central High School is known for its rich history.

Now students are working to preserve one of the oldest items in the building...

For complete news story and video:

  KARK 4 NEWS STORY and VIDEO 




Edited by bkw58 (01/31/14 03:04 PM)
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#2223446 - 01/31/14 02:30 AM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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We had a similar story here at Oakland Tech High School. They have a Steinway B which was sort of the same way. An alumni group originally got an estimate for some huge amount of money to restore it. I looked at the piano and said for the purposes of the school, it could be done for a lot less money, which they were able to raise, and the piano is in use there now. I did not do the work, but I gave them confidence in a better estimate. Too often, a high estimate results in nothing happening, so this was a happy ending.

The Central High piano is an A.
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#2223457 - 01/31/14 03:30 AM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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Great Story - Great Cause

I donated -- Did You?
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#2223604 - 01/31/14 11:44 AM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: BDB]
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Originally Posted By: BDB
We had a similar story here at Oakland Tech High School. They have a Steinway B which was sort of the same way. An alumni group originally got an estimate for some huge amount of money to restore it. I looked at the piano and said for the purposes of the school, it could be done for a lot less money, which they were able to raise, and the piano is in use there now. I did not do the work, but I gave them confidence in a better estimate. Too often, a high estimate results in nothing happening, so this was a happy ending.

The Central High piano is an A.


Thanks, BDB. There are many vintage S&Ss like these collecting dust in old high schools around the country. I hope both of these events are a harbinger of good things to come!
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#2223612 - 01/31/14 12:09 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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In other news, I got a friend whose new wife was bringing in a new piano to donate his old Acrosonic to a first grade class in one of the more poverty-stricken schools here in Oakland.
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#2223615 - 01/31/14 12:18 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Originally Posted By: Minnesota Marty
Great Story - Great Cause

I donated -- Did You?


Thank, Marty.
Yes, a great cause, too!

Some may know that Central High School is a National Historic Site. http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?search=1&entryID=5423

Two of my colleagues are in charge of the rebuilding. A husband-wife team, both worked at the Baldwin factory (grands) here in Conway for many years.

Progress is to be posted here:

https://www.facebook.com/bradshawpianoservice

or here:

http://www.bradshawpianoservice.com/
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#2223616 - 01/31/14 12:18 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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Amazingly, my H.S. had as S&S-D which was retired from the C&A program. This was in a town of 9,000 residents. I played it all through my H.S. years. It had the heaviest action the I have ever played, but the sound was glorious and it was kept in tune. Originally it was on the stage of the 'gymatorium' and then was moved to the choir room so it could get regular use.

About ten years ago, the town built a new H.S., and rather than totally rebuilding the Steinway, the school board could save $2K by scrapping the S&S and buying a 6 footish Yamaha. Bye, bye, Steinway. What a loss. (Had my mother or I known about this, either of us would have happily donated the $2K.)

My H.S. also had a Hammond B-3 with Leslie speakers, but alas, it was discarded too.
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#2223621 - 01/31/14 12:27 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Originally Posted By: Minnesota Marty

About ten years ago, the town built a new H.S., and rather than totally rebuilding the Steinway, the school board could save $2K by scrapping the S&S and buying a 6 footish Yamaha. Bye, bye, Steinway. What a loss. (Had my mother or I known about this, either of us would have happily donated the $2K.)


This kind of thing happens ALL the time. It's terrible, short sighted people that only see the balance sheet.

to paraphrase they know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

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#2223629 - 01/31/14 12:38 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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With any luck, they traded the Steinway for the Yamaha. But that also points out the problem of trying to do too much work on an old piano. A lot of the cosmetics can be forgone in a school situation, and they usually do not need to replace everything that the rebuilder can make a profit on. Even if the best the piano can do is operate at 90% of its potential, that may be enough. (Often that was enough even when the piano was new!)
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#2223630 - 01/31/14 12:42 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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Ya Know - This is the kind of thing that we should support. Just a few bucks from each of us would go a long way to help them meet their goal and get the piano rebuilt.

A Piano World Challenge Awaits !!!!

Send donations to:

Tiger Foundation
P.O. Box 250005
Little Rock, AR 72225

Make a notation that it is for SOS - Save Our Steinway

* * * (Don't forget that your contributions to Piano World also keeps this board operating.)
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#2223662 - 01/31/14 01:36 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: BDB]
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Originally Posted By: BDB
In other news, I got a friend whose new wife was bringing in a new piano to donate his old Acrosonic to a first grade class in one of the more poverty-stricken schools here in Oakland.


This is good news.

