Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician
SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Ad (Piano Sing)
How to Make Your Piano Sing
Who's Online
121 registered (accordeur, A Guy, anotherscott, anamnesis, 52 invisible), 1842 Guests and 18 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Topic Options
#2231143 - 02/13/14 06:33 PM Roland HP-506 worth ?
SebaGR Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/09/14
Posts: 3
Hi everyone !
First of all thanks for reading my request
I've been looking for information about this all around the forum but didn't come up with anything and since the search engine isn't working too well i've managed with google.
Is Roland hp-506 worth upgrading from an F-120 ?
Since both are SN, I've been wondering about the PHAII vs PHAIV, and heard both good and bad things about IV, and 500's series sound quality.
I've almost decided to buy a roland 500's and pretty much 506 specifically, but i'm still open to recommandations if some of you rly think I should go for something else since I live in a pretty far-away-from-civilization and don't have the time right now to travel and go to a piano showroom wide enough.

Top
(ads) Sweetwater / Roland
Your Next Keyboard is at Sweetwater

Click Here


#2231155 - 02/13/14 07:23 PM Re: Roland HP-506 worth ? [Re: SebaGR]
toddy Online   content
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 1861
Loc: Portugal
The F120 has the Ivory G keyboard,I think,not the PHAII. I think the PHAIV will be very different from Ivory G. It's lighter and more solid in feel. The 506 will have a much better and more powerful sound system, and a bigger range of pianos...but no MIDI in/outs,though - only USB.

So yes; very different, substantially better. This is reflected by its price which is about double that of the F 120.
_________________________
Roland HP 302, Yamaha SY85

Reaper / NI Komplete 9 /Kontakt 5// EWQL Sym Choirs/ Sym Orchestra Silver/ MOR2
Mics: SP B1 & MXL V67g/ Alesis MicTube Preamp/ Xenyx302/ Yamaha HS7s .

"Only a fool is fooled" pv88, All Fools' Day 2014.

Top
#2231732 - 02/14/14 10:24 PM Re: Roland HP-506 worth ? [Re: toddy]
SebaGR Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/09/14
Posts: 3
Originally Posted By: toddy
The F120 has the Ivory G keyboard,I think,not the PHAII. I think the PHAIV will be very different from Ivory G. It's lighter and more solid in feel. The 506 will have a much better and more powerful sound system, and a bigger range of pianos...but no MIDI in/outs,though - only USB.

So yes; very different, substantially better. This is reflected by its price which is about double that of the F 120.


Thank you very much, I've done some more research and will be upgrading to it soon.

Top
#2231853 - 02/15/14 03:02 AM Re: Roland HP-506 worth ? [Re: SebaGR]
Hanseat Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/31/14
Posts: 13
Loc: Germany
You should also consider to buy a HP505, would safe you a lot of money!

The improvements from the 506 are not big!
_________________________
Roland HP504

Top
#2232068 - 02/15/14 01:39 PM Re: Roland HP-506 worth ? [Re: Hanseat]
toddy Online   content
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 1861
Loc: Portugal
Originally Posted By: Hanseat
You should also consider to buy a HP505, would safe you a lot of money!

The improvements from the 506 are not big!


Yes! If you can still get one.
_________________________
Roland HP 302, Yamaha SY85

Reaper / NI Komplete 9 /Kontakt 5// EWQL Sym Choirs/ Sym Orchestra Silver/ MOR2
Mics: SP B1 & MXL V67g/ Alesis MicTube Preamp/ Xenyx302/ Yamaha HS7s .

"Only a fool is fooled" pv88, All Fools' Day 2014.

Top
#2232077 - 02/15/14 01:54 PM Re: Roland HP-506 worth ? [Re: Hanseat]
Enthusiast Offline
Full Member

Registered: 05/04/13
Posts: 247
Loc: UK
Originally Posted By: Hanseat
You should also consider to buy a HP505, would safe you a lot of money!

The improvements from the 506 are not big!


So the new PHAIV action is not a significant improvement?

