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#2224758 - 02/02/14 05:20 PM Re: Confusion Run Rampant [Re: phantomFive]
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Originally Posted By: phantomFive
Originally Posted By: AJF
Originally Posted By: phantomFive
Originally Posted By: michaelh
A few weeks ago I finally got around to playing the well hyped Hailun. Not impressed. Not sure why people keep saying they're going to take Yamaha and Kawai's lunch, they're nowhere close IMO.

Really? Which pianos did you play? Because when I played their shorter grand, my impression was that it's like a Kawai, with a better dynamic range.


That's a strange impression considering the action and tone of those two pianos is completely different. Goes to show you how subjective our impressions of pianos are and the inherent danger in asking for advice from others on these forums...


Yes, I've been trying to figure out why I felt that way, but I can only harass the poor Hailun dealer so many times before he wants me to buy smile


Wouldn't it be interesting if manufacturers left off their names, or any other identifying marks on their pianos (including designer, country of completion), and consumers were forced to use their ears and fingers to make a choice, rather than pre-conceived notions?! You'd be surprised (or maybe not) at the number of "musicians" and piano buyers who become incensed if you suggest they listen in a blind comparison of instruments. cry
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#2224785 - 02/02/14 06:07 PM Re: Confusion Run Rampant [Re: master88er]
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Originally Posted By: master88er
Wouldn't it be interesting if manufacturers left off their names, or any other identifying marks on their pianos (including designer, country of completion), and consumers were forced to use their ears and fingers to make a choice, rather than pre-conceived notions?! You'd be surprised (or maybe not) at the number of "musicians" and piano buyers who become incensed if you suggest they listen in a blind comparison of instruments. cry

Oh, you evil heretic, you! What are you trying to do -- end life on Earth as we know it?

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#2224794 - 02/02/14 06:24 PM Re: Confusion Run Rampant [Re: master88er]
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Registered: 07/28/13
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Originally Posted By: master88er
Wouldn't it be interesting if manufacturers left off their names, or any other identifying marks on their pianos (including designer, country of completion), and consumers were forced to use their ears and fingers to make a choice, rather than pre-conceived notions?! You'd be surprised (or maybe not) at the number of "musicians" and piano buyers who become incensed if you suggest they listen in a blind comparison of instruments. cry


I believe I would enjoy seeing such a demonstration! :-)

-Michael


Edited by M_albert (02/02/14 06:26 PM)
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#2224829 - 02/02/14 07:54 PM Re: Confusion Run Rampant [Re: master88er]
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Registered: 05/18/06
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Loc: Toronto
Originally Posted By: master88er
Originally Posted By: phantomFive
Originally Posted By: AJF
Originally Posted By: phantomFive
Originally Posted By: michaelh
A few weeks ago I finally got around to playing the well hyped Hailun. Not impressed. Not sure why people keep saying they're going to take Yamaha and Kawai's lunch, they're nowhere close IMO.

Really? Which pianos did you play? Because when I played their shorter grand, my impression was that it's like a Kawai, with a better dynamic range.


That's a strange impression considering the action and tone of those two pianos is completely different. Goes to show you how subjective our impressions of pianos are and the inherent danger in asking for advice from others on these forums...


Yes, I've been trying to figure out why I felt that way, but I can only harass the poor Hailun dealer so many times before he wants me to buy smile


Wouldn't it be interesting if manufacturers left off their names, or any other identifying marks on their pianos (including designer, country of completion), and consumers were forced to use their ears and fingers to make a choice, rather than pre-conceived notions?! You'd be surprised (or maybe not) at the number of "musicians" and piano buyers who become incensed if you suggest they listen in a blind comparison of instruments. cry


Can you imagine if everything in the consumer goods world where like this?
People would be forced to educate themselves and develop a sense of character and a set of personal standards. Yikes! Thank you Coca cola, Prada, and MTV for herding us all into the nice and toasty warmth of your flock...


Edited by AJF (02/02/14 07:56 PM)

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#2224832 - 02/02/14 08:00 PM Re: Confusion Run Rampant [Re: JonathanNV]
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#2224857 - 02/02/14 08:51 PM Re: Confusion Run Rampant [Re: JonathanNV]
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Or in reverse well temperament, I forget which.
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