I wonder how many States have a program like this:

http://www.playitagain.org/index.html

Play it Again Arkansas

Excerpt:

"Unfortunately, some children can't afford to play in their school band or orchestra. That's why we've created a new initiative called, "Play It Again, Arkansas." We're asking Arkansans to donate their used instruments to schools across the state, so that those schools can provide them to needy students."

The story behind the story is that a good piano salesman for the former Baldwin Dealer actually got the ball rolling on this.
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#2223674 - 01/31/14 02:00 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Originally Posted By: Minnesota Marty
Amazingly, my H.S. had as S&S-D which was retired from the C&A program. This was in a town of 9,000 residents. I played it all through my H.S. years. It had the heaviest action the I have ever played, but the sound was glorious and it was kept in tune. Originally it was on the stage of the 'gymatorium' and then was moved to the choir room so it could get regular use.

About ten years ago, the town built a new H.S., and rather than totally rebuilding the Steinway, the school board could save $2K by scrapping the S&S and buying a 6 footish Yamaha. Bye, bye, Steinway. What a loss. (Had my mother or I known about this, either of us would have happily donated the $2K.)

My H.S. also had a Hammond B-3 with Leslie speakers, but alas, it was discarded too.


Sadly, this mistake is repeated over and again. I would guess there wasn't a pianist on the board? It might not matter. Dealers have trained salespeople. Rebuilders typically do not. This is not a slight to dealers. It is what it is.
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#2223692 - 01/31/14 02:52 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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Originally Posted By: bkw58


This is good news.

I wonder how many States have a program like this:


http://www.harmony-project.org/

Rather than donating to the Friends of the Los Angeles Philharmonic with Deborah Borda's $1,750,000 salary and Dudamel's $1,500,000 salary, I'll give to the Harmony Project.
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#2223698 - 01/31/14 03:06 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: Plowboy]
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Originally Posted By: Plowboy
Originally Posted By: bkw58


This is good news.

I wonder how many States have a program like this:


http://www.harmony-project.org/

Rather than donating to the Friends of the Los Angeles Philharmonic with Deborah Borda's $1,750,000 salary and Dudamel's $1,500,000 salary, I'll give to the Harmony Project.


Yes, an excellent program!
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#2223701 - 01/31/14 03:09 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Originally Posted By: Minnesota Marty
Ya Know - This is the kind of thing that we should support. Just a few bucks from each of us would go a long way to help them meet their goal and get the piano rebuilt.

A Piano World Challenge Awaits !!!!

Send donations to:

Tiger Foundation
P.O. Box 250005
Little Rock, AR 72225

Make a notation that it is for SOS - Save Our Steinway

* * * (Don't forget that your contributions to Piano World also keeps this board operating.)


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(Don't forget that your contributions to Piano World also keeps this board operating.)
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#2223985 - 02/01/14 03:47 AM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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When Lewis and Clark High School (Spokane, WA) was renovated 1998-2001, the powers that be decided to restore the Steinway D from 1911. It had actually been on "loan" to another school since the 1960s, but the school board actually thought it would be a great idea to bring it back home. Interestingly, the 1911 L-C football team donated $500 towards the $1650 purchase price. I have a hard time imagining any current football team donating money to the arts! The school also has a pipe organ in it's auditorium - the school board also paid to have the organ restored and reinstalled.
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#2224021 - 02/01/14 06:10 AM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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The students will make rebuild this piano. Because it's glory deal.
GOD help!
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#2224040 - 02/01/14 08:02 AM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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Wow Paul,

That auditorium is amazing!

Have you played that D?
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#2224188 - 02/01/14 01:28 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: joe80]
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Originally Posted By: joe80
Originally Posted By: Minnesota Marty

About ten years ago, the town built a new H.S., and rather than totally rebuilding the Steinway, the school board could save $2K by scrapping the S&S and buying a 6 footish Yamaha. Bye, bye, Steinway. What a loss. (Had my mother or I known about this, either of us would have happily donated the $2K.)


This kind of thing happens ALL the time. It's terrible, short sighted people that only see the balance sheet.

to paraphrase they know the price of everything and the value of nothing.



A true saying.
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#2224189 - 02/01/14 01:31 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: Paul S.]
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Originally Posted By: Paul S.
When Lewis and Clark High School (Spokane, WA) was renovated 1998-2001, the powers that be decided to restore the Steinway D from 1911. It had actually been on "loan" to another school since the 1960s, but the school board actually thought it would be a great idea to bring it back home. Interestingly, the 1911 L-C football team donated $500 towards the $1650 purchase price. I have a hard time imagining any current football team donating money to the arts! The school also has a pipe organ in it's auditorium - the school board also paid to have the organ restored and reinstalled.


Wonderful story. The football team's donation is extraordinary.
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#2224635 - 02/02/14 01:09 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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The vital message.

That the project is being generated by high school students is the real story.

Students are the future of music. If there is to be one for The Piano, they are it.

Thanks to everyone for the interest.
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#2224642 - 02/02/14 01:25 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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I do hope that some of our members will help out with the student's efforts, their fundraiser, to Save Their Steinway.
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#2236510 - 02/23/14 08:06 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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UPDATE:

Thus far the students of the high school have raised $13,000 toward the restoration of their 1927 S&S-A. Not too bad considering that the fund drive is less than two months old!

According to Julie Keller, the Treasurer of the Tiger Foundation, they have received a number of donations from across the country from donors who have no connection to Little Rock Central High School.

Piano World Members?

The students have even published a YouTube video to help create awareness of their cause.



Hopefully, with continued support, the students will reach their goal of having the funds necessary for a total restoration. The projected costs are $30,000.

It's so great to see high school students taking on a project that doesn't focus on sports or the prom!
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#2239985 - 03/02/14 08:30 AM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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Another good program:

http://mundiproject.org/

The Mundi Project Piano Bank
Salt Lake City, Utah

The Piano Bank program places pianos with individuals and families in places and spaces that need them. Individuals and public spaces in need of a piano can go through the application process by going to the Piano Bank page.

http://mundiproject.org/index/toriess/
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#2240600 - 03/03/14 09:03 AM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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Don't do this to your piano!




Look into this instead:

Adopt-a-piano

Piano Adoption is a free site where you can find a home for your unused piano. Give the gift of music to a family in search of a starter piano or an institution such as a church, school or retirement home in need of a piano. For every piano that is unwanted or no longer used, there may be dozens of potential recipients in your area. Piano Adoption is dedicated to finding a new home for all serviceable pianos before they end up in the local landfill.

Free piano listings by state along with important information for "adopters" to consider before taking on an older instrument.
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#2252312 - 03/26/14 10:30 AM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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Hi Friends,

I just received an update on the restoration of the Little Rock Central High School Steinway. The students have raised enough money to actually begin the rebuilding of the piano.

Great Job!

Here is a photo of the piano being loaded out of the school to be transported to the rebuilders shop:



Below is a link to a video feature from a TV station about the upcoming rebuild with the technician, Mike Anderson, in the shop after the piano arrived:

http://www.arkansasmatters.com/story/d/s...vlES5HLCP7zSJIQ

I find this project to be so inspiring because it has been undertaken by the students themselves, rather than the school board or parents organization. In this day and age, it is rather exciting that the students would raise funds to restore an historic piano.

BTW - The fundraising is still ongoing. (hint-hint)

Cheers,
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#2252365 - 03/26/14 11:56 AM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Originally Posted By: Minnesota Marty
Hi Friends,
...
I find this project to be so inspiring because it has been undertaken by the students themselves, rather than the school board or parents organization. In this day and age, it is rather exciting that the students would raise funds to restore an historic piano.

BTW - The fundraising is still ongoing. (hint-hint)

Cheers,


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Hail To The Old Gold,
Hail To The Black,
Hail Alma Mater,
Naught Does She Lack,
We Love No Other,
So Let Our Motto Be,
Victory, Little Rock Central High !

-LRCSH Alma Mater
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#2313132 - 08/08/14 07:24 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Originally Posted By: Minnesota Marty
Hi Friends,

I just received an update on the restoration of the Little Rock Central High School Steinway. The students have raised enough money to actually begin the rebuilding of the piano.

Great Job!

Here is a photo of the piano being loaded out of the school to be transported to the rebuilders shop:



Below is a link to a video feature from a TV station about the upcoming rebuild with the technician, Mike Anderson, in the shop after the piano arrived:

http://www.arkansasmatters.com/story/d/s...vlES5HLCP7zSJIQ

I find this project to be so inspiring because it has been undertaken by the students themselves, rather than the school board or parents organization. In this day and age, it is rather exciting that the students would raise funds to restore an historic piano.

BTW - The fundraising is still ongoing. (hint-hint)

Cheers,


Update:
I heard today from one of the techs involved in the project that the funds are at about 90%, the case is being refinished, and action work is underway. No date for completion at this time. Still looking for that last 10%. smile
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#2313841 - 08/10/14 02:12 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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Update:

The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reports today that the goal of $37,081.80 has been "netted," by which I assume, "achieved."

New Steinway parts are on order. A "welcome home" concert is planned for the fall of 2015 in the school's auditorium. Thanks to all. smile


Edited by bkw58 (08/10/14 02:19 PM)
Edit Reason: typo
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#2313845 - 08/10/14 02:17 PM Re: Students to Save Steinway. Great Story! [Re: bkw58]
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That sounds great..
Slightly off-topic, is Marty on a holiday?
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