Top
#2232158 - 02/15/14 04:31 PM Re: Roland HP-506 worth ? [Re: SebaGR]
lolatu Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/01/13
Posts: 560
Loc: UK
It is an improvement, but how much would I willing to pay for that extra felt? Maybe 30. Certainly not 300, which is the price difference between the models.
_________________________
Kawai CA95 / Pianoteq Stage / Sony MDR-7506 / Steinberg UR22
In the loft: Roland FP3 / Tannoy Reveal Active / K&M 18810

Top
#2232198 - 02/15/14 06:05 PM Re: Roland HP-506 worth ? [Re: lolatu]
Enthusiast Offline
Full Member

Registered: 05/04/13
Posts: 247
Loc: UK
Originally Posted By: lolatu
It is an improvement, but how much would I willing to pay for that extra felt? Maybe 30. Certainly not 300, which is the price difference between the models.


The new action is just extra felt? Is the concert version in the higher end models pretty much the same too?

Top
#2232206 - 02/15/14 06:19 PM Re: Roland HP-506 worth ? [Re: SebaGR]
toddy Online   content
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 1861
Loc: Portugal
Dr Popper, who was an early experimenter with the PHAIV said:

The feel [of the PHAIV] is very similar [to the PHAIII] with the exception of maybe being slightly heavier with a softer bottom. It's a VERY good action but the PHAIII is as well.

So a 30 rather than a 300 pound differential sounds more in order. However, the keybaord's not the only difference, of course.....the new Roland HP 506 lacks MIDI sockets wink
_________________________
Roland HP 302, Yamaha SY85

Reaper / NI Komplete 9 /Kontakt 5// EWQL Sym Choirs/ Sym Orchestra Silver/ MOR2
Mics: SP B1 & MXL V67g/ Alesis MicTube Preamp/ Xenyx302/ Yamaha HS7s .

"Only a fool is fooled" pv88, All Fools' Day 2014.

Top
#2232311 - 02/15/14 10:57 PM Re: Roland HP-506 worth ? [Re: SebaGR]
lolatu Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/01/13
Posts: 560
Loc: UK
To be fair, the actual RRP differential is only 50 - about in line with inflation, but a lot of places are discounting the old models a lot more, so you can get 250 - 300 off if you shop around. Stocks of the old models will probabaly be gone soon though. Another thing to consider is that the older models will be worth less on the second hand market, even if they're just as good as the newer ones.
_________________________
Kawai CA95 / Pianoteq Stage / Sony MDR-7506 / Steinberg UR22
In the loft: Roland FP3 / Tannoy Reveal Active / K&M 18810

Top
#2232830 - 02/16/14 09:10 PM Re: Roland HP-506 worth ? [Re: toddy]
SebaGR Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/09/14
Posts: 3
Originally Posted By: toddy
Originally Posted By: Hanseat
You should also consider to buy a HP505, would safe you a lot of money!

The improvements from the 506 are not big!


Yes! If you can still get one.


I would be spending 1800 instead of 2000, and if i would go for an hp-505, i'd ask myself again if it's rly worth to change my F-120 or wait a little longer for next series


Edited by SebaGR (02/17/14 10:32 AM)

Top

Moderator:  Piano World 
What's Hot!!
Christmas Header
Christmas Decorations at Piano World Headquarters 2014
-------------------
The December Free Piano Newsletter
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
Interesting books about the piano, pianists, piano history, biographies, memoirs and more!
(ad) Yamaha CP Music Rest Promo
Yamaha CP Music Rest Promo
(ad) HAILUN Pianos
Hailun Pianos - Click for More
Ad (Seiler/Knabe)
Knabe Pianos
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Sheet Music Plus (125)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
New Topics - Multiple Forums
kawai model SA-8E upright
by EthanHawaii
12/20/14 02:28 PM
Piano Felt
by Modern Conner
12/20/14 01:37 PM
5 adjacent dead keys
by levendig
12/20/14 01:18 PM
Like Someone In Love - a rhythmic approach
by marcuslchoi
12/20/14 12:43 PM
mp11
by mike2014
12/20/14 11:42 AM
Forum Stats
77372 Members
42 Forums
160016 Topics
2349879 Posts

Max Online: 15252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Gift Ideas for Music Lovers!
Find the Perfect Gift for the Music Lovers on your List!
Visit our online store today.

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2014 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission